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Green Intern posted:So if Nighteye's power works by maintaining eye contact (if the translation is to be believed), then Deku should close his eyes while he bounces around the room. Take a page out of Mirio's book and move without seeing. I don't think Deku knows that. It's stated to be a "company secret".
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Green Intern posted:So if Nighteye's power works by maintaining eye contact (if the translation is to be believed), then Deku should close his eyes while he bounces around the room. Take a page out of Mirio's book and move without seeing. I don't think he has to maintain eye contact. The way I understood it is he touches someone and makes eye contact (maybe at the same time? Not clear on this) and then he can predict their movement for up to one hour.
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Feb 16, 2017 14:54
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Green Intern posted:So if Nighteye's power works by maintaining eye contact (if the translation is to be believed), then Deku should close his eyes while he bounces around the room. Take a page out of Mirio's book and move without seeing. Nighteye's power is foresight though. That means he sees things before they happen, not during it. So he's gonna, what, foresee what Deku's gonna do and then break eye contact and go "oh jeepers crumpets I forgot what it was"?
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Feb 16, 2017 15:29
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Yeah all he needs to do is touch someone and make eye contact and he knows all their actions for the next hour. Breaking eye contact is meaningless. It seems like he can't read lips though. So the way to beat him is by saying something he doesn't expect. Speaking of foresight...this Quirk is definitely going to get him killed by Overhaul, right? The guy who kills you instantly if you touch him? 
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Feb 16, 2017 16:27
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Huh, I knew it was generally following the styles and arcs of American comics, but I didn't put the watchmen and DoS thing together. That's really neat, and as you said, perfectly placed.
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Vengarr posted:Yeah all he needs to do is touch someone and make eye contact and he knows all their actions for the next hour. Breaking eye contact is meaningless. Hes going to make sir laugh and that lets him drop his guard for a sec
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Feb 16, 2017 16:35
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I don't think we are ever gonna see a power that can be so ridiculously hard countered by Aizawa 
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Feb 16, 2017 16:37
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Sir Nighteye is going to touch an enemy and see his own imminent and unavoidable death eventually.
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Feb 16, 2017 16:42
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Vengarr posted:It seems like he can't read lips though. So the way to beat him is by saying something he doesn't expect. That's why he loves humor so much. The constant subversion of expectations is quite refreshing to him.
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Feb 16, 2017 16:48
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bondster posted:I don't think we are ever gonna see a power that can be so ridiculously hard countered by Aizawa Tsuyu already exists, though?????
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Feb 16, 2017 17:56
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Kuroyama posted:That's why he loves humor so much. The constant subversion of expectations is quite refreshing to him.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:21
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Does Nighteye see the future for 1 hour, or is he able to predict what you'll do for 1 hour?
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Feb 16, 2017 21:47
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Gyges posted:Does Nighteye see the future for 1 hour, or is he able to predict what you'll do for 1 hour? Becomes the ultimate tsukkomi
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Feb 16, 2017 21:48
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I guess Sir didn't become a 3-star hunter by luck.
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Feb 16, 2017 22:18
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Gyges posted:Does Nighteye see the future for 1 hour, or is he able to predict what you'll do for 1 hour? Probably the latter.
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Feb 17, 2017 01:58
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Dragonatrix posted:Tsuyu already exists, though????? Aizawa doesnt effect people with "constant" abilities. She cant turn off the frog.
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Feb 17, 2017 02:11
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Nighteye's power is actually kind of bad in terms of pure combat. He has to touch you to predict your actions. Other people have Quirks that can kill you with a touch, not to mention the people who can attack from a distance. It matches up decently against defense-oriented people like Kirishima, I guess. It has other uses, though. It seems very useful for information-gathering. Disguise yourself, brush against someone you're suspicious of in a crowded street, and you can find out where they'll go and what they'll do in the next hour
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Feb 17, 2017 02:29
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He could easily tail someone by knowing what direction they choose to go, but he doesn't seem to be a precog who knows one hour of your future. Still good for info gathering and most fights though. Also pretty sweet if he can pull it off for a hostage negotiation or other type of police stand off.
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Silver2195 posted:Nighteye's power is actually kind of bad in terms of pure combat. Dude is Batman with super-foresight. He'll be fine in combat.
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Feb 17, 2017 05:00
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Silver2195 posted:It seems very useful for information-gathering. Disguise yourself, brush against someone you're suspicious of in a crowded street, and you can find out where they'll go and what they'll do in the next hour unless he needs to maintain eye contact. it wasn't very clear on that point imo
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Feb 17, 2017 05:31
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KoB posted:Aizawa doesnt effect people with "constant" abilities. That is the point, yes, because that means his power is not a hard counter to it.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:33
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Dragonatrix posted:That is the point, yes, because that means his power is not a hard counter to it. Foresight is an activated quirk, Aizawa can totally block that. He can't block physical mutations like Tsuyu's, but he WOULD be able to block her camouflage.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:37
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Dragonatrix posted:That is the point, yes, because that means his power is not a hard counter to it. You read the first post wrong then. They were saying Nighteye wouldn't be able to do anything against Aizawa since his power requires eye contact to activate, and eye contact is how Aizawa's power nullification ability works.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:39
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trucutru posted:Batman with super-foresight That's not only redundant, it's repetitive.
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Feb 17, 2017 07:44
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translation is not necessarily perfect heres how i read it he touches you and looks in your eyes (no homo) after that, he can predict what you're going to do with 100% accuracy (are you going to jump? he predicts that. attack him? he predicts that too) he doesn't see the future as such, like he doesn't know in advance how you're going to react to something you haven't done/seen yet, but he knows what you're going to do next the trick to beating him would be to respond to something he did faster than he can react to you reacting to him, or just overwhelming him so completely that he has nowhere to go (which is what deku is trying to do)
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Feb 17, 2017 09:18
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Theoretically you could also start throwing/shooting things off other things to hit him with a ricochet. Probably depends on the relative strength of your trigonometric prowess verses his though.
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Feb 17, 2017 15:26
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logger posted:You read the first post wrong then. Yeah, I did. I just read it as a sarcastic "when are we going to get a power that Aizawa can't void" somehow. Speaking of reading things maybe wrong, I found it interesting that Nighteye mentioned he already has 2 sidekicks and 1 intern. Mirio is the intern and Bubble Girl is one of the sidekicks, but that leaves someone left that we haven't met here that could be useful in this little test or sometime immediately afterwards. That could just be Mangastream being, well, Mangastream and he was referring to himself of course, since he's All Might's former sidekick but I dunno for sure,
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Feb 17, 2017 16:07
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Gyges posted:Theoretically you could also start throwing/shooting things off other things to hit him with a ricochet. Probably depends on the relative strength of your trigonometric prowess verses his though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnd9dR8tnc
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Feb 17, 2017 16:43
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He could also use his foresight to perfectly co-ordinate his movements with those of an ally. Or more than one ally if he's able to use the quirk "against" multiple people at a time.
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I think that's a critical point. He can see what Deku is going to do, but can he see how the environment is going to change as a result? I'm betting we're going for victory by environmental kill here.
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Feb 18, 2017 00:21
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Also, its great if he can see what Deku is going to do, but if Deku can move fast enough, what can he really do to stop it?
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Feb 18, 2017 00:32
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I want to get a super limited edition All Might tapestry
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Feb 18, 2017 01:20
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Obviously deku just needs to go so fast that not even he can predict where he will land
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Feb 18, 2017 03:27
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The chapter ends with him accidentally careening out the window and passing because sir thought it was funny as heck
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Feb 18, 2017 03:28
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Sir already gave him the answer right from the beginning. "I care not what happens to this room". So collapse the floor under him Deku.
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Futaba Anzu posted:The chapter ends with him accidentally careening out the window and passing because sir thought it was funny as heck Edit FA has the chapter up, if anyone else is like me and forgot to check until just now. 
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Feb 18, 2017 03:45
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That would be good but I think this is Sir using his ability to push Deku to his limits to see why All Might chose him.
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Feb 18, 2017 03:46
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I would like to see Sir laugh, because I think it'd be pretty glorious -- or potentially terrifying.
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Feb 18, 2017 05:45
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It's extremely difficult to "out speed" a precog, as things like reaction speed effectively don't matter. You've got to out speed the nerve impulses themselves. I really really doubt Deku can manage that sort of speed. All Might in his prime very probably couldn't do it.
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All Might could have done it easily. I mean, he ran across the country in minutes right before the fight where he lost his powers for good, among other ridiculous feats of speed we've seen from him. Human reaction time, or even human movement in advance, can't outspeed that.
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