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I tried to look into a thread about the Manchester bombings but oooh boy nope. So have some Game of Thrones instead, from 'Game of Thrones' author George R.R. Martin compares Trump to King Joffrey quote:Martin just lost at least one loyal fan of his Game of Thrones series. quote:To: Ciaphas Cain quote:To: Ciaphas Cain   Truly, the resemblance is striking. quote:To: All quote:To: Ciaphas Cain )?quote:To: Ciaphas Cain quote:
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Fathis Munk posted:Buttcrack Obunghole Eh, bonus points for getting in both names, but I have to deduct some for being derivative. Not going on my top list of Freeper Obama-names.
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May 26, 2017 11:22
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Fathis Munk posted:To: Ciaphas Cain What loving world does this retard live in?
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May 26, 2017 15:46
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Game of Thrones is a very liberal work, and GRRM is extremely liberal. The lack of heroes is a clue. LoTR is a (British) conservative work where there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys are very pure and good, and the bad guys are completely bad. GoT spends a lot of time exploring the fact that most heroes are fuckups and good intentions are no guarantee of good outcome. Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead.
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May 26, 2017 15:47
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SocketWrench posted:What loving world does this retard live in? Hey, since Obama's dad was technically already married to another woman when he married Obama's mother (the marriage was bigamous), Obama is indeed technically a bastard by GoT rules.
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May 26, 2017 15:49
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BarbarianElephant posted:Game of Thrones is a very liberal work, and GRRM is extremely liberal. The lack of heroes is a clue. LoTR is a (British) conservative work where there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys are very pure and good, and the bad guys are completely bad. GoT spends a lot of time exploring the fact that most heroes are fuckups and good intentions are no guarantee of good outcome. Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead. They don't care, they read what they want into things they like and claim them for themselves, even when (or perhaps especially) that twists the meaning around. Look at all the right wingers who claim Captain America, despite the fact that the character is a New Deal Democrat.
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May 26, 2017 15:57
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BarbarianElephant posted:Game of Thrones is a very liberal work, and GRRM is extremely liberal. The lack of heroes is a clue. LoTR is a (British) conservative work where there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys are very pure and good, and the bad guys are completely bad. GoT spends a lot of time exploring the fact that most heroes are fuckups and good intentions are no guarantee of good outcome. Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead. Also very realistic diarrhea scenes, unlike LOTR.
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May 26, 2017 16:12
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Mods, please change my name to Buttcrack Obunghole
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May 26, 2017 16:14
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BarbarianElephant posted:Game of Thrones is a very liberal work, and GRRM is extremely liberal. The lack of heroes is a clue. LoTR is a (British) conservative work where there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys are very pure and good, and the bad guys are completely bad. GoT spends a lot of time exploring the fact that most heroes are fuckups and good intentions are no guarantee of good outcome. Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead. Things I like are good, all good things are conservative, asoif is therefore conservative, q.e.d.
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May 26, 2017 16:30
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BarbarianElephant posted:Game of Thrones is a very liberal work, and GRRM is extremely liberal. The lack of heroes is a clue. LoTR is a (British) conservative work where there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys are very pure and good, and the bad guys are completely bad. GoT spends a lot of time exploring the fact that most heroes are fuckups and good intentions are no guarantee of good outcome. Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead. The real thing that baffles me about conservative readings of GRRM is that the books also have some of the strongest anti-war messaging I've ever seen in a fantasy series that is mostly about war. The nobility boasts about heroic stuff during their strategy meetings, and then it's all long lingering descriptions about how thoroughly hosed Westeros is because of the raiding and fighting that was ordered. There's even some off-handed comment about how the Iron Throne can just give out noble titles for relatively small favors because there's just so many minor houses that were wiped out, dispossessed, or forced to flee. Though to be fair, most of Freep (like most of people) probably only watch the show in which war is about sexy men doing cool poses to fight real good.
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May 26, 2017 16:49
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There is no such thing as an anti war story
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May 26, 2017 16:56
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:There is no such thing as an anti war story Nah
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May 26, 2017 16:58
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Lightning Lord posted:They don't care, they read what they want into things they like and claim them for themselves, even when (or perhaps especially) that twists the meaning around. Look at all the right wingers who claim Captain America, despite the fact that the character is a New Deal Democrat. 
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May 26, 2017 17:21
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Fathis Munk posted:Which one though, the drunk, the homosexual or the child murderer? Not sure they have thought this through. This guy doesn't know that the Battle at Thermopylae ended with the Spartans being slaughtered by thousands of pissed-off Persians, does he? Including King Leonidas.
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May 26, 2017 17:27
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Alter Ego posted:This guy doesn't know that the Battle at Thermopylae ended with the Spartans being slaughtered by thousands of pissed-off Persians, does he? Including King Leonidas. Their knowledge of Thermopylae begins and ends with the movie version of 300.
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May 26, 2017 17:36
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:There is no such thing as an anti war story Challenge accepted, do "All quiet on the western front" Deport The Irish posted:The real thing that baffles me about conservative readings of GRRM is that the books also have some of the strongest anti-war messaging I've ever seen in a fantasy series that is mostly about war. The nobility boasts about heroic stuff during their strategy meetings, and then it's all long lingering descriptions about how thoroughly hosed Westeros is because of the raiding and fighting that was ordered. There's even some off-handed comment about how the Iron Throne can just give out noble titles for relatively small favors because there's just so many minor houses that were wiped out, dispossessed, or forced to flee. They support anti-war as long as it's conservative anti-war. GRRM was a conservative in their minds, so his anti-war rhetoric was good. Let me draw you a chart
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May 26, 2017 17:37
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Their knowledge of Thermopylae begins and ends with the movie version of 300. But that movie ended with Leonidas and the Spartans getting brutally slaughtered 
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May 26, 2017 17:41
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Reading up on the dude behind this's politics and it makes sense.
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May 26, 2017 17:42
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SocketWrench posted:What loving world does this retard live in? Oh hey! Welcome to Freep World. Remember the President so even-tempered a sketch show could have a long running skit about him needing to have a 'Presidential Anger Translator'. Turns out he was actually a rage-fueled berserker who launched into furious public denuciations of anyone who opposed him in the slightest. You remember that now right?
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May 26, 2017 17:49
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I read an article somewhere that claimed the new cap story was an ironic punishment for everyone who complained about Sam Wilson. Like "Ok, you can have your white Captain America back, but guess what? He's actually a Nazi!  "I got the impression that the article writer didn't really understand how white nationalists think.
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May 26, 2017 17:50
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Their knowledge of Thermopylae begins and ends with the movie version of 300. They all die in the movie too.
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May 26, 2017 17:50
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Yeah but they die in a  way as true warriors buying time for their country so that the country can kick the enemy's rear end.
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May 26, 2017 18:02
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I was paraphrasing françois truffaut. Specifically he talks about movies. People see the bombastic combat scenes and don't account for the context the movie is presenting. If zootopia can be about how liberals are the real racists then some non anti war message can be tortured out of All Quiet
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May 26, 2017 18:03
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:non anti war message can be tortured out of All Quiet I don't think even freep could reach the heights (depths?) of idiocy required
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May 26, 2017 18:09
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Keeshhound posted:I read an article somewhere that claimed the new cap story was an ironic punishment for everyone who complained about Sam Wilson. I think you're referring to this slate piece https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slat...omplicated.html
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May 26, 2017 18:16
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Fathis Munk posted:Yeah but they die in a When in reality the Spartan army was just a lovely roadblock and the Athenian navy did most of the real work.
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May 26, 2017 18:19
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Alter Ego posted:But that movie ended with Leonidas and the Spartans getting brutally slaughtered Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They all die in the movie too. As Fathis Munk points out, they died in a defiant, triumphant way and it's clear that the sissy homo Persians are totally screwed as a consequence, with the epilogue scene conveniently leaving out what happened to any number of poleis after the battle.
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May 26, 2017 18:28
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dex_sda posted:I don't think even freep could reach the heights (depths?) of idiocy required We just need to keep the draft age high so we send competent men instead of clueless kids into war
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May 26, 2017 18:28
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dex_sda posted:I don't think even freep could reach the heights (depths?) of idiocy required The reason the main character dies in the end is because he went lib and tried to play with butterflies. Done Actually thinking back on it the first time I saw the movie it was with my mother and it was her first aswell. She was all caught up when he was reaching for it and broke into tears when he got shot SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 19:58
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That reminds me the end of glory gets me to tear up every time. But the black guys failed their charge so you see it's
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May 26, 2017 20:18
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:That reminds me the end of glory gets me to tear up every time. But the black guys failed their charge so you see it's Ungrateful black extremists backed by the (((federal government))) fail in their attempt to crush the glorious cause of Southern independence, there now I feel filthy typing it out.
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May 26, 2017 20:40
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Ambitious Spider posted:I think you're referring to this slate piece It wasn't, actually, but they're both similar enough in structure and argument that now I'm wondering who plagerized who.
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May 26, 2017 20:41
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:That reminds me the end of glory gets me to tear up every time. But the black guys failed their charge so you see it's Glory was my first introduction to a war movie where the heroes/main cast didn't win. It baffled me at first when the Confederate flag was being raised at the end and then when it hit I teared up. I got another video on recommendation from a friend called After Glory which tells the rest of the 54th's story and it's really goddamned heroic. One battle they get called up to cover the breaking union lines as they fall back and to bolster his men the Colonel advances his color bearers and guards well ahead of the regiment
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May 26, 2017 23:24
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BarbarianElephant posted:Dany, in particular, is an analogy for US meddling in the Middle East - she goes in trying to fix everything messed up in the culture of Essos, but it's too embedded to really excise, and just ends up corrupting her instead. So GRRM is really dumb?
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May 27, 2017 07:09
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Dershowitz: Kushner Meeting Russians, Even Politically Coordinating With Russians "Just Not A Crime"Alan Dershowitz posted:Let's assume that the Trump campaign promised: 'If you help us get elected, we'll drop the sanctions.' quote:To: Helicondelta  quote:To: Helicondelta But Clinton! quote:To: Helicondelta Obama! quote:To: Defiant quote:To: Helicondelta Yep it's all lost to history, we just know that Reagan's staff met with Iran several times and they certainly didn't make any secret deals with the Iranian Government after he was elected. quote:To: Defiant quote:To: Helicondelta quote:To: Darksheare There is a main thread on Kushnergate but it's pretty much wall-to-wall "Fake News!" so I'll pass on it.
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May 27, 2017 07:13
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No negative war story ever? Very cool, very edgy; my mind is expanded.
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May 27, 2017 07:14
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Jagged Jim posted:To: Darksheare Remember during this last election when that was enough to declare someone guilty/lying and demand they be lynched?
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May 27, 2017 09:14
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Gary Cohn Relaunches War on Coal: Fuel from America’s Heartland ‘Doesn’t Make Much Sense Anymore’ "Jive-anka"? Where the hell does that come from? quote:To: Altura Ct. He can contradict himself just fine, thank you very much!  quote:To: Paladin2 Unironically yes. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. You mean like if it didn't have massive subsidizes and tax breaks? quote:To: Altura Ct.  quote:To: Paladin2 quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. Mostly because the cost of continuing to use coal is less than retrofitting 40% of the nation's power plants to run on gas but yes. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct.  quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. quote:To: Altura Ct. It is still a mystery. quote:To: Altura Ct.
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May 27, 2017 12:46
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Jagged Jim posted:To: Altura Ct. 
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You have to wonder if they ever notice how much they sound like they're running a dictatorship. Shame someone would get banned from freep for reposting these things in the future when they're saying all this stuff they loved Trump for is nazi-esque when the next dem prez is in office.
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