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Javid posted:I mainly deal with softwoods like fir and cedar. Current workflow is plane, rout corners, single pass with an orbital at 100, then stain & urethane, or paint. Having never used a thickness sander before, I would assume that the main difference will be that a thickness sander is going to get a more consistent thickness, but all the sanding lines will be going the same way. If thats not an issue, and you are sanding to your final grit anyway, why not?
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The Dewalt planer even at the higher speed leaves a surface that is pretty much finish ready. You need dust collection for it, but it's an incredible bang/buck.
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E: ^ this is also very true.Javid posted:I mainly deal with softwoods like fir and cedar. Current workflow is plane, rout corners, single pass with an orbital at 100, then stain & urethane, or paint. Well in that case it's probably exactly what you're looking for. Grizzly even makes a small drum sander that is relatively inexpensive, particularly if you're only sending boards through and don't need width for entire face frames/etc. E: http://www.grizzly.com/products/12-Baby-Drum-Sander/G0459 Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 05:48 on May 27, 2017 |
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May 27, 2017 05:45
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Phone posted:The Dewalt planer even at the higher speed leaves a surface that is pretty much finish ready. You need dust collection for it, but it's an incredible bang/buck. The only hangup I have with finishing directly off the planer (which is the one you're thinking of) is that home depot leaves staples and poo poo in these boards and they will, whenever I miss pulling one, gently caress up the blades and give me these big raised streaks down every board that have to be sanded out. I can't have it down for the week+ the local sharpening place takes right now, so I have to deal with that for the immediate future. My first choice would be "buy lumber that isn't dogshit" but I don't hold the purse strings for this operation. Owner will buy tools I ask for but not take a day out of production to visit every lumber yard around here and find a better source than HD, and it continually infuriates me. That sander looks almost exactly like what I was imagining, thanks.
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The knives in the dewalt can shift left to right, so if you get a knick in all three blades you can shift them to offset the knick and make it disappear from the wood. Also, the knives are disposable so what are you doing sending them to s sharpening place? Chuck em out and put new ones in. Or get two sets of blades so you have a spare if you do insist on sending them for sharpening.
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May 27, 2017 13:45
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Javid posted:I mainly deal with softwoods like fir and cedar. Current workflow is plane, rout corners, single pass with an orbital at 100, then stain & urethane, or paint. To my experience those softwoods tend to have sappy residue that would gum up a belt sander PDQ. I'd go with the planer options
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A sharpening costs $39 for the set. Cheapest I could find them when I looked originally (a year ago) was $80ish. NOW I'm seeing them for $46 on amazon which is a much better deal. The shifting thing I didn't know so I'll try that next.
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quote:Why not raise prices? Boo. So mad at myself for not setting an alarm for Thursday.
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Those things were like $135. I totally don't get the appeal. Unless it's like a woodworker bling status symbol thing. edit: went looking for a review and the first one I found with a quick google is here. I'll stick with my cheap stuff. Tres Burritos fucked around with this message at 21:23 on May 27, 2017 |
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May 27, 2017 21:14
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I love the people who are near militant about not having nice things. Yes they are expensive, they are also nice, some people can afford and want nice things. The fact that they do this, and then talk about it, is not a personal affront or poor-shaming. I'm not saying you are doing this, tres burritos, but it is really common in many hobbies and it is especially prevalent in the woodworking world.
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Ahhh naw, I just looked at the price and was like, "Am I missing something here?" but it just does what it says on the box and looks real nice. Which is cool, but I like to stay at a certain spot on the bang/buck curve. I also don't think I can handle the worry factor that comes with super nice tools like that. I get paranoid about the Veritas planes I bought getting roughed up whereas it's pretty nice to throw around a cheap stanley plane and not fret. However when you do gently caress up the little parts on Veritas planes they generally have replacement parts in stock and they ship pretty quick. (Ask me about dropping a smoothing plane onto a concrete floor). edit: also I hosed up the chipbreaker on the jointer Tres Burritos fucked around with this message at 22:03 on May 27, 2017 |
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I made a bench that is somewhat like the one that Tommy Mac built a while back, less the neat coves because doing coves on the table saw is mind bending to me and doesn't fit the look of the room this is going in. Every angle is compound 10/10 which made it kind of challenging to clamp. Fun two day project, though. I forgot how much I like working with cherry, just put it together, sand to 220, and feed oil until it looks right. 
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I'm fixing up my great granddad's no.2 plane and man is it tiny and awkward to hold.
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Long grain shenanigans- One of the canes i'd made for my elderly dad had the head break- perils of short grain construction, even if it is a dense hardwood (jatoba). I'd thought it was remedied by using a long drywall screw right through the handle as a reinforcement. That was not fixable since there's no good way to extract a 3 1/2" screw. i had a head piece from another one I'd made at the same time so I decided to glue it to the original shaft. Because of the crook in the shaft, i was able to cheat a long grain scarf-type joint. But I didn't like the way the grain matched up, even though it was the same color, so I decided to accentuate the difference with a splice of striped maple.  I was able to get the cut using a miter saw, but, gluing up something on a slant like that is easier visualized than done. So creative clampery was required. I glued and clamped one joint at a time, and each one failed the first time due to the pieces slipping out of position and me having to reset them (I think that compromises the strength even if the glue is still sticky) Finally got the desired glue-ups, tested for strength and durability, and finished up with minwax stain/sealer.  
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coathat posted:I'm fixing up my great granddad's no.2 plane and man is it tiny and awkward to hold. Is it an old Stanley? Those sell for silly money and I can't imagine a real world use for one.
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It's a Marsh so I figure it's nowhere near as valuable. Plus it's like one of like 5 things that survived the house fire they had in the 50s.
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I wrote a blog post of mini-reviews of the various woodworking media I follow or have read (books, podcasts, magazines, videos, blogs). Don't worry, Chris Schwarz doesn't turn up till like 1/3 of the way through the article. Happy for suggestions of other stuff to read if anyone has any.
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I got my Delta table saw set up this weekend. I bought a Leecraft zero-clearance insert for it, and man that thing is excellent. Six screws that fit very tightly into their screwholes for fine adjustment of level and fitment and I got it perfectly snug. It's much better than the OEM steel non-zero-clearance insert the table came with, in terms of fitment. Then I installed a Microjig MJ Splitter setup, since my table didn't come with a splitter or riving knife and the aftermarket options for those seem to be pretty crap. I got the blue ones to fit my regular 1/8" kerf saw blades - the saw came with one and I had two others, so I don't think I'll be needing to buy a narrow-kerf blade any time soon (if I do, I'll need another ZCI in order to set it up for the MJ Splitters). The template thingy the splitter came with worked pretty well, the instructions weren't very hard to follow, took me about an hour to do it mostly because I was being really ginger and careful since I'm not familiar with my saw yet. I did shatter the included drill bit on the last hole I was drilling through the ZCI, because I hit a metal bracket down inside the saw with the tip. No important damage was done, but I should have put a block of wood under the ZCI before drilling. Has anyone else used these? Microjig really pushes their Grr-Ripper thing a lot but my impression is that it's not really a safe thing to use, because it requires you to pass your hand and arm over the moving blade. Even with that big block between you and the blade for safety, after you pass over the blade you're pushing down and forward with your bare forearm over the blade. I think I'm gonna stick with push sticks and a featherboard. Seem reasonable? Oh yeah I also got a magnetic featherboard, the Magswitch. It's really cool, seems very secure on my cast iron table. Now I just need some wood and a first project. I've got longer-term plans for a TV stand/cabinet thing, some shelves, my wife says I should build us a queen-sized bed to replace our IKEA full-size, but I want to start with something a bit smaller and that will let me learn some joinery skills. Maybe a lidded box or a cutting board or something? e. photos!  DSC_0005.jpg DSC_0004.jpg DSC_0006.jpgLeperflesh fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Magswitch featherboards are amazing. I never used my miter slot style featherboard, but I'll use the magswitch anytime it seems helpful. Easily one of my favorite tablesaw accessories. The GRR-rip is mostly dumb. They make really good pushblocks for the router table and jointer called the GRR-rip smart hook (something like that, anyways), but I agree about them not having a place on the tablesaw. e: Tim Thomas posted:I made a bench that is somewhat like the one that Tommy Mac built a while back, less the neat coves because doing coves on the table saw is mind bending to me and doesn't fit the look of the room this is going in. Every angle is compound 10/10 which made it kind of challenging to clamp. Fun two day project, though. That looks really nice and clean. Cherry is so nice to work with. Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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ColdPie posted:I wrote a blog post of mini-reviews of the various woodworking media I follow or have read (books, podcasts, magazines, videos, blogs). Don't worry, Chris Schwarz doesn't turn up till like 1/3 of the way through the article. This is a good post and should be in the op. My only suggestion would be including this book
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Leperflesh posted:I got my Delta table saw set up this weekend. I bought a Leecraft zero-clearance insert for it, and man that thing is excellent. Six screws that fit very tightly into their screwholes for fine adjustment of level and fitment and I got it perfectly snug. It's much better than the OEM steel non-zero-clearance insert the table came with, in terms of fitment. Kick rear end saw. I've never installed a splitter but you are absolutely dead wrong about the GRrrrrrrr-ipper. I honestly dont use my table saw without it. My opinion is everyone should use one.
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GEMorris posted:This is a good post and should be in the op. I have been wanting to read that book!
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In case you haven't read today's blog post on Lost Art Press, Schwarz talks about this article which is definitely worth a read.
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Hypnolobster posted:The GRR-rip is mostly dumb. They make really good pushblocks for the router table and jointer called the GRR-rip smart hook (something like that, anyways), but I agree about them not having a place on the tablesaw. mds2 posted:you are absolutely dead wrong about the GRrrrrrrr-ipper. I honestly dont use my table saw without it. My opinion is everyone should use one. The two of you must fight to the death so I can decide what to do
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I finally got to go the Lie-Nielsen showroom today, highly recommend it if you're ever in the area.
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I'm kinda not liking the dovetail saw I've got and I've been toying with the idea of making a frame saw. Bad idea? If not, is there a recommended place to buy blades?
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Leperflesh posted:The two of you must fight to the death so I can decide what to do With tablesaw safety accessories as weapons? I've definitely got the reach advantage.
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Long shot, but does anyone have preferred lumber yards in the Boston-Nashua area? Looking for KDAT 5/4x6 radius-edged decking, and figured I'd ask here before blindly calling everyone. The few places I've used before, I got blank looks when asking about dried treated lumber. I realize it's not about actual woodworking, maybe there's no crossover between hardwood suppliers and what I'm looking for but I figure you guys sometimes have to buy pleb stuff like regular ol' lumber.
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uwaeve posted:Long shot, but does anyone have preferred lumber yards in the Boston-Nashua area? Looking for KDAT 5/4x6 radius-edged decking, and figured I'd ask here before blindly calling everyone. The few places I've used before, I got blank looks when asking about dried treated lumber. I have zero knowledge about your specific area, but try contacting construction supply stores instead of lumberyards.
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Hypnolobster posted:With tablesaw safety accessories as weapons? I've definitely got the reach advantage. Ahem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AalvZKdQzSQ
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GEMorris posted:In case you haven't read today's blog post on Lost Art Press, Schwarz talks about this article which is definitely worth a read. Here they are, words that perfectly capture why it's impossible to read Lost Art Press and not want to slap them upside their heads: quote:Both Underhill and Schwartz come at woodworking from a perspective that goes beyond the usual technical detail. To them craft is a moral issue, even a political issue. quote:Since crafts people have to make a living building something like a chair a week, if they are quick, that sort of production will never be democratically available. It is cost prohibitive for all but the wealthy, and always will be. Last Art Press: well-off people making expensive products for other well-off people, assigning superior moral value to a time that was objectively worse and more exploitative than what we have today. edit: another favourite part: quote:The translation captures the eighteenth-century flavor of Roubo’s prose, but with bracketed explanations when the precise translation of the French has a more generally accepted technical term in the modern American woodworker’s parlance (the pins and tails of a dovetail joint, for instance). Literal CliffsNotes annotations to make the book comprehensible. Who the gently caress is this book for? JFC. Trabant fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Trabant posted:Who the gently caress is this book for? JFC. People who like to read nicely made books, and also like to make things from wood?  I'm pretty sure Jesus doesn't need a book on woodworking.
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Trabant posted:Literal CliffsNotes annotations to make the book comprehensible. Who the gently caress is this book for? JFC. Right, so you've not read it. You're an idiot. The time it would take to explain to you why you are an idiot and that you lack any reading comprehension skills at all is simply not worth the expenditure.
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Ah, found the person pretentious enough to buy a book that needs translations of translations!
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you guys ever notice that sometimes people on the internet argue about things that don't matter
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Trabant posted:Ah, found the person pretentious enough to buy a book that needs translations of translations! Wait, do you like hate the concept of knowledge or something?
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GEMorris posted:Wait, do you like hate the concept of knowledge or something? more importantly, where's Wormil to weigh in on this? He hasn't posted for months it seems, and I'm a bit worried about him.
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Roctor posted:you guys ever notice that sometimes people on the internet argue about things that don't matter no they don't
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