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Arcsquad12 posted:I guess It's more of a mix. GW sales go in waves with each new army release. That's where they make most of their money with new adopters, but between releases it's more the older grogs who keep them afloat. The kids either move onto other fads or become the grogs Timmy turns 12 every day. Sometimes multiple times per day. It actually benefits the company if after he drops his cash he never comes back until he can afford to drop multiple hundreds per visit again. The staffing cost of dealing with a grog looking to get a few paints and maybe a box of that new unit once every few weeks vs introducing some new Timmy to whichever game caught his eye and selling him the starter box, tools, paints, glue and maybe a book is actually strongly in favour of eternal Timmy.
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Monocled Falcon posted:Okay, so I know I'm jumping into a derail that was winding down, but it crystallized something in my mind that's been kicking around for a while. gently caress off
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Started reading Eisenhorn. Some good one liners so far.
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I'm almost done with The Guns of Tanith, are all of the remaining 8 books in the series in the one-campaign-per-book format with a few ancillary developments, or is there a multiple-book-spanning arc coming anytime soon that builds a bigger story?
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Most tend to be one offs. That being said there is somewhat of an arcing plot between honour guard and sabbat martyr.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:19
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Finished the Space Shark book. Not sure I remember anything about it.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm almost done with The Guns of Tanith, are all of the remaining 8 books in the series in the one-campaign-per-book format with a few ancillary developments, or is there a multiple-book-spanning arc coming anytime soon that builds a bigger story? Books are individual campaigns or missions but there are three-book cycles that fill out the rest of the series I think the order is something along the lines of this, but I've been on the road/sick for ever and don't have my books at hand- Honour Guard, Guns, Straight Silver - The Saint Sabbat Martyr, Traitor General, His Last Command - The Lost Armor of Contempt, Only in Death, Blood Pact - ????? Salvation's Reach, Warmaster, Untitled - The Victory
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The Founding consists of First and Only, Ghostmaker and Necropolis The Saint goes from Honour Guard, Gunst of Tanith, Straight Silver, and Sabbat Martyr The Lost is Traitor General, His Last Command, The Armour of Contempt, and Only in Death The Victory is Blood Pact, Salvation's Reach, and The Warmaster, and then who knows. There are also several short stories, such as The Iron Star, which immediately follows events in Only in Death, Of Their Lives in the Ruins of Their Cities which is set during Ghostmaker, one set immediately after Necropolis that I forget the name of, and then a bunch of post Salvation's Reach stories in the Sabbat Crusade anthology.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:35
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Armor of Contempt is my favorite of them all.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:39
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MariusLecter posted:Armor of Contempt is my favorite of them all. Mine as well. Good god that book is grimdark. It wasn't a liberation, it was a mercy killing.
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Jun 12, 2017 15:46
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I'm still partial to the classics. Necropolis is the only 40k book that's made me tear up some, at the end. And would probably make a drat good stand-alone movie, much better than any Space Marines garbage.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:09
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I'd say that Armageddon would probably be the ideal Warhammer 40K story to adapt to film. Yarrick on the ground, Helbrecht in the sky.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:18
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Jun 12, 2017 16:26
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I don't think Space Marines would be a good way to introduce 40k to film, honestly. There's a lot of baggage to get through for the ordinary viewer. The Guard, by contrast, are much easier to grasp, and tend to be much more human and relatable. Necropolis is also an elegantly simple scenario with a broad range of characters, including women.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:27
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Meridian posted:Started reading Eisenhorn. Some good one liners so far. Agreed, almost reminds me of hard boiled detective novels.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:29
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Cythereal posted:I'm still partial to the classics. Necropolis is the only 40k book that's made me tear up some, at the end. Wait, what happened at the end that was so sad again?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Wait, what happened at the end that was so sad again? Dorden  Caffran gets a family 
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Immanentized posted:Dorden For me, it was the coda piece. The artist making a statue of a simple Guardsman even as Vervunhive is abandoned to the ages. The simple humanity of the Guard, especially when Abnett's writing them, gets me emotionally invested in a way no Space Marine book (not even First Heretic and Betrayer) has. These are just normal dudes, fighting for other normal dudes in very normal, very human ways. And all too often, suffering and dying in very human ways.
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I always thought Eisenhorn would make for a good HBO mini series. The first scene of the first book where he is having a running gun fight while people are coming out of cryo-sleep would be an amazing scene to see come to life.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I always thought Eisenhorn would make for a good HBO mini series. The first scene of the first book where he is having a running gun fight while people are coming out of cryo-sleep would be an amazing scene to see come to life. They kind of did with the video game adaptation but it could be much better. The problem with anything 40k is that there is a lot of backstory to explain. It might not get the required ratings because of this.
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rocket_man38 posted:They kind of did with the video game adaptation but it could be much better. The problem with anything 40k is that there is a lot of backstory to explain. It might not get the required ratings because of this. One of the reasons I like the idea of Necropolis for a movie adaptation. Good guy space soldiers trying to defend space city from evil space soldiers with more superweapons up their sleeve than the Galactic Empire.
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Cythereal posted:I'm still partial to the classics. Necropolis is the only 40k book that's made me tear up some, at the end. Necropolis is absolutely my favorite. After that, Traitor General.
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Nah, just skip on the exposition, they did AGOT (initially) pretty elegantly without bogging you down in detail. "Heres a detective in space, he battles horrors." Have the detail expand with the story. Theres quite a bit of 40K which is standard sci fi, people would grasp it pretty quick. Edit: Yeah necropolis would be ideal for adaptation, you don't need to go into explaining chaos and gods and all that stuff, just present Chaos as the awful body horror monsters that they are.
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Cythereal posted:I don't think Space Marines would be a good way to introduce 40k to film, honestly. There's a lot of baggage to get through for the ordinary viewer. The Guard, by contrast, are much easier to grasp, and tend to be much more human and relatable. This is my take as well. I think it would pay off tremendously to play the first few movies off with space marines being literal legend spoken of in hushed tones. Then you could introduce them with Helsreach or even Salvation's Reach where they are appropriately scary to the human actors. Necropolis even has an after action report on a chapter torching the spike and doing the ignoble job of putting down Zoican survivors.
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Um they DID make a 40k movie and it was about space marines and it sucked a whole lot.
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Have it be a Necropolis movie but at the end have some Space Marines touch down and wreck poo poo with no explanation. That'd be a cool finale.
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Event Horizon was a pretty good 40k movie imo.
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What was the gaunts book where he meets up with some eldar at the end. I think that was the last one I read.
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I recently reread Eisenhorn, and it's still an excellent read Glossia is still dumb as gently caress though
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euphronius posted:What was the gaunts book where he meets up with some eldar at the end. I think that was the last one I read. That's the second one iirc? The first one ends with them fighting the men of iron or whatever.
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Oh I didn't get very far then.
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euphronius posted:What was the gaunts book where he meets up with some eldar at the end. I think that was the last one I read. Ghostmaker. I don't think that book gets enough credit. No its not the best and I liked first and only better of the two short story collections, but a lot of the individual stories in that book are killer, like Larkin's hallucinations or Bragg's understated intelligence.
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rocket_man38 posted:Agreed, almost reminds me of hard boiled detective novels. "Who do you work for?" "The Emperor." "Well, imagine I'm him and you won't be far off." 
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Meridian posted:"Who do you work for?" Everyone shits themselves when someone brings out a Rosette.
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Syncopated posted:Event Horizon was a pretty good 40k movie imo. Absolutely true.
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Can someone lightly spoil what happens at the end of His Last Command? I think maybe I read it. Thank you.
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Hustlin Floh posted:Finished the Space Shark book. Not sure I remember anything about it. The chapter's name is Space Sharks. 
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euphronius posted:Can someone lightly spoil what happens at the end of His Last Command? I think maybe I read it. Thank you. Gaunt realizes that the gates to the deeper sections of the cities are actually warp portals similar to ones he saw on Gereon. While the Guard pulls out of the cities to nuke them, the Ghosts hold a rearguard action and try to collapse one of the gateways to stop the archenemy from pouring through. Feygor dies trying to set the satchel charge, and Wilder gives command back to Gaunt just before diving headfirst into the enemy forces to cover the withdrawal.
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Thanks mate.
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Meridian posted:"Who do you work for?" "My patience, unlike my authority, is not unlimited." 
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