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IRQ posted:He's said he would write things different in the books from what the show has done just for the sake of it. in a recent interview, he's still complaining that Dany's rape in the show wasn't heartwarming enough. http://time.com/4791258/game-of-thrones-george-r-r-martin-interview/ quote:To a certain degree, also, it’s so intertwined, tragically and unfortunately, with the character histories. Daenerys doesn’t get to where she is unless she’s sold as a child bride, effectively a slave. This is what bothers him. It was very important to him that his 13 year old character got wet for some reason.
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He didn't say that. I mean, he did imply that there are a few twists and turns that he will write (allegedly) that the show can't do for a variety of reasons but in general he said that he is not going to change major plot lines just because their conclusions have been revealed by the show.
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Jul 13, 2017 17:22
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Is it out yet
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pakman posted:Is it out yet It's out and it glistens wetly.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:14
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pakman posted:Is it out yet In one hour! http://grrm.livejournal.com/543080.html
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Jul 13, 2017 18:15
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If you are doing a rereading are there any characters you can skip without it ruining the story beats? Anything with Dany seems like you fan skip it, since she is across the sea doing her own thing away from the main characters. Are there any others? Bran is the only other one that comes immediately to mind, but I don't think you can really avoid him until he goes off on his journey to the tree...
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Jul 13, 2017 18:19
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Anything in Dorne. Probably the iron islands stuff in feast - remember Euron wins, Asha flees, Victarion pretends to serve him and heads for Dany. (Euron might well end up a major villain so it might be worth reading stuff about him but I dunno.) There's probably some skippable brienne stuff in there but honestly I like those sections, especially the part with septon meribald. Nimble dick is the weakest there for sure.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:51
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Quentyn is completely and 100% skippable.
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Jul 13, 2017 20:44
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Skip nothing if you want a bunch of nice vignettes about a world in crisis. Skip everything if you only want to read things that are relevant to the plot.
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Max posted:Quentyn is completely and 100% skippable. Pretty much. "Once upon a time there was an extremely boring guy. He was kind of ugly and he never did or said anything cool. He was part of his dad's awesome revenge plan, but it fell apart because the lady who he was supposed to marry said 'no-thanks' because of the fact that he was so boring and ugly. Then he got killed by a dragon. The End"
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Jul 13, 2017 21:37
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pidan posted:Skip nothing if you want a bunch of nice vignettes about a world in crisis. ya every chapter is good and relevant to the state of the world at that moment in time
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Jul 13, 2017 21:39
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You could skip all the Bran chapters from aCoK on. You could probably skip the Arya chapters from aCoK on too, really. Except these are actually good.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:40
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Fhate posted:"Once upon a time there was an extremely boring guy. He was kind of ugly and he never did or said anything cool. He was part of his dad's awesome revenge plan, but it fell apart because the lady who he was supposed to marry said 'no-thanks' because of the fact that he was so boring and ugly. Then he got killed by a dragon. Quentin is alive, Preston Jacobs said so.
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Jul 13, 2017 22:27
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Fhate posted:Pretty much. But but but the sun rose in the west and set in the east!
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Mad Hamish posted:But but but the sun rose in the west and set in the east! 
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The son? Quintynn? was raised in the west and died in the east? Did I get it yet?
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And his sigil is a sun with a spear and he comes from Sunspear in the land of Dawn.
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The Great Sept is definitely blowing up in the books right
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The Great Sept is definitely blowing up in the books right Not if it didn't happen already.
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They explicitly removed all the dragonfire from under the great sept in the book
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Daius posted:They explicitly removed all the dragonfire from under the great sept in the book The fact that there's any reference to wildfire under the sept at all in the books makes it very suspicious.
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Jul 14, 2017 16:57
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The fact that there's any reference to wildfire under the sept at all in the books makes it very suspicious. Not even in connection with Mad King Aerys' plot to blow up the city during the rebellion? A Literal Crazy Person posted:"The traitors want my city, but I’ll give them naught but ashes. Let Robert be king over charred bones and cooked meat."
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Mad Hamish posted:Not even in connection with Mad King Aerys' plot to blow up the city during the rebellion? I thought Tyrion used his big brains to get the wildfire pyro dudes to give up all the locations of the stuff for the battle of blackwater bay
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Cersei becoming the next Aerys does seem like something she could do long-term. Especially given how she reacted to burning down the Tower of the Hand.
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She'll set off a wildfire explosion in the city but I don't know if it'll be the Sept
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Cersei becoming the next Aerys does seem like something she could do long-term. Especially given how she reacted to burning down the Tower of the Hand. Right and then Jaime gets to kill her to save the city just like he did to aerys and it's a fitting end to his arc with cersei and makes him a kinslayer instead of just a kingslayer and his is the valonqar and once again he does the right thing and ends up reviled for it, so thematic much motif ahhhh.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Cersei becoming the next Aerys does seem like something she could do long-term. Especially given how she reacted to burning down the Tower of the Hand. And she is Aerys daughter, of course. Born out of the rape of Joanna Lannister.
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Sup. Anything to report in here?
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Fog Tripper posted:Sup. Every character in the books is a secret rape baby of someone else. Also book not out.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:22
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Fog Tripper posted:Sup. http://grrm.livejournal.com/543080.html Head to your book store and get in line.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Right and then Jaime gets to kill her to save the city just like he did to aerys and it's a fitting end to his arc with cersei and makes him a kinslayer instead of just a kingslayer and his is the valonqar and once again he does the right thing and ends up reviled for it, so thematic much motif ahhhh. This actually would own though. With more brooding and neeps in the actual book, of course.
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SaviourX posted:This actually would own though. With more brooding and neeps in the actual book, of course. Yeah I mean, it's pretty good, I just would have preferred reading it than inferring it from reading a decade's worth of fan overanalysis.
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SaviourX posted:This actually would own though. With more brooding and neeps in the actual book, of course. What blows is the internet has had a lot of time to speculate on what happens and the show has spoiled a fair amount. Even if Martin manages to finish the thing, a lot of people will already have heard it, or some version of it, before. Hell, I've more than once come across someone saying "Hodor" meant "hold the door" -- a take on the racist joke "What has six legs and says 'ho de do ho de do" (three black guys calling for an elevator). The only people able to judge ASOIAF impartially are those who have never seen the show and come to the series after it is completed. I wonder if the hobbyist's craft will stand the test of time.
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I've never seen the show and managed to keep from hearing anything about it. Not that i tried to not hear anything, but i don't know or talk to anyone that has either.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Cersei becoming the next Aerys does seem like something she could do long-term. Especially given how she reacted to burning down the Tower of the Hand. The wildfire explosion of the Tower of the Hand set off a wildfire explosion in her pants.
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Mad Hamish posted:The wildfire explosion of the Tower of the Hand set off a wildfire explosion in her pants. Same.
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SaviourX posted:This actually would own though. With more brooding and neeps in the actual book, of course. only if he loses his other hand too.
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IRQ posted:He's said he would write things different in the books from what the show has done just for the sake of it. You know - thinking about this. I'll bet at the end of the day he will be glad they finished the show. He won't ever admit it, but it's like when you have a project for the sciencefair due the next day - and your dad comes in and builds you small electronic railgun that shoots BB's. Sure, everyone knows he built it, and it is embarrassing you didn't do it yourself - but at least it got done. And you tell yourself "well I could have done this", except I would have made it shoot nails instead of BB's which is waaaaay cooler. He might bitch and moan, but at the end of the day - he has a loving script done for the rest of the book. He can jerk off writing stuff like this: http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/ And the loving pressure is OFF! He has to get one more book out in the next 2 years, which is completely doable - and after that the HBO pressure is gone, done! He can spend the rest of his life working on this, like an old man dribbling piss into the toilet. Bitching and moaning the whole time.
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You took me there.
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