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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

xzzy posted:

Fuckin ace, we finally upgraded our kronos timecard system! The java version is gone so now I can stop fussing with java versions!

What did they replace it with? A flash version!

What the loving gently caress.

We use this pos:

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

gently caress Wal-Mart's IT services



I'm about to go kick Jimmie's rear end

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!



:monocle:

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Bob Morales posted:

We use this pos:



I'd be hammering on that "change job" button every morning.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Bob Morales posted:

We use this pos:




Ours is web based. And the developers make sure it works on all 4 major browsers, including FireFox, Chrome, Safari, and Edge. They don't officially support IE anymore, but it does work on it.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

stevewm posted:

Ours is web based. And the developers make sure it works on all 4 major browsers, including FireFox, Chrome, Safari, and Edge. They don't officially support IE anymore, but it does work on it.


"Let's go with this cool LCD font. Man...it's totally unreadable. gently caress it! Let's do it anyway."

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Is 'punch log' codename for taking a poo poo

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Dick Trauma posted:

Healthy emotional venting

I don't want to play devil's advocate, feelings are valid no matter what they are. I can however say from experience that depression and/or anxiety can cause you to have a more negative outlook on events than they actually are, and undiagnosed depression and/or anxiety means you don't necessarily know that you're looking at it through poo poo-brown tinted lenses. The ultimate effect is that you act as if you're really in the negative position you perceive and, well, self-fulfilling prophecy...

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
I am sorry for all of those that still use a loving timeclock.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Bob Morales posted:

"Let's go with this cool LCD font. Man...it's totally unreadable. gently caress it! Let's do it anyway."

Yeah, the font reminds me a bit of the early 00's craze on skinning every application.

But that is honestly the worst GUI faux-pas they made. The backend that managers/payroll uses is all business. No weird fonts, buttons, colors, etc...

Its a huge improvement over anything we have used in the past, and some of the horrid spectacles others in the thread have posted.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Sickening posted:

I am sorry for all of those that still use a loving timeclock.

In our org, no one in the corp office uses a time clock at all, thankfully.

The clock is only for non-salaried staff in our store locations.

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Bob Morales posted:

Is 'punch log' codename for taking a poo poo

Haha... It shows the last few punches they have made, once they type in their code.

This is just the simple clock interface. There is a "Dashboard" login that also allows them to clock in/out, see schedules, request time off, etc..

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!



Welp I'll be at the bar

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

stevewm posted:

Yeah, the font reminds me a bit of the early 00's craze on skinning every application.

But that is honestly the worst GUI faux-pas they made. The backend that managers/payroll uses is all business. No weird fonts, buttons, colors, etc...

Its a huge improvement over anything we have used in the past, and some of the horrid spectacles others in the thread have posted.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

stevewm
May 10, 2005

ah! It was you!

You have my condolences.


Let me guess.. It is written in VB6, FoxPro, Java, Flash, or a combination of them all?

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Bob Morales posted:



Welp I'll be at the bar

*Netsuite calls coming in at work*

*browsing thread* oh hey ok.

*company wide email goes out* yep

But i'm service desk and just have to keep answering.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

That version number. Just imagine the release notes.

For a "user friendly" interface why does it have such a terrible name?

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Sickening posted:

I am sorry for all of those that still use a loving timeclock.

Our company just implemented a WFM program... we have less than 100 people on staff and only half of them clock hours the rest are salary or bill differently. The reason we did it is because the "HR" person fucks poo poo up constantly, so instead of getting someone that doesn't suck (nepotism) they spent a stupid amount of money to do this.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
We hire a few hundred 16-20 year old kids every summer, timeclocks are the only way to make sense of when they actually work.

And our timekeeping is an on-prem dogshit database that can't pre-date time off requests or keep schedules. It's garbage.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Paladine_PSoT posted:

The ultimate effect is that you act as if you're really in the negative position you perceive and, well, self-fulfilling prophecy...

Agreed. That's why today with my mental burden lifted I refrained from walking around the office like I was going to an execution.

I will not go about with my head hanging low or staring daggers at these shitfucks.

If my Monday meeting with the CEO actually takes place I'll handle it in a similar fashion. I've been invisible for too long.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
Weeeee, the OpenDNS tagging that blocked the forums is back. :smith:

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

xzzy posted:

Fuckin ace, we finally upgraded our kronos timecard system! The java version is gone so now I can stop fussing with java versions!

What did they replace it with? A flash version!

What the loving gently caress.

Aren't all major browsers killing flash now? I have a collection of .swf games and silly animations and every new computer it becomes harder and harder to get them to play in browser.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009
Isn't, for a timecard application, much better to just read security cards swipes/signals? why do they have to bother with providing UI to the people? a management UI is needed, of course, but why more than that?

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
poo poo pissing me off but not pissing me off: lost my best network engineer today. New position is way better than what I was offering him in terms of applying his skillset and money and I wished him all the best. He said it had nothing to do with my management or the company, and I really hope that's true. He was an awesome teammate and I needed him for a bunch of initiatives I'm pushing. I hate interviewing and hiring when I know there are long odds I'm going to come up with a replacement as good as the person I'm losing.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Volguus posted:

Isn't, for a timecard application, much better to just read security cards swipes/signals? why do they have to bother with providing UI to the people? a management UI is needed, of course, but why more than that?

We have an RFID tag reader in the plant that the manufacturing/warehouse guys use. But they are like $4 each so it's "cheaper" to have IT install and support this poo poo all on everyone's computer (don't get me started about the Mac users who can't use it)

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Volguus posted:

Isn't, for a timecard application, much better to just read security cards swipes/signals? why do they have to bother with providing UI to the people? a management UI is needed, of course, but why more than that?

Cards cost money to replace.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

sfwarlock posted:

Aren't all major browsers killing flash now? I have a collection of .swf games and silly animations and every new computer it becomes harder and harder to get them to play in browser.

Yes, it's been talked about for years and browsers have slowly been shutting off running flash apps. Adobe finally announced a kill date just last week, for 2020.

Perfect timing to upgrade to a flash app!!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


MF_James posted:

Our company just implemented a WFM program... we have less than 100 people on staff and only half of them clock hours the rest are salary or bill differently. The reason we did it is because the "HR" person fucks poo poo up constantly, so instead of getting someone that doesn't suck (nepotism) they spent a stupid amount of money to do this.

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skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Anybody else have a Packard Bell computer with Packard Bell Navigator?

I remember being so cool for eschewing the kids room interface for the grownup living room one

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

We have 2 timeclocks, one that is used with our call dispatching application and one that is just a standard time clock. They are incompatible with each other. If you sign into the wrong one, or the system breaks down in the middle of the day(fairly common), it requires management to go in, wipe all your hours for the week, and rebuild them from scratch. Did I mention we are a large worldwide company?

While this doesn't affect me much(since my position is an odd one that amounts to 'Fix all the tech issues, otherwise eh'), it can be rather annoying. It is also another reason why I will be :yotj: soon.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
Pissing me off:

We don't support Macs. Our software is .net based. We offer a "cloud" solution in the form of our terminal server farm but our premade .rdp files and various supporting software don't work on Mac. Our official line is "You should be able to at least connect using rdp if you find a client for Mac, here's a doc with some programs others have had success with and the settings you'll need, good luck have fun."

Management has decided our unofficial line is now "even though our software doesn't work on a Mac, very few Mac rdp clients support our funky gateway settings, weyave no Macs in house to test on, and WebEx support sessions work only intermittently on Macs so getting connected to end users is a chore, support must get Mac users up and running. Also even though the doc is outdated and refers to old settings and apps that don't exist anymore it will never ever be updated because the VP of support wrote it 5 years ago and you are hurting his feefees by even suggesting it."

Not my problem because I never even touch first line support anymore but it pisses me off that management is so short sighted that they can't see how this will damage our reputation in the long run. This is the same team that, when presented with mathematical evidence that our rdp bandwidth requirements were wildly unrealistic in the age of users with multiple 4k monitors, which is causing them to pitch a fit when they have network issues trying to run 30 sessions over a DSL line, said we would not be changing our bandwidth requirements because "we don't want prospective clients to think they need to buy more expensive internet service to use our products." BITCH THEY WILL ANYWAY BUT ITLL BE AFTER MONTHS OF SUPPORT CALLS AND AFTER THEY TELL THEIR INDUSTRY FRIENDS HOW poo poo TIER WE ARE. How can anyone not see how short-sighted this is?

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
I love the 'cloud solutions' that rely on RDP sessions they are the shittiest stupidest loving things ever lmao

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Quickbooks on Citrix was always my favorite.

Thank god I moved out of small business msp to enterprise.

E: now I'm doing project management on projects to build interfaces between infor lawson and ultipro, but I think I still got the better deal.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jul 29, 2017

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

milk milk lemonade posted:

I love the 'cloud solutions' that rely on RDP sessions they are the shittiest stupidest loving things ever lmao

Nothing quite says "Cloud Technology - It's just someone else's computer" like RDP sessions, my god it really is someone else's computer!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


milk milk lemonade posted:

I love the 'cloud solutions' that rely on RDP sessions they are the shittiest stupidest loving things ever lmao

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Judge Schnoopy posted:

We hire a few hundred 16-20 year old kids every summer, timeclocks are the only way to make sense of when they actually work.

And our timekeeping is an on-prem dogshit database that can't pre-date time off requests or keep schedules. It's garbage.

Good luck with that bit I bolded.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Y'all ever get really pissed off at somebody throwing you under the bus multiple days in a row, and after two attempts of responding straight to the facts you decide to really let loose at the person who doesn't think you're competent at a job because a difficult ticket is taking a few days to resolve?

And then you think "Boy this isn't going to do any good, I'll just delete this email and write a two sentence summary of where we're at"

But then you shrug your shoulders and hit send anyway because you're grumpy as gently caress dealing with this bullshit on a saturday morning

I... probably made a mistake here.

Raerlynn
Oct 28, 2007

Sorry I'm late, I'm afraid I got lost on the path of life.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Y'all ever get really pissed off at somebody throwing you under the bus multiple days in a row, and after two attempts of responding straight to the facts you decide to really let loose at the person who doesn't think you're competent at a job because a difficult ticket is taking a few days to resolve?

And then you think "Boy this isn't going to do any good, I'll just delete this email and write a two sentence summary of where we're at"

But then you shrug your shoulders and hit send anyway because you're grumpy as gently caress dealing with this bullshit on a saturday morning

I... probably made a mistake here.

I feel like we need details. :f5:

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Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
The only other details that make it more interesting are that the guy is sending URGENT PRIORITY 1 tickets to our MSP and copying me on them, despite knowing that I'm the one handling this network ticket and have been for the past month. I've solved multiple separate issues but things are still not 100% (because the solution loving sucks, purchased by my predecessor but installed by me because he didn't want to deal with it). Every week I dedicate more time to this bullshit than anything else I do, yet this guy sends tickets to other people asking for "real solutions".

No matter how many times I detail the progress we've made so far and our current issue that we're working through, he whines at the first sign of a problem on his end like I haven't been addressing it.

Oh and he's one of the six people in the organization at a higher level than I am. He's on the same tier as my boss, and has been here three times as long. So mouthing off to him is most certainly a bad idea as he kind of has 'protected' status.

We'll see how many meetings they can squeeze in on Monday and Tuesday about this, I'm going on vacation Wednesday at which point they can all go gently caress themselves with a rusty nail.

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