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mewse
May 2, 2006

There should be capital punishment for companies that gently caress up that bad. They are people after all

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
On the subject of old hard drives, the centre for computing history in Cambridge has this display which is pretty great

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ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Sickening posted:

RIP equifax. Pour one out for all our IT buddies who just poo poo their pants.

Yep. This one's bad. Really loving bad.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Once all our data is stolen by everybody there will be no more need to protect it! :pseudo:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Current piss-off: half-arsed documentation for getting a service working with a SAML provider :argh:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Dick Trauma posted:

Once all our data is stolen by everybody there will be no more need to protect it! :pseudo:

You joke but it'll probably lead to actual discussahaha sorry, I tried

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Thanks Ants posted:

Current piss-off: half-arsed documentation for getting a service working with a SAML provider :argh:

This pretty much any vendor implementation I do with our ADFS, half of them don't know what claim rules they need, don't give me a metadata file to import, etc etc. it's not like adfs isn't a pretty goddamn standard saml system, you should probably have documentation for that guys!

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

fishmech posted:

Don't worry, they're offering a free year of their own credit monitoring! Don't you feel safe now?

They also have a site up where you can input your last name and the last SIX digits of your SSN to check to see if you're affected. I sure feel comfortable doing that right at this moment.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003

Che Delilas posted:

They also have a site up where you can input your last name and the last SIX digits of your SSN to check to see if you're affected. I sure feel comfortable doing that right at this moment.

Ya, especially because the first three digits were linked to the state of issuance until 2011.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
At this point, really what do you have to lose?

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Che Delilas posted:

They also have a site up where you can input your last name and the last SIX digits of your SSN to check to see if you're affected. I sure feel comfortable doing that right at this moment.

It's a self-signed cert. :D

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Dick Trauma posted:

Once all our data is stolen by everybody there will be no more need to protect it! :pseudo:

After the OPM breach I didn't think it was possible for even more of my PII to get leaked out there but sure, fine, take my entire credit history. All I've got left to uniquely identify me at this point is a tiny scar that I don't think my own mother even knows about.

poo poo, maybe it's time to get some unique tattoos. Or an implanted RFID chip?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Sirotan posted:

After the OPM breach I didn't think it was possible for even more of my PII to get leaked out there but sure, fine, take my entire credit history. All I've got left to uniquely identify me at this point is a tiny scar that I don't think my own mother even knows about.

poo poo, maybe it's time to get some unique tattoos. Or an implanted RFID chip?

But what happens if hackers manage to steal that while you sleep :ohdear:

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Sirotan posted:

After the OPM breach I didn't think it was possible for even more of my PII to get leaked out there but sure, fine, take my entire credit history. All I've got left to uniquely identify me at this point is a tiny scar that I don't think my own mother even knows about.

poo poo, maybe it's time to get some unique tattoos. Or an implanted RFID chip?

Yeah, my information has been stolen by so many people by now that it is dumb.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




mewse posted:

There should be capital punishment for companies that gently caress up that bad. They are people after all

"I'll believe companies are people when Texas executes one."

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I wonder what the day was like of the IT person who had been complaining for years that this was going to happen. And the IT person who inevitably gets traced as the one that "allowed" the vulnerability to stay open.

And if both are the same person, hopefully they got a lot of saved emails documenting how it's an organizational fault.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

xzzy posted:

I wonder what the day was like of the IT person who had been complaining for years that this was going to happen. And the IT person who inevitably gets traced as the one that "allowed" the vulnerability to stay open.

And if both are the same person, hopefully they got a lot of saved emails documenting how it's an organizational fault.

And if they do, then what? Suing a rich corporation, who can drag it for years before the person will die of stress? I mean, it's better to have those emails than not, but ... not much good can come out of it.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Dick Trauma posted:

Once all our data is stolen by everybody there will be no more need to protect it! :pseudo:

Think of the savings on backups!

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Volguus posted:

And if they do, then what? Suing a rich corporation, who can drag it for years before the person will die of stress? I mean, it's better to have those emails than not, but ... not much good can come out of it.

I wasn't thinking of suing the corporation, just having some protection if lawyers come after them. Because this sort of thing demands scapegoats.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I'd hate to be proven wrong but I'm not aware of a single case of a sys admin being on the hook unless they were engaged in criminal activity themselves.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I'd hate to be proven wrong but I'm not aware of a single case of a sys admin being on the hook unless they were engaged in criminal activity themselves.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-07/three-equifax-executives-sold-stock-before-revealing-cyber-hack

These guys on the other hand are really hosed.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

I'd be shocked if they were punished with anything more than a fine that makes up 20% of the extra money they made by selling those shares before the price started falling.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I heard an interview on the radio this afternoon of one of Australia's representatives (eqifax has a company here) and when asked the question "what do you recommend your customers do?" there was silence and this "well, normally I would say to buy our credit protection subscription, but...hmm"

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
I used to work for Experian and I can only imagine the utter shitstorm facing anyone customer facing at Equifax today. We used to get hit badly enough when it was someone ELSE that had a data breach, their phone lines are going to be jammed all month for this.

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

AlternateAccount posted:

Oh, don't forget those completely stupid BIGFOOT drives: http://www.redhill.net.au/d/125.php



They were not lovely at all. When they were new it was a heap of storage for very cheap.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Fil5000 posted:

On the subject of old hard drives, the centre for computing history in Cambridge has this display which is pretty great



Harry Potter is my new favourite unit of measurement.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Needs like a 256GB MicroSD card in there

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
For anyone in the UK, that museum is definitely worth a visit. There's hardly anything that you can't just poke and prod to your hearts content, and there's a ton of arcade cabinets on freeplay as well as a big wall of consoles from the intellivision up to the gamecube that are also available to play on. They even had an Amstrad GX4000 which was an utter failure, only has about a dozen games and has the worst gamepad I've ever had the misfortune to hold.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

fist4jesus posted:

They were not lovely at all. When they were new it was a heap of storage for very cheap.

They often had overheating and reliability problems in the devices they'd be sold in.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Fil5000 posted:

For anyone in the UK, that museum is definitely worth a visit. There's hardly anything that you can't just poke and prod to your hearts content, and there's a ton of arcade cabinets on freeplay as well as a big wall of consoles from the intellivision up to the gamecube that are also available to play on. They even had an Amstrad GX4000 which was an utter failure, only has about a dozen games and has the worst gamepad I've ever had the misfortune to hold.

Also this https://www.scienceandmediamuseum.org.uk/whats-on/yorkshire-games-festival

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

I also work about 15 minutes walk away from the national videogame arcade in Nottingham, but for some reason I've never been. I've driven 90 minutes to Cambridge to see a room full of BBC Micros but I won't use my lunch break to go and see the Dizzy exhibition, apparently.

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?

Humphreys posted:

I heard an interview on the radio this afternoon of one of Australia's representatives (eqifax has a company here) and when asked the question "what do you recommend your customers do?" there was silence and this "well, normally I would say to buy our credit protection subscription, but...hmm"

http://myfox8.com/2017/09/08/if-you-want-help-from-equifax-there-are-strings-attached/

quote:

You give up your right to sue Equifax. If you get the credit monitoring service, you must agree to submit any complaints against Equifax to arbitration. You can’t sue on your own behalf, and you can’t join a class-action case or benefit from any class-action settlement that Equifax agrees to.

holy. gently caress.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Are those terms even legal?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
More things to consider: their main site is still broken:
https://twitter.com/x0rz/status/906046732722679808

fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

fishmech posted:

They often had overheating and reliability problems in the devices they'd be sold in.

Jamming the thing into a device that wasn't suited to it doesn't make the drive itself bad.
The ones I had, that I bought in 1997, were still running 12 years later. I think their magnets are still on the side of my filecabinet.

Yes they ran warm, thats why people in those days had lots of fans. Remember all the dinky 2-3 ones that went into 5.25 bays?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
The US supreme Court upheld arbitration clauses as legally binding.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

fist4jesus posted:

Jamming the thing into a device that wasn't suited to it doesn't make the drive itself bad.
The ones I had, that I bought in 1997, were still running 12 years later. I think their magnets are still on the side of my filecabinet.

Yes they ran warm, thats why people in those days had lots of fans. Remember all the dinky 2-3 ones that went into 5.25 bays?

Well the drives were DESIGNED to be jammed into cheap computers with less care about airflow and stuff is the thing.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Couldn't get it without the glare, but I took a better photo of the disk platter display we have at work.



Since we all seem to love oogling out of date hardware.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

bitterandtwisted posted:

Harry Potter is my new favourite unit of measurement.

We used to use the Encyclopaedia Britannica or OED as a unit of measurement.

We're a empire in decline.

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fist4jesus
Nov 24, 2002

fishmech posted:

Well the drives were DESIGNED to be jammed into cheap computers with less care about airflow and stuff is the thing.

No. They were designed to be easily built and to give the best price to storage at the time. They also took advantage of the unused bay space most cases at the time had.
Anecdotal I know, but my experience with them was as a owner and selling the things to cheap customers. Not a noticeable difference in rma volume or returns.

The worst (and best) thing about them was actually the sound, could clearly hear the thing spin up and down.

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