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derp posted:lol at everyone jumping to the defense of a childrens comic book on the Quit Being a loving Child and Read Some Real Literature thread I am growing stronger and you are mewling like a baby
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 05:34 |
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Is that a dragonball reference or
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 06:44 |
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Real literature can include manga, or any text. It should just be good. Reading a good comic like Oyasumi Punpun is clearly better than reading a bad book. The other threads mostly talk about stuff from the shiny colorful part of the bookstore, which are never good.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 08:41 |
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You know what I'm growing to like this unjustifiably smug hydrocephalic child
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 10:00 |
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i am a manga irl
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:20 |
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derp posted:oh and that awful name of the wind that i only picked up because so many people went on and on about how beautiful the writing was, but it was just some guy's dnd character selling lamps. I'm not for sale!
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:04 |
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words are little more than images that the brain recognizes and assigns meaning to like all images by that standard, all books are manga *zen*
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:32 |
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ive started reading satantango
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:36 |
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derp posted:no dragons, i havent read fantasy since i was a teen, except grr 10 or 12 years ago and a brief dip into sanderson five or six years ago lmao are you like 30
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:59 |
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derp posted:Is that a dragonball reference or 🤔
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 14:51 |
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this thread is terrible now. i finished a portrait of the artist as a young man, and i'm pretty sure that it's a much better novel than ulysses, in the sense that ulysses is a product of an insane suffusion of language, philosophy, literature, local history, world history, etc. etc. ulysses is excellent, and well worth reading, but to properly come to grips with it is such a herculean project which stretches so far outside of itself on such a variety of levels that i think it's less of a novel and more of its own thing. something else which is formatively difficult like the sound and the fury requires a lot of concentration and attention, but there's nothing as central to it as, on a large scale, the odyssey is to the larger structure of ulysses, and on a small scale knowledge about horse racing or particular cuts of meat or catholic rituals or how printing presses operated or how dock workers smell is to various episodes of it. anyway, good poo poo, highly recommended as a dip into joyce.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 15:25 |
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fridge corn posted:ive started reading satantango cool, how good is it compared to war and war/melancholy of resistance
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 15:27 |
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Nostos posted:cool, how good is it compared to war and war/melancholy of resistance idk ive just started it. only read melancholy previously
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 16:32 |
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CestMoi posted:lmao are you like 30 if only
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 16:50 |
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nice blog, not sure I'd put it on my SA profile tho
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 16:59 |
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i'll see myself out
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Foul Fowl posted:this thread is terrible now. it's good actually
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 18:11 |
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I thought the Portrait of the Artist was bland and uninteresting and that's why I haven't read Ulysses yet, even though I will someday
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 20:31 |
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as someone who went to catholic school, had artistic aspirations and thought he was a lot smarter than he actually was, Portrait hit a little too close to home at times
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I also just reread it and really loved how the world slowly expanded in depth, complexity, and banality, as Stephen got older.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 22:28 |
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Vogler posted:I thought the Portrait of the Artist was bland and uninteresting and that's why I haven't read Ulysses yet, even though I will someday Ulysses is nothing like Portrait of the Artist. You still get some amount of Stephen Dedalus' insufferable mind, but it's in stark contrast with the delightful Bloom.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 23:09 |
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Vogler posted:I thought the Portrait of the Artist was bland and uninteresting and that's why I haven't read Ulysses yet, even though I will someday Derp alt found
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 23:11 |
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Maybe interesting to some here Fiction: The Drone King A newly discovered short story by Kurt Vonnegut its a pretty funny story
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 23:33 |
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Read the Ruth Ozeki novel someone mentioned earlier in the thread and really enjoyed it. I'm checking out her other novels and wanted to know if there were other authors/books that have a similar style to hers?
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# ? Sep 9, 2017 18:07 |
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Furious Lobster posted:Read the Ruth Ozeki novel someone mentioned earlier in the thread and really enjoyed it. I'm checking out her other novels and wanted to know if there were other authors/books that have a similar style to hers? I assume you mean A Tale for the Time Being? In the case, the book was Magical Realism and boy you are gonna have a great time if you've never read the genre
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# ? Sep 9, 2017 18:09 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I assume you mean A Tale for the Time Being? It was actually My Year of Meats I think, cause I put it on my to-read list after OP talked about it unless someone else mentioned Time Being
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# ? Sep 9, 2017 19:09 |
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Guy A. Person posted:It was actually My Year of Meats I think, cause I put it on my to-read list after OP talked about it Yes, it was My Year of Meats.
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# ? Sep 9, 2017 20:27 |
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I'm halfway through nostalgia, finished the broken jug and draußen vor der tür which was really excellent. Has anyone read borcherts other dramas (granvella, yorick der narr)?
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Nostos posted:I'm halfway through nostalgia, finished the broken jug and draußen vor der tür which was really excellent. Has anyone read borcherts other dramas (granvella, yorick der narr)? I've only read the man outside because it's in English translation with all his short stories, I guess it's pretty good but I don't really know anything about plays.
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A human heart posted:I've only read the man outside because it's in English translation with all his short stories, I guess it's pretty good but I don't really know anything about plays. I read some of his short stories a while ago i think, I don't remember them that well though. Speaking of good plays, Kleist's Amphitryon is cool, way better than most of Goethe/Klopstock/Schiller etc stuff imo. His writing is way ahead of its time and feels much more modern compared to other german romantics.
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 23:09 |
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Instead of the sea I read red harvest. It had better count as real literature because it was excellent.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 17:43 |
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Did any children get hosed?
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 17:46 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Did any children get hosed? Nobody has on screen sex. Poisonville is a hosed up place though, so maybe off-screen?
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 17:59 |
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ahem the proper idiom would be "between the lines"
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 19:05 |
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Powaqoatse posted:ahem the proper idiom would be "between the lines" gently caress, owned. It was interesting that the badass noir guy was short, overweight and constantly drunk unlike the adaptations. Also, the prose, despite being extremely terse, was a delight.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 21:39 |
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hey I just finished Swann's Way and uh wow I'm really amazed by it, what do I read next thread? I'll get to the next volume....sometime....
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my bony fealty posted:hey I just finished Swann's Way and uh wow I'm really amazed by it, what do I read next thread? I'll get to the next volume....sometime.... Which translation did you read? I finished Lydia Davis' earlier this year and loved it but she didn't do the rest of them.
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Alvarez IV posted:On the subject, I'm looking to read as many books as possible in the vein of Lolita, American Psycho, Junkie, The 120 Days of Sodom, et cetera. Stuff about unrepentant transgressors who society allows to practice their poison. Preferably with good language like Nabokov, de Sade, and Burroughs. I'm not that great a fan of the BEE house style. I heard Tampa by Alissa Nutting was supposed to be decent, but I can't confirm. The vice itself doesn't matter so much to me, just that it is severe. Probably any Genet but Funeral Rites especially cuz of the Nazis and corpse eating/loving
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 09:05 |
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I read Erich Auerbach's Mimesis and it was uh loving incredible. Every chapter has at least one knockout observation on some famous definitive work of Western lit. If you're going to read something that's an unabashed apologia for the Western Canon, read Auerbach and not Bloom. Guy looks like a charlatan in comparison. Shame about the translator using words like 'withal' and my edition leaving chunks of Old French or sth untranslated tho.my bony fealty posted:hey I just finished Swann's Way and uh wow I'm really amazed by it, what do I read next thread? I'll get to the next volume....sometime.... I made the mistake of trying to read Proust all at once and spent like three months at it aged 17 and now I don't remember any of it, so you're fine just not slogging through Proust.
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Alvarez IV posted:On the subject, I'm looking to read as many books as possible in the vein of Lolita, American Psycho, Junkie, The 120 Days of Sodom, et cetera. Stuff about unrepentant transgressors who society allows to practice their poison. Preferably with good language like Nabokov, de Sade, and Burroughs. I'm not that great a fan of the BEE house style. I heard Tampa by Alissa Nutting was supposed to be decent, but I can't confirm. The vice itself doesn't matter so much to me, just that it is severe. some have already been said skagboys, trainspotting by irvine welsh essential acker by kathy acker the demon, requiem for a dream by hubert selby jr cain's book by alexander trocchi you can't win by jack black pimp by iceberg slim dopefiend by donald goines steps by jerzy kosinski under the volcano by malcolm lowry is a little more 'literary' and less transgressive and dennis cooper was already said too, also last days by brian evenson
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