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Black August posted:the second I found out he's apparently voiced by a Jotaro VA, poo poo the english dub already used Matt Mercer on Hit what are they gonna do
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Augus posted:poo poo the english dub already used Matt Mercer on Hit what are they gonna do They could just have Mercer voice him too. Dude has the skill to pull it off.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:29
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Augus posted:poo poo the english dub already used Matt Mercer on Hit what are they gonna do Wait I'm an idiot I meant Kenshiro Black August fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 19:30
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Monaghan posted:I'm glad that the writers seem to be making jiren live up to all his hype. I just hope Jiren has an actual personality and isn't just a generic silent fightman, because so far there's not much going for him other than 'is absurdly strong'.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:32
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IncendiaC posted:I just hope Jiren has an actual personality and isn't just a generic silent fightman, because so far there's not much going for him other than 'is absurdly strong'. I hope that once he stops being able to no-sell Goku, he just starts going into absolutely awesome Protagonist Tirades about justice, and the nature of courage. Like, just reveal that he's exactly as goony as all the other Pride Troopers, but he keeps a lid on it unless he needs to do some Effort. I would accept other things, too, I just hope that his silent, stoic thing is just like a mask he wears when he doesn't give a poo poo.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:40
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deadly_pudding posted:I would accept other things, too, I just hope that his silent, stoic thing is just like a mask he wears when he doesn't give a poo poo. My personal hope is that he does speak, but he's just a very soft-spoken and a coldly disgusted being who sees Goku's fightlust as just plain reprehensible in the face of all the poo poo he's had to deal with
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Oct 3, 2017 19:43
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I think the best they can do with him is to keep his all-business thing going as long as he is winning; It's a job to him, an assignment. Whatever they do once he starts losing I am happy to be surprised by.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:52
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Am I the only one who secretly hopes Jiren is evil? Not in the space-piratey Frost way, but like Buu-levels of genocide way. And Toppo knew.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:42
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That would make literally no sense, but we've heard worse theories of DBS so
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Kashuno posted:That would make literally no sense, but we've heard worse theories of DBS so Their justice poo poo feels like a huge sham already though.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:44
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I want Jiren to be a good guy with a pure heart so the spirit bomb just bounces off of him or passes through him or whatever, completely leaving him unharmed it would be a cool moment without making a no-sell of a spirit bomb seem super lame again
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Oct 3, 2017 20:48
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They 100% believe in Justice, it's just that in U11 "Justice" means "rape and pillage"
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Oct 3, 2017 20:48
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pik_d posted:Their justice poo poo feels like a huge sham already though. People keep saying this but I really doubt that's what the showrunners are going for. I mean, we had that Kahseral guy save a kitten from a burning building while putting his own life at risk, pretty sure we are meant to take their justice deal at face value. What will actually happen is that Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Kaioken Times Twenty Limit Breaker Goku and Jiren fuse and fight the Grand Priest again, entertaining the Zenos so that they decide not to erase everything.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:53
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Kelp Plankton posted:I want Jiren to be a good guy with a pure heart so the spirit bomb just bounces off of him or passes through him or whatever, completely leaving him unharmed This would be an excellent no-sell. And hilarious when it gets bounced back at Goku, whose single-minded selfishness defines an evil heart. I'm pretty sure he's going to use the trick he *just* learned from Frieza in that Hakai bubble to eat the spirit bomb instead of getting nuked by it, and that's how he'll get his new form.
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well I mean, Goku was only able to originally make the Spirit Bomb because he had a pure heart. I doubt that it's changed now even though he's being a dick like it makes more sense that he absorbs the energy of the Spirit Bomb as an SSB and that's what triggers the Limit Break
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Oct 3, 2017 21:05
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Kelp Plankton posted:I want Jiren to be a good guy with a pure heart so the spirit bomb just bounces off of him or passes through him or whatever, completely leaving him unharmed I'm going to be shocked if this isn't exactly what happens.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:06
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It'd be weird if they pulled Frost again with the Pride Troopers
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Oct 3, 2017 21:10
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Blue Star posted:ehhhhh, he's not really wrong, to be honest. I've felt the same way about dbz. Like we never see the characters do anything different to show off their new levels of power. They've always been able to blow up mountains (or moons) and create big-rear end craters, they've always made the entire planet shake whenever they power up, they've always flown at jet speed, they've always moved so fast that they're basically teleporting around each other. It's just that some characters arbitrarily can't hurt others with their attacks. Reading this post prompted me to watch the video, holy moly that's some whiny nonsense. I always feel a bit odd liking Dragonball because I really like the elements most people don't care for (the general goofiness) and don't care about things that seem to make everyone else blow a gasket, usually because I perceive Dragonball as an intrinsically goofy thing that just can't be taken seriously enough for Toriyama's supposed bad world building to matter. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 21:11
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jiren is actually just a broom covered in a coat and wig
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Oct 3, 2017 21:16
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Augus posted:poo poo the english dub already used Matt Mercer on Hit what are they gonna do You're talking about dragon ball dub, where Piccolo and Vegeta are voiced by the same guy
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Oct 3, 2017 21:23
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Kelp Plankton posted:I want Jiren to be a good guy with a pure heart so the spirit bomb just bounces off of him or passes through him or whatever, completely leaving him unharmed Jiren gets hit by the ball, And after a pause, is seen to be holding it, and then throws it back.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:28
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Wait poo poo so if we're looking at a theme where Freiza is now learning how to be immune to Hakai and even control its power, making him an effective Destroyer, then duh it makes sense that the conceptual opposite in the spirit bomb would go to Goku jacking himself up to GoD levels to stay even with ol' cold storage
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Oct 3, 2017 21:31
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khwarezm posted:Toriyama's supposed bad world building to matter. Is it just the inconsistencies created by the DBZ anime's filler?
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Oct 3, 2017 21:39
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I think it's that people conflate DB with something else rather than taking it at face: a manga/anime that shifts between serious and goofy depending on what the scene calls for it's the primary complaint about Super, how it's not at all like Z which is what everyone grew up on
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Oct 3, 2017 21:44
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It's a big thing for the kind of stuff people grew up with. You remember those awesome moments like WHOA REMEMBER WHEN GOKU WENT SUPER SAIYAN THE FIRST TIME HOW EPIC WAS THAT? OR PICCOLO KILLING HIM IN THEIR RADDITZ FIGHT!!" and act like DBZ is some big epic show with hella hardcore fighting. But then they forget stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSezN0fXF9w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRNCDcstcQ
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Oct 3, 2017 21:48
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Even Z, in its serious moments, had that same kind of poo poo. You guys remember the drat near Looney Toons esque faces Freeza made when SSJ Goku literally slapped him silly right? Or his death face?
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I remember the lengthy arc of Dragonball Z where the protagonists fought a magic bubblegum genie who turned people into candy while trying to teach their children a magic dance that made them fat if they messed it up.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:50
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ImpAtom posted:I remember the lengthy arc of Dragonball Z where the protagonists fought a magic bubblegum genie who turned people into candy while trying to teach their children a magic dance that made them fat if they messed it up. To be fair that fight got serious quick. Then Vegetto happened.
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Carlosologist posted:I think it's that people conflate DB with something else rather than taking it at face: a manga/anime that shifts between serious and goofy depending on what the scene calls for When people say world building, I dunno I expected maybe there were some harcore Tuffles fans or something that were mad they had nothing to do with anything anymore.
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a cartoon duck posted:People keep saying this but I really doubt that's what the showrunners are going for. I mean, we had that Kahseral guy save a kitten from a burning building while putting his own life at risk, pretty sure we are meant to take their justice deal at face value. he also went 5 on 2 against another team...
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Oct 3, 2017 21:55
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Kashuno posted:It's a big thing for the kind of stuff people grew up with. You remember those awesome moments like WHOA REMEMBER WHEN GOKU WENT SUPER SAIYAN THE FIRST TIME HOW EPIC WAS THAT? OR PICCOLO KILLING HIM IN THEIR RADDITZ FIGHT!!" and act like DBZ is some big epic show with hella hardcore fighting. hm. do you not understand the epicness of snake way?
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Snake way is inspirational to me. I like to run, and I ran 3100+ miles in 2014, 2015 and 2016. I figure we all have our own snake way to run, in one way or another.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:01
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Condiv posted:he also went 5 on 2 against another team... He had to, or risk that kitten getting erased.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:04
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Condiv posted:he also went 5 on 2 against another team... While literally saying "I don't like doing this but I have to protect my Universe."
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Oct 3, 2017 22:08
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khwarezm posted:Reading this post prompted me to watch the video, holy moly that's some whiny nonsense. Like if he wasn't such a massive douche in his video I could probably agree with his conclusion which is that creative power use is cool, but your man spends what, 20 minutes describing how Ki works and doesn't think at any point: "Perhaps Ki increases how quickly you can react?" or "Perhaps these beams could blow up a universe, but none of the characters want to do that?"
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Oct 3, 2017 22:26
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As in turns out when you're dealing with a constant escalation of characters wielding earthshaking power it becomes really really difficult to illustrate the growth at a point without going full Gurren Lagann and just going absurd galactic scale.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:31
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Condiv posted:he also went 5 on 2 against another team... Going 5 and 2 doesn't mean you're not a bad guy. Superhero teams fight a single baddy all the time.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:33
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The Pride Troopers are in a situation where there is no good alternative and I do not think they can be blamed for trying to save their homes. I fully expect Toppo or Jiren's plan is to wish for every universe to come back, and if that is not possible, that all planets and stars affiliated with sentient beings be safely relocated into U11. Some of them seem to kind of be assholes but this is true for a lot of superheroes too. Batman's an rear end in a top hat. Superman is sometimes a dick. Spider-man would be totally awful if you were opposed to him because he clowns on you and then calls you hurtful things.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Like if he wasn't such a massive douche in his video I could probably agree with his conclusion which is that creative power use is cool, but your man spends what, 20 minutes describing how Ki works and doesn't think at any point: He does address that; he says if you're going faster than light or super reacting or whatever you're spending like 80% of the 'real time' talking because that doesn't fundamentally change because of Ki (also that there's no real way to even convey this other than Krillin or Roshi or whomever the commentator is going OH WOW THAT'S TOO FAST TO EVEN SEE) and that using a beam that took out half the universe would be loving stupid which you can see in the DBSuper version of the Beerus fight. Kild fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Kild posted:He does address that; he says if you're going faster than light or super reacting or whatever you're spending like 80% of the 'real time' talking because that doesn't fundamentally change because of Ki and that using a beam that took out half the universe would be loving stupid.
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