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Manatee Cannon posted:it'd be better if she wasn't a weak joke character. like buu being a doofy fat bubblegum man belied the fact that he was insanely strong and durable, but ribrianne can't even take base vegeta in a straight fight. that means u2's ace is weaker than cabba Since she needed her friend to come bitchslap her like Vegeta does to Cabba next episode I think she was meant to be disheartened and fighting worse.
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Kild posted:stick with the dub if you like, alternatively move to the sub and watch the dub as it comes out like a lot of people here do Yeah, the dub is pretty much rewriting the series in my head. I've gotten used to the Japanese voices, but the English dub just feels more right.
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Kanos posted:Gods of Destruction and Supreme Kais are supposed to function as partners because they're both intended to be vital parts of the system they work in. Given that the nature of their individual roles necessitates the GoD being immensely more powerful in combat than the Supreme Kai, it makes sense to provide a failsafe of some sort if the GoD decides to be an idiot and just lord it over the Kai rather than doing his loving job. I think the theory is that the lifelink means the Supreme Kai can present an ultimate sanction to a GoD if needed despite the difference in power. This symbiosis seems to work really well in the functional universes, with the Supreme Kais and GoDs seeming to have very close and mutually accepting working relationships. I love how its the same loophole as the Kami and Piccolo loophole, too.
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Kaioshin not knowing anything about his job is all on Old Kaioshin for not telling him anything, honestly
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Kanos posted:Gods of Destruction and Supreme Kais are supposed to function as partners because they're both intended to be vital parts of the system they work in. Given that the nature of their individual roles necessitates the GoD being immensely more powerful in combat than the Supreme Kai, it makes sense to provide a failsafe of some sort if the GoD decides to be an idiot and just lord it over the Kai rather than doing his loving job. I think the theory is that the lifelink means the Supreme Kai can present an ultimate sanction to a GoD if needed despite the difference in power. This symbiosis seems to work really well in the functional universes, with the Supreme Kais and GoDs seeming to have very close and mutually accepting working relationships. Didn't Kami say that gods aren't allowed to suicide?
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Blockhouse posted:Kaioshin not knowing anything about his job is all on Old Kaioshin for not telling him anything, honestly He was in training when his predecessor died.
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MonsterEnvy posted:He was in training when his predecessor died. That's the other half of it yeah. Also apparently no other universe has the same multiple Kaioshin system or (more likely) Toriyama Forgot
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Blockhouse posted:That's the other half of it yeah. U6 has at least 2.
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Blockhouse posted:That's the other half of it yeah. Zamasu was North Kai
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Kashuno posted:Zamasu was North Kai Oh he meant the Supreme -> Directional -> Guardian system?
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Kild posted:U6 has at least 2. Nah that dude with Fuwa during the U7/U6 tournament was just his Kibito analogue Kashuno posted:Zamasu was North Kai He was the North Kai as in the same rank as King Kai, not a North Kaioshin
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The wiki says:quote:Normally there are three Supreme Kai in each Universe, with two on duty and if one of the Supreme Kai was to die in an accident, then the currently-inactive third Supreme Kai would grow in the Sacred World of the Kai like a plant,[4] Though one of the active Supreme Kais acts as the primary Supreme Kai, while the other is an attendant. However, in some universes there have been eras where there were more than three Supreme Kai active at one time as, for unknown reasons, Universe 7 previously had five active Supreme Kais. So does that mean there should be another supreme kai growing?
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Kild posted:The wiki says: It's super unclear how much of that growing-on-trees stuff is canon at this point. It's never come up outside of a Toriyama interview from way before Battle of Gods.
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Kild posted:The wiki says: Hopefully Kaioshin remembered to water him.
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ImpAtom posted:I would give the benefit of the doubt and say there's also "she is bad because she is ridiculous and silly and ruining my serious fightman show" which of course will have reasons why Majin Buu doesn't count. i mean theres some pretty key differences between the two of them obviously. ribrianne has like, no serious moments, even when shes fighting all out vs goku its all goofy jokes (which is fine) and they even kinda play it up that the very second he bothers to try even a little bit he kicks her clear across the entire stage. buu is weird and silly but his funny moments (as fat buu) are played in contrast to his horrifying and uncontrollable strength. this is the first major enemy that can't be understood as like, even sentient or stoppable in any way, so when he does some goofball face or turns someone to chocolate or whatever, its directly in contrast to the fact that he's effortlessly dominating the heroes nonstop.
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Kashuno posted:I hope they just say “Jiren is hella strong” and it never is any deeper than that Zzulu posted:Yeah I also hope Jiren is just naturally a crazy strong dude. No weird tricks or gimmicks 
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Wuxi posted:Didn't Kami say that gods aren't allowed to suicide? I would imagine there's a difference between "Gowasu hangs himself because his GodTube channel has no views" and "Kaioshin physically interposes himself between innocent victims and a deranged God of Destruction, thus destroying them both".
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Kanos posted:I would imagine there's a difference between "Gowasu hangs himself because his GodTube channel has no views" and "Kaioshin physically interposes himself between innocent victims and a deranged God of Destruction, thus destroying them both". We can't test that as their is no universe where Gowasu's God tube channel got no views.
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Kashuno posted:Zamasu was North Kai can't wait for zamasu arc 2 once king kai is finally revived by that dick goku
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Condiv posted:can't wait for zamasu arc 2 once king kai is finally revived by that dick goku Good thing that will never happen
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tbp posted:i mean theres some pretty key differences between the two of them obviously. ribrianne has like, no serious moments, even when shes fighting all out vs goku its all goofy jokes (which is fine) and they even kinda play it up that the very second he bothers to try even a little bit he kicks her clear across the entire stage. Her appearance this episode was quite serious, even if they still tinged it with some of the melodrama that's associated with the shows she's parodying.
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Piccolo and Gohan are going to blow off the other Namekian's limbs, but then they find out U6 Namekians can't regrow them.
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bobjr posted:Piccolo and Gohan are going to blow off the other Namekian's limbs, but then they find out U6 Namekians can't regrow them. Then piccolo explains arm tingles and the entire U6 race of amputee Nameks begin their rise to power.
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Jiren wouldn't be casually meditating if Arale was there. She's an opponent worth fighting. If Jiren adapted to Time-Skip, he might even stand a chance against the almighty gag manga character.
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Drop Krillen bring Arale. This is something I can get behind.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Drop Krillen bring Arale. This is something I can get behind. I thought you said Appule, in which case same.
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Drop Tien bring Arale. This is something I can get behind.
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jiren is actually a robot built by that universe's dr slump
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I want someone to fire off a big fat solar flare point blank directly into Jiren's big stupid eyes. His corneas would probably magnify it and fry his brain.
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U3 due for a cull.
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graham cracker posted:I want someone to fire off a big fat solar flare point blank directly into Jiren's big stupid eyes. His corneas would probably magnify it and fry his brain. Jiren would just power up hard enough to disrupt quantum probability and force a universe where it never happened and then scream his attacker directly out of the 3rd dimension
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Man Unless the Namekians can pull something surprising, Kale is the only legit powerful fighter they have left. Poor Universe 6
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How does Namekian fusion work, anyway? Would Piccolo be able to absorb dudes against their will? Does he even know how to do it?
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khwarezm posted:U3 due for a cull. And for an actual episode about them.
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Does Shin or Old Kai have to die in order to kill Beerus?
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It would be cool if Jiren had even a shred of personality
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Shards of Fate posted:Does Shin or Old Kai have to die in order to kill Beerus? both I think? that's why the future trunks stuff made a point of killing shin and destroying the z sword the way it did
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Burkion posted:Man ehhhh...Caulifla is probably pretty up there, It's kind of silly to compare people to the Jiren/Goku tier. A lot of stuff can happen, and when she was recruited they did make a big deal about her being a prodigy.
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