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Augus posted:but lol if you think he's not gonna have fun during a fight eh it wouldn't be the first time (raditz, freeza, goku black and zamasu)
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Edited Doctor posted:I am so upset that it took me so long to realize the joke that the Tournament Of Power was taking place on a top. Last remaining fighter is Toppo, confirmed. Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmk6ScezVFE
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Momomo posted:Yeah, this was the one I found most interesting: "Man I got to apologize to Super Buu and Zamasu, this sucks." "...oh yeah, they don't exist anymore."
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Nov 6, 2017 06:23
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Augus posted:also Goku mysteriously canceling out Beerus's ultimate attack without knowing how, and then Whis discussing the concept of "fighting without thinking" during training at the beginning of RoF. Yeah, the endgame being Ultra Instinct has been reinforced throughout Super, the Goku/Hit episode where he dodges Bulma without thinking is basically him applying Whis' lessons - while not actual UI, he clearly was focused enough on his surroundings to react instinctively, which you could argue is the first step towards that poo poo. It's why I think people saying Goku pulled another power-up outta his rear end can't pay attention to a goddamn kid show. UI is original Super Saiyan, it's not SSJ3 (or even God form), it's been talked about and Goku has been working towards it ever since Whis started training him.
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The last episode was great and I am solidly in the power levels are bullshit camp; but man, there were a lot of non power level contradictions in there. For now, my head canon is that Dragon Ball fighters only take Street Fighter style grey life unless they are completely defeated, and Sayans have innate spell vamp/life steal.
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Nov 6, 2017 09:14
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Yeah pretty much my only problem with the episode is Goku not being hurt at all by Kale's beam is pretty bullshit considering what she did to him literal minutes ago in Dragon Ball time. Probably would've worked better if it was one of Caulifla's attacks that he tanked.
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Nov 6, 2017 09:37
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I just had a thought... has Goku ever met a woman who hasn't hit him? Or shot at him, in the case of Launch.
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Nov 6, 2017 09:52
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That's easy to rationalize as Berserk Kale being her full but completely uncontrolled power versus brand-new LSSJ Kale still not going 100%, seeing that even though Goku had the upper hand, Kale wasn't too far behind - the one getting outright battered was SSJ2 Caulifla. Goku regaining his strength while getting punched around is just how Saiyans do PT. 
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Nov 6, 2017 09:56
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I think his mom was in the bardock movie.
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Ekusukariba posted:She'll have to do something to justify defusing before the tournament is over so ssj3 or other transformation is likely, and I have to assume that either Caulifla or Kale will be the last Universe 6 to lose because it'd just be strange for the rando namekians to be the last hope, so we'll hopefully get some more good fights The rando namekians will be the last ones... And they will lose and get beatdown to Piccolo and Gohan. Thus, facing total erasure, they wimm instead opt to be absorbed by Piccolo. Thus making Piccolo relevant again with his new power
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If you're gonna make two new characters and know they're gonna fuse and get a portmanteau fusion name, why make the names so unwieldy for fusing
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Nov 6, 2017 10:51
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Saagonsa posted:Yeah pretty much my only problem with the episode is Goku not being hurt at all by Kale's beam is pretty bullshit considering what she did to him literal minutes ago in Dragon Ball time. Probably would've worked better if it was one of Caulifla's attacks that he tanked. Goku just reached a new level of power and then got every gram of poo poo in his body beaten out of him, he's definitely had a zenkai
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Nov 6, 2017 11:20
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It’s great the U6 girls get to be UI fodder! For real: the NEP is like “super Saiyan blue defeated?!” As if that hasn’t already happened. Goku gets UI in 116 unless they focus on other fighths
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Nov 6, 2017 12:55
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How horrifying would it be if super ended with goku and friends being erased Like we see them vanish and the screen just cuts to black and slowly rolls credits
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Nov 6, 2017 13:16
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It would probably be the best ending to anything ever made
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Nov 6, 2017 13:53
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I hope Kafla goes L[esbian]SSJ3 and curb-stomps Goku, making all the powerscale babies cry for days
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Nov 6, 2017 14:07
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I wonder how the Japanese audience feels about the U6 saiyans
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Elfface posted:I just had a thought... has Goku ever met a woman who hasn't hit him? Or shot at him, in the case of Launch. Did Videl ever punch him?
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Nov 6, 2017 14:18
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I think of Berserk Kale vs. In Control Kale kinda like Kid Buu vs. Super Buu. Super Buu is technically stronger, but Kid Buu's complete disregard for anything but destruction made him a much bigger threat. I can't wait for DB Heroes or something to introduce In Control Broly, the Broly there his dad was nice and told him he loved him.
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Nov 6, 2017 14:36
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Saagonsa posted:Yeah pretty much my only problem with the episode is Goku not being hurt at all by Kale's beam is pretty bullshit considering what she did to him literal minutes ago in Dragon Ball time. Probably would've worked better if it was one of Caulifla's attacks that he tanked. If you rewatch Berserk Kale manhandling Goku, she slammed and threw him around a bunch but he really didn't look like he was being seriously hurt and he didn't seem to be drained/need to rest after the fight, and he hadn't even pulled out all the stops yet because he was still doing that dumb thing he does when he meets a new opponent and sizes them up. I don't think it's implausible for a prepared Goku to no sell Kale's stuff based on that. Hell, it looked like he was taking more damage and feeling a lot more pain from Caulifla punching him in the stomach while Kale held him in this ep than when Berserk Kale was dragging him through a rock face back in ep 100.
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Nov 6, 2017 14:39
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Elfface posted:I just had a thought... has Goku ever met a woman who hasn't hit him? Or shot at him, in the case of Launch. Forget women, how many people in general does he know that haven't tried to punch him? Videl, I guess. She only punched Gohan.
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Nov 6, 2017 14:53
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Augus posted:Forget women, how many people in general does he know that haven't tried to punch him?
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:Chiaotzu, I think. Have he and Goku ever held a conversation? Chiaotzu doesn't even exist except in Tiens head.
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Nov 6, 2017 14:58
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Didn't Chao psychic Goku in the first Goku vs Tien fight. That counts I think.
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drilldo squirt posted:I think his mom was in the bardock movie. nah that was just another saiyan lady
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Nov 6, 2017 15:10
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Has 18 ever punched Goku?
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CharlestonJew posted:Has 18 ever punched Goku? Nope ironically.
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SirKibbles posted:Nope ironically. She has kicked him! But only recently
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Nov 6, 2017 15:33
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IcePhoenix posted:The argument is that Goku never dodges her punches (which I assume is true because she even comments on this when he dodges) because they don't actually hurt, but because he wasn't thinking about it since he didn't even really notice she was there his body just dodged on its own accord. nobody in the dragon ball cast needs a special powerup to dodge freakin bulma. goku avoiding her punch was to show that he was so focused on hit's incoming attack that he even dodged bulma. it was him being tense
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Burkion posted:She has kicked him! ah ok, I haven't seen every episode of Super so I must have missed it Has Baba ever attacked Goku? Directly?
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Manatee Cannon posted:nobody in the dragon ball cast needs a special powerup to dodge freakin bulma. goku avoiding her punch was to show that he was so focused on hit's incoming attack that he even dodged bulma. it was him being tense You're completely missing the point
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IcePhoenix posted:You're completely missing the point I'm not. he was focused on hit attacking him, so when someone threw a punch he dodged it. it wasn't automatic and it sure as hell wasn't ultra instinct. goku was expecting to be attacked there
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Manatee Cannon posted:I'm not. he was focused on hit attacking him, so when someone threw a punch he dodged it. it wasn't automatic and it sure as hell wasn't ultra instinct. goku was expecting to be attacked there you're definitely missing the point
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alright then fill me in
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IcePhoenix posted:The argument is that Goku never dodges her punches (which I assume is true because she even comments on this when he dodges) because they don't actually hurt, but because he wasn't thinking about it since he didn't even really notice she was there his body just dodged on its own accord. it's basically this. Sure Goku was preparing for an attack from Hit but he had his eyes closed and was relying on sensing energy to try to predict his attacks. Bulma has a power level of like 1 so I think Goku could differentiate between an attack from Bulma and Hit, even with his eyes closed. They made a big deal out of him dodging bulma's slap because he did it completely unconsciously
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ok then I'm not missing the point and you're the one missing mine since that is literally what I was arguing against  we just disagree and nothing you said disproves my point
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Manatee Cannon posted:ok then I'm not missing the point and you're the one missing mine since that is literally what I was arguing against so you're telling me that scene had absolutely nothing to do with this thing they've been foreshadowing for years now?
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Nov 6, 2017 16:44
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I am telling you that yes
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You can tell that scene has nothing to do with ultra instinct because there wasn't thirty seconds of people talking about or a flashback to it when ultra instinct actually happened Dragonball isn't a series about subtle storytelling. On the other hand I'm sure if you asked the writers if that was foreshadowing they'd go "Uh, sure, if you want it to be" so it's a moot point
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I just want a big punch-up between Kefla and Vegito because I want to hear two incredibly smug fusions smugging at each other while they fight. To be honest my favorite part about fusions is the voice layering/twinning. It's such a cool way to make them feel kind of weird and otherworldly, and I particularly like how Granny Goku/Vegeta sound because of the differences between their voices normally.
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