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Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

tithin posted:

Wasn't Glory Girl some sort of human blob shaped monstrosity?

There's a brief mention of Panacea going up to the blob of flesh in one of the final chapters of Worm.

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Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



TIL my Worm knowledge needs refreshed after reading that. I’m super pumped but it’s been so long I need to refresh from the original. I liked it as an opening chapter and am exited to get this roller coaster going.

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007

Virigoth posted:

TIL my Worm knowledge needs refreshed after reading that. I’m super pumped but it’s been so long I need to refresh from the original. I liked it as an opening chapter and am exited to get this roller coaster going.

You haven't been chain reading it over and over like the rest of us?

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Kalas posted:

You haven't been chain reading it over and over like the rest of us?

I fell off the wagon and read other books. I'm so sorry :effort: I need to run the worm scraper and throw it on my phone to have it available. I just started Twig right before this announcement also.

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007

Virigoth posted:

I fell off the wagon and read other books. I'm so sorry :effort: I need to run the worm scraper and throw it on my phone to have it available. I just started Twig right before this announcement also.

Worm was good for 1.5 rereads myself. I'm waiting for the edited 'final' version whenever Wildbow finishes it. Between Practical Guide to Evil, Taint and Wandering Inn I've been busy enough with web serials. Twig didn't hook me (rising quality of his writing aside) as steam/biopunk is lower on my list of interests.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
I've been rereading it along with the We've Got Worm podcast, which unfortunately didn't quite make it to the end in time. If only they'd started a few weeks earlier.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Kalas posted:

Worm was good for 1.5 rereads myself. I'm waiting for the edited 'final' version whenever Wildbow finishes it. Between Practical Guide to Evil, Taint and Wandering Inn I've been busy enough with web serials. Twig didn't hook me (rising quality of his writing aside) as steam/biopunk is lower on my list of interests.

You should give twig another shot and stick it out for a few arcs. It took a minute to grow on me and get momentum, but once it got going it never stops

Kalas
Jul 27, 2007

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

You should give twig another shot and stick it out for a few arcs. It took a minute to grow on me and get momentum, but once it got going it never stops

Oh I think I got to arc 10 or so before shelving it. I'll read it someday, just low on my list, I only got so far because I was appreciating Wildbow's constantly improving writing. I liked Pact more then Twig, even with it's pacing issues.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Kalas posted:

Oh I think I got to arc 10 or so before shelving it. I'll read it someday, just low on my list, I only got so far because I was appreciating Wildbow's constantly improving writing. I liked Pact more then Twig, even with it's pacing issues.

You stopped literally pages before it goes completely batshit

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Plorkyeran posted:

I've been rereading it along with the We've Got Worm podcast, which unfortunately didn't quite make it to the end in time. If only they'd started a few weeks earlier.

I've never heard of this podcast before. What's it like?

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
Worm's too big for a reread. The opportunity cost of reading over a million words is very high.

Doctor w-rw-rw-
Jun 24, 2008
WGW is a good way to get refreshed without reading it again. Good analysis too.

Calef
Aug 21, 2007

tithin posted:

I've never heard of this podcast before. What's it like?

One guy who’s read worm before guides along another guy who hasn’t as they go through the story chapter by chapter. Most episodes run around two and a half hours, and they do pretty thorough analysis of themes/writing style/writing choices/speculation of where the story is going. A lot of the fun comes from how close of a reader Scott is (the guy who hasn’t read it before), and how much he’s able to correctly predict. It’s also paced really well, and Matt (the guy who has read it) gives a compact summary of the content of each chapter throughout the episode, interspersed with commentary and discussion from them both.

Probably the best thing about it is that it’s managed to convince a lot of people that the story isn’t really on Taylor’s side—that Taylor is kind of an unreliable narrator and makes bad decisions all the time, and that this is entirely intentional and consistent with the themes of the story.

It’s on the Daly Planet Films website, and on YouTube and a bunch of other places

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
Early episodes there were a lot of people angry about how mean Scott was about Taylor when he was actually just trying to talk about what he thought the story itself was saying about Taylor. It was pretty hilarious, and it's just made better by how many of those same people have come to accept that every single arc (except the travelers one I guess) has in-story callouts about how lovely a person Taylor is being.

I'm not at all a podcast person, but WGW consistently pulls out things I that I missed even on a reread and it's done a lot to deepen my appreciation for Worm and not mind some its flaws so much. My view on the time skip was previously that it was just a lovely way to recover from putting the end of the world too far out for the story's pacing, but they convinced me that while the time skip wasn't great, it did actually serve some purpose in the story.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
Just capped off Part 1 of my serial. Part 2 will be going up tomorrow instead of next week because I'll be out of the country then.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Armsmaster did nothing wrong

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

C'mon wildbow give us blood!

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Stairmaster posted:

C'mon wildbow give us blood!

I'd say we're about to get some

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Has anyone listened to the Worm podcast? Is the quality good?
http://audioworm.rein-online.org/

Blasphemeral
Jul 26, 2012

Three mongrel men in exchange for a party member? I found that one in the Faustian Bargain Bin.

Virigoth posted:

Has anyone listened to the Worm podcast? Is the quality good?
http://audioworm.rein-online.org/

I've heard that the audio book is god-awful, but the podcast (if it's the same podcast that I've heard of?) is actually pretty ok. They're not, as far as I'm aware, by the same people.

I've not listened to either, myself.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Blasphemeral posted:

I've heard that the audio book is god-awful, but the podcast (if it's the same podcast that I've heard of?) is actually pretty ok. They're not, as far as I'm aware, by the same people.

I've not listened to either, myself.

They're one and the same, it's referred to interchangably as the podcast / audiobook project.

Virigoth posted:

Has anyone listened to the Worm podcast? Is the quality good?
http://audioworm.rein-online.org/

It's ok, it starts off a little weak but becomes better as time goes on. There's a couple of narrators early on who just do not do their arcs justice.

It's worth what you'll pay for it though.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
I think the audiobook has some good chapters (Miss Militia interlude), a lot of okay ones, and some ones that were truly dreadful.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

well that escalated quickly

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
as fume went to get water and our protagonist went with her i groaned 'oh, god, time for the clumsy one on one character exposition about her background and her moral choices' and there it was and my eyes rolled out of their skull.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Neurosis posted:

as fume went to get water and our protagonist went with her i groaned 'oh, god, time for the clumsy one on one character exposition about her background and her moral choices' and there it was and my eyes rolled out of their skull.

Sometimes I think that while WB's prose has improved from Worm his writing hasn't really. I wonder if this is because what happens when you accrue such a loud fan base so quickly.

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010
Idk I thought it was pretty good. I do have pretty low standards for fiction though. Like I understand the dislike of 'clumsy one on one character exposition about her background and her moral choices' but not so much that it bothers me significantly, and I didn't really notice it as being an awkward expositional device while I was reading it.

Also isn't implied or near-explicitly stated that Victoria basically specialises in parahuman psychology or whatever? So she would probably be the sort of person to seek out a conversation like that.

And then there's the fact that she basically had the same type of conversation with Madison in the last prologue chapter. Maybe she just enjoys doing counterfeit therapy as a hobby? Possibly picked it up from yamada while she was a fleshblob.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

I feel like Yamada being the protagonist would have been better, but she was always my favorite Worm character so :shrug:

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010
No, I agree, a book that was just Yamada going about her day to day life as a cape counsellor in post-apocalyptic society would be fun, I think. Basically just a series of character studies with bits of background information on the state of the world(s) thrown in every now and then. Or maybe Yamada: action psychologist. Targeted psychiatric interventions are the best and most sustainable way to defeat villains for good, after all.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

A Spherical Sponge posted:

Idk I thought it was pretty good. I do have pretty low standards for fiction though. Like I understand the dislike of 'clumsy one on one character exposition about her background and her moral choices' but not so much that it bothers me significantly, and I didn't really notice it as being an awkward expositional device while I was reading it.

Also isn't implied or near-explicitly stated that Victoria basically specialises in parahuman psychology or whatever? So she would probably be the sort of person to seek out a conversation like that.

And then there's the fact that she basically had the same type of conversation with Madison in the last prologue chapter. Maybe she just enjoys doing counterfeit therapy as a hobby? Possibly picked it up from yamada while she was a fleshblob.

the conversation happening at all seemed pretty dubious - i don't think many people would be bursting at the seams to tell that one, especially to a stranger - and the way it came out felt very unnatural. i think there are other ways to tell us the salient information about what fume did and her attitude - maybe the prt had files victoria had access to, or the prt did a debrief with some former villains at the time of the clemency victoria has through her prt connections, something like that - and then we could have seen a more natural conversation between fume and victoria to move their relationship forward.

those kinds of ways to drop exposition are perhaps a bit inelegant, but sometimes they're better than breaking up what's happening in the writing itself.

A Spherical Sponge
Nov 28, 2010

Neurosis posted:

the conversation happening at all seemed pretty dubious - i don't think many people would be bursting at the seams to tell that one, especially to a stranger - and the way it came out felt very unnatural. i think there are other ways to tell us the salient information about what fume did and her attitude - maybe the prt had files victoria had access to, or the prt did a debrief with some former villains at the time of the clemency victoria has through her prt connections, something like that - and then we could have seen a more natural conversation between fume and victoria to move their relationship forward.

those kinds of ways to drop exposition are perhaps a bit inelegant, but sometimes they're better than breaking up what's happening in the writing itself.

Wait, what are you referring to here? Victoria mentions in one of the previous chapters that the pregnant woman story (including the fact that it was unintentional on fume hood's part) was something that was widely known. So the entire situation at hand is stated to be in part due to fume hood's past actions, which everyone knows about. So she goes off and she's frustrated because the whole hero team thing is falling apart because of a stupid mistake, and she feels a weird mix of guilt and frustration and so she vents to Victoria, because fume hood is an impulsive person, or at least she gives that impression. My guess is that she's assuming (correctly, since Victoria mentions it in the preceding chapters) that Victoria already knows most of the details, I think, and she's just adding context about her motivations and maybe more detail about what was going on at the time. And I mean people ranting about their problems to strangers when they're emotionally agitated is a thing that happens, relatively often I think. People love to talk about themselves.

I can accept that the way it's been set up could be seen as a kind of narrative contrivance if you're being uncharitable, but the situation itself isn't all that unbelievable to me. I can see what you mean about breaking up the flow of the writing though. It just doesn't bother me all that much because most of the writing is pretty good I think, so I don't really notice the sub-standard bits.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.







:laugh:

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013
Latest Practical Guide to Evil is pretty cool. I was wondering what the setup was going to be.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

How often does Wildbow update?

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

NecroMonster posted:

How often does Wildbow update?

tuesday saturday (sometimes thursday if he gets enough loot)

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

violent sex idiot posted:

tuesday saturday (sometimes thursday if he gets enough loot)

In fact, 1.4 is up now and some of the threads from GlowWorm are starting to come together!

Doctor w-rw-rw-
Jun 24, 2008
I set up Jetpack, so if you have a Wordpress.com account you can subscribe and get updates.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Working on Book 2 of Practical Guide now, and the wandering bard is the absolute best character

Literally playing DUN DUN DUN on a lute as the twist happens like goddamn

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Double posting to ask, re Practice Guide when does Malicia ask Catherine to kill Black? I sort of remember reading it but not specifically when it was

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Double posting to ask, re Practice Guide when does Malicia ask Catherine to kill Black? I sort of remember reading it but not specifically when it was

She doesn't.

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berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Double posting to ask, re Practice Guide when does Malicia ask Catherine to kill Black? I sort of remember reading it but not specifically when it was

If you're talking about the quote Where she says that she's betraying her best friend, she's talking about letting Nauk die

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