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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:It's kinda weird that Goku, Gohan, Trunks and now Vegeta all have unique bullshit powered-up forms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcp3tZ3XFyQ this except blue
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:22 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:It's kinda weird that Goku, Gohan, Trunks and now Vegeta all have unique bullshit powered-up forms. Like when I was watching it, I expected him to do it right then.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:22 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:It's kinda weird that Goku, Gohan, Trunks and now Vegeta all have unique bullshit powered-up forms. They also haven't explained why the slim-and-red God form is now just in Goku's repertoire. I thought the whole point was that that form was only attainable with a special ceremony, and Goku hated it because it wasn't "his" strength or achievement. Now it's just some midgrade form before you get to Blue. And not even a necessary one, because unless it happened off screen, nobody held hands and did the ceremony around Vegeta
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:23 |
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It's explained in BoG that he's absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God so now he can he can turn red god whenever because why not, it doesn't need explaining and is a bad form that is rightfully skipped over constantly anyway. You can use the "it doesn't need explaining" bit for why Veggie has access to God modes too.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:36 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's explained in BoG that he's absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God so now he can he can turn red god whenever because why not, it doesn't need explaining and is a bad form that is rightfully skipped over constantly anyway. His body "remembered" some of that power, and he was using it without turning into the red form....at least that's how the dub presented it. I've actually yet to go back and watch BoG subbed.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:40 |
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jivjov posted:They also haven't explained why the slim-and-red God form is now just in Goku's repertoire. I thought the whole point was that that form was only attainable with a special ceremony, and Goku hated it because it wasn't "his" strength or achievement. Now it's just some midgrade form before you get to Blue. And not even a necessary one, because unless it happened off screen, nobody held hands and did the ceremony around Vegeta This feels pretty easy to explain away by the God ritual just unlocking God Ki in the recipient for the first time and after that it's theirs to learn how to manipulate and use. re: Vegeta getting God Ki without a ritual, the ritual also doesn't need to be the only way that someone gets God Ki, either, given that the Gods of Destruction are presented as a merit-based office so presumably all the random GoDs were random jerks who figured it out.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 13:53 |
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There's a scene super early on, like when they're training with Whis before Frieza comes back the first time, where Vegeta and Goku punch each other equally and they both realize how to go blue at that moment.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 14:44 |
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Jiren still a bad character. His one flash of almost not terribleness was "That power almost wasn't half bad", everything else was generic boring meditation dude. His fighting style is still great though. And getting to see Vegeta power up is great, even if we know he's going to lose again so Goku's victory is even more exciting.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 14:56 |
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When I see Jiren spinning around like a top I get hype.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 14:58 |
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jivjov posted:His body "remembered" some of that power, and he was using it without turning into the red form....at least that's how the dub presented it. I've actually yet to go back and watch BoG subbed. He was tired and beaten up. They drop forms all the time when they're running out of juice. I dunno, it just doesn't feel like a stretch that once he's feeling 100% after unlocking his God Ki, he can use red again. Kanos posted:This feels pretty easy to explain away by the God ritual just unlocking God Ki in the recipient for the first time and after that it's theirs to learn how to manipulate and use. Also, just because we don't see it doesn't mean it never happened. I don't think it's especially out of character for Vegeta to get Goku to convince the others to give him the red god boost ceremony so he could spar with Goku on an equal level or just throw a huge bitch fit and demand it.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 14:59 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Also, just because we don't see it doesn't mean it never happened. I don't think it's especially out of character for Vegeta to get Goku to convince the others to give him the red god boost ceremony so he could spar with Goku on an equal level or just throw a huge bitch fit and demand it. Except the series itself said otherwise. Goku outright said that Vegeta got Blue entirely through training with Whis, without the need of the ceremony, and he found that amazing. You people need to pay more attention.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 15:05 |
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I don't think I need to remember throwaway lines from an episode of a kids tv show from 2 years ago!!!!
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 15:27 |
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Gohan will find his own path not through Gohan Blaco, but through Great Saiyaman Blanco and proving the truth of his justice until the Pride Toopers quit out of shame. Or however Kamen Rider upgrades work. Do they get new colors?
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 15:29 |
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How quickly are dub episodes uploaded to vrv?
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 15:38 |
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Jiren was surprisingly talkative in this one. Too bad his conversation partner is dumb as bricks Goku: "So you want to get stronger, right?" Jiren: "I am looking for something beyond strength" Goku: "Yeah I want to get stronger too!" Augus fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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Flytrap posted:Gohan will find his own path not through Gohan Blaco, but through Great Saiyaman Blanco and proving the truth of his justice until the Pride Toopers quit out of shame. Some do. Generally they get new colors and slightly different bits of armor for the minor form changes, and then massively different ones for the more important ones. The OG Kamen Rider went from having a blue, black and pink eyed original form, to a dark green, black and red eyed second form, and then his final form was teal, silver, black with red eyes and some new markings on his suit. Kamen Rider Stronger was the first one with a mode change, not just an upgrade that was permanent, in 1971. He got a chrome horn and a new chest piece with silver detailing instead of his normal red chest piece. From there any new upgrades tend to change the outfit to some degree with the color scheme. I'd love to see the Saiyaman outfit spontaneously change details due to a transformation though, myself.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:52 |
Augus posted:Jiren was surprisingly talkative in this one. Too bad his conversation partner is dumb as bricks lol
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:52 |
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Crabtree posted:So I'm seeing some UI looking pupils on Vegeta in that ending. Is Vegeta's SSBlue Full Power or whatever it is on a level of UI? Dumb theory and all, but its a weird visual cue to take. Judging from the fact that he's standing side-by-side with Kaioken Blue Goku, it's probably around that form's level
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:54 |
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tbf gohan's had his own unique thing since the buu saga dunno what they'd do with that visually if they were to upgrade it since it's just base gohan as is and ui already does the special aura for base form. how do they keep the two visually distinct?
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:57 |
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I do appreciate how instead of the usual "Vegeta gets a form after Goku unlocked it" status quo, the guy who's all SAIYAN PRIDE ASSHOLES gets a new super saiyan form while the guy who doesn't give a gently caress about being a saiyan and just wants to better his craft as a martial artist enters a movement-without-thought state. It's not the same old progression and makes perfect sense for the respective characters. Maybe Gohan will get his own personal new form in three arcs too, who knows.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:58 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:tbf gohan's had his own unique thing since the buu saga His hair is going to turn white.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 16:58 |
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Augus posted:Jiren was surprisingly talkative in this one. Too bad his conversation partner is dumb as bricks For real though this was hysterical. Jiren just sounded so disappointed. I love grey Not-Superman. Also, rooting for Dyspo to pull off the upset and beat Freeza, because I can't think of a funnier way for that to go.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 17:06 |
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Maybe Bandai made a batch of S.F Figuarts of Vegeta Blues with a bit deeper blue hair and thought "eh let's just tell Toei to put this in the show" and then they gave the botched figs some pupils too.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 17:35 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ-IUaIBlig So good to hear him say Kakarott again.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 18:31 |
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Just watched the latest episode. Amazing. Loved the Vegeta and Goku co op against Jiren. Vegeta
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 18:41 |
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Augus posted:Jiren was surprisingly talkative in this one. Too bad his conversation partner is dumb as bricks This was my favorite and even though it would have been inappropriate I was hoping the reaction shot would just be Jiren looking directly at the camera. My second favorite moment was when Vegeta got that hit in on Jiren how Jiren didn't seem to be in pain but seemed just genuinely shocked.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 18:47 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Come to think of it, how'd Vegeta turn blue to begin with? They haven't actually explained that at all, have they? I always just assumed he threw an even bigger tantrum off screen then he did the first time he went super sayain.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:08 |
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Fargin Icehole posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ-IUaIBlig "So....which one of you is real? You're purple, which is weird, but this other Vegeta's transparent - which is ALSO weird!" Sean Schemmel is a treasure.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:09 |
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Sean got a lot better when he was allowed to play goku as a dumb fighting hillbilly instead of generic hero guy
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:11 |
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Oh, I dunno, he's pretty good at both roles. I've been skimming through some of the highlights from Kai, and he's really good and really goddamn heroic when he's showing up to save the day from Nappa, the Ginyus, Freeza.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:13 |
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goku only gets a few chances to be a real idiot in z. not much downtime there
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:16 |
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The Kai version of the Super Saiyan speech was really well done.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:18 |
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I remember the beginning of this arc how so many people were like “wow Goku is going evil he’s so crazy about battle” and this arc has done a fine job of reinforcing that nope Goku is just dumb and doesn’t think about things before fighting stuff
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:19 |
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Ammat The Ankh posted:It was pretty clear they saved their entire animation budget this episode for Vegeta. Not really a question of budget, Takahashi did the second half and he’s just a stronger supervisor who draws real good.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:30 |
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I'm pretty sure the evil Goku talk was tongue in cheek.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:30 |
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Hjalmar posted:there's Bluetwo and then there's Mega Bluetwo X & Mega Bluetwo Y I can't wait for Gohan to attain the power of Super Saiyan Pikablue.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:33 |
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Yeah I don't think anyone was saying Goku was gonna turn evil so much that the early stuff of the arc kinda emphasised how Goku's naivety and fight obsession can be equal parts beneficial and dangerous to those around him or even reality at large.
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:35 |
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I am talking about internet people not the anime itself
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:41 |
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vegeta is gonna beat jiren because goku ruined the multiverse and must pay
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:42 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 10:19 |
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I love Vegeta and I love this episode and I love Super
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# ? Jan 7, 2018 19:53 |