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I finished The Box Man by Kobo Abe and I'm very confused but it was cool. I liked the part about dreaming you're a fish the best.
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Ordered the Divine Comedy as per OP's recommendation on a whim and I didn't even realize it was poetry Reading translated poetry is pretty dumb gently caress you OP Thankfully I also got the Master and Margarita in the original Russian in the same order so I'll have something good to read in its original language E: not OP I guess, the 6th reply also not serious Maybe it doesn't matter as much as reading e.g. Pushkin in English, I do think you lose a huge amount there because the rhyme and meter is so strict feelix fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 01:26
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I am very well informed and smart and have extremely strong opinions about reading poetry in translation, despite being unaware that one of the most famous poems of all time was a poem
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Jan 17, 2018 02:31
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feelix posted:Ordered the Divine Comedy as per OP's recommendation on a whim and I didn't even realize it was poetry you're gonna be a lot madder when you start reading it and realize there arent even any jokes
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Jan 17, 2018 03:45
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feelix posted:Ordered the Divine Comedy as per OP's recommendation on a whim and I didn't even realize it was poetry Gass' essay "to a young man charged with possession of the classics" comes inevitably to mind. This fuckin' guy actually bought Dante somehow without knowing. Like, there's the Iliad, fuckin' Shakespeare, and the Comedy. It's only the most famous poem ever written, it invented the Italian language, it's on the very shortest list of the most important artistic works in human history, but it's translated poetry gently caress you OP.
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Jan 17, 2018 04:02
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OK I'll return it I'm not worthy thanks for the advice
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I only wanted to read it because a lot of video and tabletop game settings are based on it but it's probably not as good as Starship Troopers anyway
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Bideogayms are art
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feelix posted:I only wanted to read it because a lot of video and tabletop game settings are based on it but it's probably not as good as Starship Troopers anyway youre trying too hard, if you wanted to troll this thread you should have just said that you dont understand the difference between lit and genre fic and we'd have been arguing with each other for two pages, min derp posted:Bideogayms are art to be fair the Inferno game takes a 14k line piece of medieval poetry - an extended meditation upon sin, the human condition and the necessity of salvation - and makes it into a game where you use a bone-scythe to slay giant cleopatra while she births demonic cherubim from her nipple-mouths. that really does border on art, even if only accidentally chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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If you don't think video games are unequivocally art, you really are a clueless out-of-touch snob that's incapable of critical thinking.
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feelix posted:If you don't think video games are unequivocally art, you really are a clueless out-of-touch snob that's incapable of critical thinking. Guess what pal: I am all of those things
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(mournful but defiant, like a modern-day accomplice of spartacus): i am dumb as poo poo
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the only written media that is still art in 2k18 are japanese light novels where the protagonist is trapped in a parallel world driven by fantasy rpg tropes
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Jan 17, 2018 06:30
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The inferno is no more about sin than the trial is about bureaucracy
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What's more video games such as super Mario Bros 3 create a moment of recognition of the Absolute, and the distillation of the Universal Will into pure Ideas and as such, are art
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feelix posted:If you don't think video games are unequivocally art, you really are a clueless out-of-touch snob that's incapable of critical thinking. Not "that", "who"
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feelix posted:If you don't think video games are unequivocally art, you really are a clueless out-of-touch snob that's incapable of critical thinking. Yeah but on the plus side I'm not an adult who plays league of legends
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Jan 17, 2018 11:23
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imagine trying to troll a thread full of trolls
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I should move this thread to Games just to see what happens
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feelix posted:If you don't think video games are unequivocally art, you really are a clueless out-of-touch snob that's incapable of critical thinking. Videogames aren't unequivocally art. Some videogames are, sure. However, something being considered art doesn't mean it's good. Most art sucks.
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True art is a mirror into ones soul, an exploration of personal subjectivity. One should learn more about oneself through the experience. For that reason hentai games are art for in choosing a waifu you discover the truth of yourself
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my girlfriend got super mario odyssey and yesterday i watched her use a haunted hat to mind-control a t. rex into slaughtering a bunch of colorful hedgehogs. that's art as hell
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chernobyl kinsman posted:my girlfriend got super mario odyssey and yesterday i watched her use a haunted hat to mind-control a t. rex into slaughtering a bunch of colorful hedgehogs. that's art as hell Not since Dostoyevsky has there been as unflinching a portrait into the nature of identity
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfjLRuE1CLw&t=522s
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*in a werner herzog voice* One is forced to ask oneself, when Mario throws his hat at a goomba, is he still Mario? Is there an inherent essence of mario that has still has an individual identity within the goomba, or has the loss of a separate physical form also meant the loss of the essential being we recognize as mario
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Mel Mudkiper posted:*in a werner herzog voice* He possesses tall, business-suited people with normal proportions while still being a tiny cartoon man, there's definitely some Baudrillard in there
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"In one sense, it's clear that we do not want to live the sort of lives that are depicted in most stories that human authors have written so far. Think of the truly great stories, the ones that have become legendary for being the very best of the best of their genre: The Iliiad, [sic] Romeo and Juliet, The Godfather, Watchmen, Planescape: Torment, the second season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or that ending in Tsukihime. Is there a single story on the list that isn't tragic?"
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Jan 17, 2018 14:43
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Mel Mudkiper posted:True art is a mirror into ones soul, an exploration of personal subjectivity. One should learn more about oneself through the experience. Wrong.
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CestMoi posted:Wrong. says the man who has not yet looked inside himself and found who to date in Persona 5
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Jan 17, 2018 14:49
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The correct answer is that it does not matter, for the beloved is always God.
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CestMoi posted:The correct answer is that it does not matter, for the beloved is always God. incorrect, for God is dead like literally you kill him in those games 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:incorrect, for God is dead quote:The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him -- you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.
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I have heard there are many overlaps between the Team Fortress 2 lore comics and the Iliad
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what is this tripe no way you could murder god with a knife. It doesn't have nearly enough dps for his armor class.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:what is this tripe Someone's not casting matarukaja or marakunda enough
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good posts, all
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I wish someone would cast mamudoon on this thread
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fridge corn posted:The collection is called labyrinths I was really confused at first because I had heard that Labyrinths by Borges was really good, then I got a collection of his and was like "poo poo, this collection doesn't have Labyrinths", but Labyrinths IS the collection. Or is within the collection. So even the understanding of the composition of the collection is in itself labyrinthine.
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Im reading paradise lost, i like how much of the beginning is just a laundry list of ominous demon names.
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draculatreefores posted:I was really confused at first because I had heard that Labyrinths by Borges was really good, then I got a collection of his and was like "poo poo, this collection doesn't have Labyrinths", but Labyrinths IS the collection. Or is within the collection. So even the understanding of the composition of the collection is in itself labyrinthine. I'm imagining a labyrinth composed of a tunnel with a single bend and no fork, and our intrepid Theseus spinning in place at the entrance until he gets dizzy and falls over.
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