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CommonShore posted:not spaz around. Defenestrategy posted:d don't just spaz out But the dying cockroach is my super move.  spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 18, 2019 |
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spacetoaster posted:But the dying cockroach is my super move. Don't forget to breathe. That's something a lot of people have difficulty with when first starting out. Good luck on your journey! It's a hell of a trip.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:07
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spacetoaster posted:But the dying cockroach is my super move. 5/3/1 for MMA is what you're looking for. Don't be surprised if your gains slow down a *lot* with the addition of BJJ. If you're going to do both in the same day, lifting before BJJ can work, but BJJ before lifting will be disappointing and/or dangerous. Don't forget to adjust your nutrition, sleep, etc. to account for the increased activity. For flexibility, some people seem to really like Yoga for BJJ, or there's Joe DeFranco's Limber 11 and Simple 6, or just focus on whatever happens to be tight. IMO, the most dangerous part of BJJ training at most places is people with weak breakfall skills trying to train takedowns. Developing good breakfall skills (find an experienced Judo guy to teach you if you can) will go a long way towards keeping you safe on the mat, and statistically speaking, it's the most likely thing from BJJ that you'll ever use in real life.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:29
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Nestharken posted:5/3/1 for MMA is what you're looking for. Don't be surprised if your gains slow down a *lot* with the addition of BJJ. If you're going to do both in the same day, lifting before BJJ can work, but BJJ before lifting will be disappointing and/or dangerous. Don't forget to adjust your nutrition, sleep, etc. to account for the increased activity. Thanks for the links. Right now I think I just need to condition myself a bit. All of my muscles are weak/sore, even my freaking fingers. It feels really good to work this hard. But I know I'm going to have to settle into a routine with rest/recovery. That's why I was asking earlier about how many times a week I should do it. 2 or 3 seems about right to allow me to be in the gym and have off days. My 9 year old son does it 5/6 days a week for 2 hour sessions. He's a wild man though.
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Jan 26, 2018 22:48
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Beside the age old saying 'tap early, tap often' I also suggest if you think you need time to recover or heal injuries take the time. It's a marathon not a race. I've had to stop numerous times over the past 2 years and it was worth it. Don't want to cause more of an injury and be out even longer Also, enjoy it and have fun! Good luck
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Jan 26, 2018 22:50
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spacetoaster posted:Right now I think I just need to condition myself a bit. All of my muscles are weak/sore, even my freaking fingers. It feels really good to work this hard. But I know I'm going to have to settle into a routine with rest/recovery. That's why I was asking earlier about how many times a week I should do it. 2 or 3 seems about right to allow me to be in the gym and have off days. There's nothing that condition you for grappling other than grappling. You're moving your body in ways you've never done before, using different muscles, and your fingers are sore from holding onto grips for dear life. As you get more comfortable the soreness will die down a bit because you'll stop trying to muscle out of bad positions or be holding on with your death grip. Turkish getups, kettle bell swings, deadlifts and squats are all great compound lifts that translate over to jiu jitsu.
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Jan 27, 2018 00:47
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Nestharken posted:IMO, the most dangerous part of BJJ training at most places is people with weak breakfall skills trying to train takedowns. Developing good breakfall skills (find an experienced Judo guy to teach you if you can) will go a long way towards keeping you safe on the mat, and statistically speaking, it's the most likely thing from BJJ that you'll ever use in real life. I can carry a poo poo ton of groceries inside at once now, I use that all the time.
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Jan 27, 2018 01:00
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Digital Jedi posted:Just got my shirt in the mail. Ordered it on 1-16 and 10 days seems fast from Australia to Chicago. Nice, good to hear! butros posted:Looking forward to my South American Ground Karate patch The patches that aren't going out with shirts are just going through regular letter post with a bit of padding, so I hope they arrive okay.  spacetoaster posted:Also, is it something that leads to an inordinate amount of injuries (as opposed to dad basketball or something)? Some people have told me stuff like: "Everyone I know who does BJJ has had multiple surgeries because of injuries" I imagine the injury rate is pretty low overall, but it'll be higher for your first year or two of training. After awhile, once you know your limits and understand the subs being used on you, you'll be fine. I haven't had an injury bad enough to sideline me in probably 4 years now.
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Jan 27, 2018 01:22
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:I imagine the injury rate is pretty low overall, but it'll be higher for your first year or two of training. After awhile, once you know your limits and understand the subs being used on you, you'll be fine. I haven't had an injury bad enough to sideline me in probably 4 years now. I just looked up the statistics, and BJJ ranks as one of the safest martial arts you can do.
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Jan 27, 2018 01:38
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From my experience, cardio is more important than weightlifting. Weightlifting and strength are great but having sustained energy to use those muscles is key otherwise their useless. edit: create space and breath. Close your elbows. Never stay flat and don't push. Michael Transactions fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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Jan 27, 2018 02:06
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vaginal facsimile posted:From my experience, cardio is more important than weightlifting. Weightlifting and strength are great but having sustained energy to use those muscles is key otherwise their useless. I agree. Speaking personally when I'm strong I tend to use techniques and positions that allow me to overpower opponents. I do this because overpowering someone feels good to the caveman part of my brain. Works great too, as long as my partner isn't stronger than me or utilizing better technique. When I'm not strong I have nothing but technique, and my grappling reflects it. When I'm fit but not strong I feel like I can chain techniques continuously and indefinitely, rather than the usual brief scramble to stable position followed by 15-30 seconds of mutual breath-catching. Plus breathing calmly while my partner wheezes like an asthmatic and makes that face like they just wish you'd take a break feels even better than overpowering them.
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Jan 27, 2018 03:52
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Is there a muay thai thread? I'm thinking of trying it along with continuing doing bjj. Anyone practice it before?
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Jan 28, 2018 04:01
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vaginal facsimile posted:Is there a muay thai thread? I'm thinking of trying it along with continuing doing bjj. Anyone practice it before? I think the Ask/Tell thread about martial arts might be the best you're gonna get. Muay Thai is great, do it.
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Jan 28, 2018 04:02
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JaySB posted:I think the Ask/Tell thread about martial arts might be the best you're gonna get. yeah. it's basically everyone in this forum just in that thread for martial arts in general. it's good. also do mt. it's fun and cool.
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Jan 28, 2018 04:07
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my nose is v sore, i have a busted lip and red cuts or something on my face from rolling tonight
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Jan 30, 2018 02:58
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I took a thumb to the eye yesterday and was bleeding tears like Le Chiffre in Casino Royale and half my eye is completely blood shot.
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Jan 30, 2018 04:03
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spacetoaster posted:Is this the BJJ thread? I'll pretend it is. All my chronic injuries are from my weightlifting days and I think it's almost more certain you're going to need surgery from years of weightlifting than from years of grappling BUT it's a contact sport and poo poo happens and practicing any athletic activity at a high level is a recipe for a hosed up body down the line. That said, tap early, tap often. If you don't know what you're doing in a positon don't spazz out of it, if you feel like you're in a weird position, don't be afriad to tap, concede passes rather than maintain a biomechanically awful position, etc. All of the injuries I've seen in the gym tend to be the fault of the person who was injured minus one chick's blown ACL from her partner jumping guard during randori.
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Jan 30, 2018 05:39
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I agree with Danaher when he was speaking to Rogan, the worst injuries you see are from people attempting to jump guard and only making it halfway. There is the odd heel hook taken too far, but you need to trust the people you roll with aren't trying to hurt you. If they are you need to speak up or go to a gym with a better culture.
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Jan 30, 2018 06:12
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vaginal facsimile posted:edit: create space and breath. Close your elbows. Never stay flat and don't push. Erm... When you're on the bottom, a lot of your tools to escape are going to include some sort of push. Maybe not in a "push your arms straight out against their chest" sort of thing, but pushes nonetheless. Edit: because one of the major mistakes that new people do is hold on for dear life when they are on the bottom, which is the exact opposite you want to do (and are helping the top guy implement his game to boot)!
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Jan 30, 2018 08:03
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WayneCampbell posted:All my chronic injuries are from my weightlifting days and I think it's almost more certain you're going to need surgery from years of weightlifting than from years of grappling BUT it's a contact sport and poo poo happens and practicing any athletic activity at a high level is a recipe for a hosed up body down the line. I hurt a BJJ guy last week who had stopped by the sambo club to train because I had his toes curled -- kinda like a toe hold, but just with one hand, I like the grip because it gives you good leverage when controlling the legs to work with while passing half guard, threatening a knee bar or rolling toe hold, that kind of thing -- and he didn't like the unfamiliar position and tried to basically explode with a sprawl to break the grip, essentially blasting himself into a toe hold. There was a huge cracking sound that grossed everyone out and that was the end of his night. I talked to him a little afterwards and I didn't want to scold a guy who just got injured, but I was like, dude, if you're in an unfamiliar position, just ask what to do, don't start going as fast and hard as you can because you don't like it. He said that he knew I was threatening some kind of leg attack but he didn't know what, and just wanted to get out of it. Part of me was wondering why he's bothering to come cross train at a sambo gym if he's so terrified of someone attacking his legs. Like, sure, you might get tapped, but at least then you'd have learned something. I've seen my coach go absolutely ballistic after seeing someone try to explosively roll out of a leg control position. Just screaming at them "HAVE I EVERY TAUGHT YOU TO ESCAPE THAT WAY" over and over until they were on the verge of tears, because he hates seeing students get hurt and being safe is a big part of the gym culture. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Drewjitsu posted:Edit: because one of the major mistakes that new people do is hold on for dear life when they are on the bottom, which is the exact opposite you want to do (and are helping the top guy implement his game to boot)! Yeah, I'm finding that out. Also, I'm freaking starving after doing a 1 1/2 hour class.
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Jan 30, 2018 17:09
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Just watched the first three matches of ACB JJ 10 and it is sooo loving good. https://youtu.be/3FQa3pHbGys
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Jan 31, 2018 01:45
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I need to get better at knowing submissions. I've been doing well getting into full mount but don't know many submissions from it. I tend to do armbars and stuff that blue belts could probably see coming a mile away lol
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Jan 31, 2018 04:21
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vaginal facsimile posted:I need to get better at knowing submissions. I've been doing well getting into full mount but don't know many submissions from it. I tend to do armbars and stuff that blue belts could probably see coming a mile away lol I've been trying to get a Kimura from there, but my base seems too far forward most of the time, I'll keep working it. A cross collar choke can also be good from mount in the gi.
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Jan 31, 2018 04:24
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vaginal facsimile posted:I need to get better at knowing submissions. I've been doing well getting into full mount but don't know many submissions from it. I tend to do armbars and stuff that blue belts could probably see coming a mile away lol You don't need anything fancy. The americana - arm bar attack is really good if you have tight technique. But likely you just need to be patient. If you have mount just focus on being heavy, maintaining position, and making your opponent uncomfortable. If you do that well, he'll give you an opening.
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Jan 31, 2018 04:32
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vaginal facsimile posted:I need to get better at knowing submissions. I've been doing well getting into full mount but don't know many submissions from it. I tend to do armbars and stuff that blue belts could probably see coming a mile away lol Gi or no gi? Your attacks in mount are basically limited to the cross choke, ezekiel, arm bar and americana. Mounted triangle if you're slick too which opens up a whole world of follow ups.
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Jan 31, 2018 07:13
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You can finish a head an arm from there if you know what you're doing, or have them distracted while they defend and you can move to side control to get your legs into it.
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Jan 31, 2018 17:07
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JaySB posted:Gi or no gi? Your attacks in mount are basically limited to the cross choke, ezekiel, arm bar and americana. Mounted triangle if you're slick too which opens up a whole world of follow ups. Gi. Yeah was trying to do a cross collar but hosed it up 😂
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If you are in gi, pressure him until you can force him into or he gives up technical mount. Then you can attack a half nelson choke with their collar, and also start wrapping your lapel around his face and eyes to distract him. Both of these attacks force him to move his arms, and the second he does that take a deep grip on the arm bar and secure by grabbing your own collar. Finish at your leisure.
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Jan 31, 2018 20:17
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Another dumb question from ne: is the belt length one size up then what your gi is? For instance, if you are an A5, would the belt be A6? or does it matter. Sorry in advanced.
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Feb 1, 2018 19:07
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The A-sizing isn't consistent between brands, but in general, you want to get the shortest belt you can.
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Feb 1, 2018 22:11
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There was a press conference for Sakuraba's new team grappling thing. It's in Japanese and I just watched some snippets but I was able to glean that the first competition is on April 11th and closed guard and heel hooks are both banned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH0y369exGY
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Feb 1, 2018 22:17
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Dave Grool posted:closed guard and heel hooks are both banned. weird decision
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Feb 1, 2018 22:30
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Dave Grool posted:closed guard and heel hooks are both banned. I cannot believe Sakuraba and Josh would make such a dumb rule.
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Feb 2, 2018 00:42
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The logic was something about Muay Thai without elbows and clinching is to K-1 as jiu jitsu without closed guard and heel hooks is to this thing. I don't know why that is supposed to be a good thing. e: Like this: 
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Neon Belly posted:The A-sizing isn't consistent between brands, but in general, you want to get the shortest belt you can. This. I have a belt 1 sixe too big and its been used against me. I probably should just get a different belt tbh.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:25
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Can you win by pin? If so, I guess it would defeat the purpose if you let yourself go on your back.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:34
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Odddzy posted:Can you win by pin? If so, I guess it would defeat the purpose if you let yourself go on your back. I thought it was 10 minute sub only. Winner moves on loser drops, draws eliminate both until one team is remaining? Google fu says that Sakuraba doesn't want heel hooks because chance for injury is high with the hold, I guess closed guard is to make sure a competitor can't stall out and make matches "boring" for viewers at home. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Feb 2, 2018 |
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Dave Grool posted:There was a press conference for Sakuraba's new team grappling thing. It's in Japanese and I just watched some snippets but I was able to glean that the first competition is on April 11th and closed guard and heel hooks are both banned. Bit odd to do it on a Wednesday but I guess 
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