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garfield hentai posted:Just got my paint in from thewarstore - about a week from the day I placed the order. Could have been better, could have been worse. One of the paints was backordered since I didn't notice the different "Usually ships next day" and "Usually ships between 1-3 days" text. There's no way that paint without primer on slick plastic isn't going to look like poo poo
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Does your place have a backyard or alley or parking lot? You pretty much always want to prime when painting, but spraycans are best for that so you dont need to lug your airbrush setup outside.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:28
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Water based polyurethane primers like Vallejo and Badger Stynylrez are fine for priming indoors (also I suspect that vallejo mecha color is essentially colored primer to some degree since they advertise it as having durability)
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Feb 12, 2018 21:33
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Yeah I'm not too worried about the primer, it's the Vallejo Mecha stuff so it's water based acrylic. I don't have any issues with using it, I was just asking because the marketing copy makes it seem like it's completely unnecessary unless you're trying to go from dark to bright colors. I've seen a few other recommendations for that floor polish for gloss coating. Would that be okay to use in an airbrush? I'm assuming smell/fumes wouldn't be an issue since it's designed for smearing all over your floors inside. garfield hentai fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Feb 12, 2018 21:38
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You can technically paint without primer, but it takes a bunch more coats + if you try to paint two different color unprimed parts into one color they will basically never match up. Pledge Future isn't actually a floor wax, but an acrylic hardener that is really durable, you can put pretty much anything on top of it. So it's very nice for sealing before panel lining and weathering.
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Feb 12, 2018 21:43
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I'm still going to do it anyways, I'm planning on preshading and I'm assuming the contrast between grey primer + black shading will stand out a lot better behind the top paint. More than anything I was curious if "this paint adheres so well you don't even need primer!" was a cool new game changing feature or if it was just a marketing spin on "it won't be great but technically it'll work I guess". Ordering the pledge (lol all the related purchases are scale model related) and some of the Tamiya enamel wash off Amazon. Can I still at least use the Mecha color matte varnish on its own as a top coat or are the matt/gloss varnishes pretty much useless? garfield hentai fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Feb 12, 2018 21:50
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That's exactly what I do if I want a matte coat.
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Feb 12, 2018 22:06
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Nice so it's not a total loss. I guess I'll mix in the gloss varnish with the steel paint for the inner frame (I like detailing the pistons and all that but I don't think I'll be panel lining it so I won't need a protective layer) and then use the matte on its own as a topcoat for the armor then.
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Feb 12, 2018 23:08
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You can use acrylic varnishes on bare plastic, but the result will never look as good as a painted and varnished surface. It's also a bit more fragile, though how much this matters correlates directly with how much you enjoy swooshing your gundams around and making beam saber noises with your mouth. So, quite a bit in most cases.
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Feb 13, 2018 02:18
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By "on its own" I meant doing a top layer of just the matte varnish as opposed to mixing it in with paint. So for inner frame I'd go primer > paint mixed with gloss varnish, while for the outer armor I'd go primer > preshade > main color > floor polish > panel lining wash stuff > matte varnish. I feel like having the frame glossy and the armor matte might make the frame pop a little more.
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Feb 13, 2018 03:38
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I can't speak for the mecha line but k ow that model air is really easy to work with, but it's side effect is that it will scratch incredibly easy without a decent top coat. Once that topcoat is on though it's golden.
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Feb 13, 2018 04:33
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The whole gimmick of the Mecha line is that it ostensibly won't scratch. I'll report in once I get this going, if I can get it to turn out nice and sturdy anyone can.
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Feb 13, 2018 04:42
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I've used both and I can confirm that the mech air line does seem more scratch resistance. It's not perfect, but it's a definite improvement. Also everyone, use pledge, I'll have to replace my current bottle soon but the drat thing's lasted over 5 years. It's a fantastic product.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:55
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Do you thin the Pledge or just spray it through as is? Would the Vallejo airbrush thinner work since it's acrylic?
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Feb 13, 2018 17:00
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Airbrush it straight. e: Make sure to clean well afterward because you don't want it to dry in your brush. That Gobbo fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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Feb 13, 2018 17:01
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What PSI are people spraying it at? 25-ish like other paint?
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Feb 13, 2018 17:15
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mikeycp posted:What PSI are people spraying it at? 25-ish like other paint? I'm consistently reading 30psi on everything I'm looking up but I've never used a airbrush and won't know until mine gets delivered tomorrow so 
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Feb 13, 2018 19:10
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Swanny got his domain back, here's the ultimate Future reference page.
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Feb 13, 2018 20:10
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mikeycp posted:What PSI are people spraying it at? 25-ish like other paint? 15-20 Psi has worked for me for model air. Gives a good cover and control of rate of paint. Tamiya primer I'll bump up to about 25-30.
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Feb 13, 2018 20:17
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tenderjerk posted:I'm consistently reading 30psi on everything I'm looking up but I've never used a airbrush and won't know until mine gets delivered tomorrow so I haven't had a chance to try myself yet but I think a lot of it depends on the paint. For example with the Vallejo stuff I got, I read a lot of people complain that it's garbage that doesn't work, but then after they dialed it down from 30 to 15-20ish it worked a lot better (apparently the air pressure was so high that paint would dry out before it even hit the plastic or something? I forget the exact explanation). Then people with the same company's primer reported having to do higher PSIs to get it not to clump. Personally I'm gonna start on 20 psi on some old junk runners and see how things look.
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Feb 14, 2018 14:52
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That's exactly right. Too high a pressure and you can have the paint dry before it hits the part. This also happens by spraying too far from the piece. It's basically just messing around with setting to find out what works. A good start would be to get a sheet of gloss cardboard or paper and experiment with different distances and to practice trigger control on your airbrush. That way you'll find the limits of distance and trigger pull to not apply too much or too little paint.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:13
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Plastic spoons are another popular test item.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:14
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What's the best way to paint tiny recesses and edges? I'm assuming a brush but wouldn't it be a huge pain to clean up mistakes? Would it be simpler (generally) to mask and spray? Example, yellow bits here:
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Feb 14, 2018 20:29
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Marx Headroom posted:What's the best way to paint tiny recesses and edges? I'm assuming a brush but wouldn't it be a huge pain to clean up mistakes? Would it be simpler (generally) to mask and spray? Example, yellow bits here: That small you might consider using a marker.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:31
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Getting a sheet of styrene is good too. It's probably better than paper or cardboard to use as a practice surface.
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Marx Headroom posted:What's the best way to paint tiny recesses and edges? I'm assuming a brush but wouldn't it be a huge pain to clean up mistakes? Would it be simpler (generally) to mask and spray? Example, yellow bits here: For something that small, i'd paint it before It went in or disassemble and paint. Symetrique posted:Getting a sheet of styrene is good too. It's probably better than paper or cardboard to use as a practice surface. You know, When I wrote that last piece, I had a styrene sheet right in front of me and didn't think to even say that.
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Feb 14, 2018 20:52
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Bought a new kit for my girlfriend. She wanted.... this: I never in a million years would have thought I'd ever buy something like this.
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Monaghan posted:Bought a new kit for my girlfriend. She wanted.... this: You have good taste in girlfriends. 
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Feb 15, 2018 17:23
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Has she seen the anime? Baselard was pretty great in the show. the F.A.Girl youtube channel put out a video about customizing a Baselard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBeAYGv9KA
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Feb 15, 2018 17:39
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Guy Goodbody posted:Has she seen the anime? Baselard was pretty great in the show. I'm versed enough in Engrish that I can easily guess how they meant that to be pronounced but I just wanna say "base lard".
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Feb 15, 2018 18:37
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Guy Goodbody posted:Has she seen the anime? Baselard was pretty great in the show. No she isn't really into anime. She just like the Frame arm girls stuff because she thinks they're cute. She also likes how their more complicated than an hg kit. I'll be finishing her "girly" mg dom this weekend. I'll post pictures of it. I've nicknamed her kits the "pretty-pretty princess" line of gundam models.
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it's really cool when a bunch of nerds who build plastic kits of robots wanna try to talk poo poo about girls' preference in model kits and act like they're above it 
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Caitlin posted:it's really cool when a bunch of nerds who build plastic kits of robots wanna try to talk poo poo about girls' preference in model kits and act like they're above it It's also cool when people read poo poo that isn't there. Frame arms girls is a line in which there's water slide decals that allow the kits to have striped panties. I find them kinda creepy. My girlfriend likes them, so whatever. Also the pretty pretty princess line is just a mutual joke that we had. She calls me goofy for weathering and poo poo. Monaghan fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 15, 2018 |
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Feb 15, 2018 20:20
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Monaghan posted:It's also cool when people read poo poo that isn't there. Canonically, they're wearing bodysuits.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:23
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On a less hostile note, it's nice that all the Frame Arms and Frame Arms Girls equipment is interchangeable.
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Feb 15, 2018 20:40
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Do any of the Frames Arm Girls wear pants? A heavy armored unit with like cargo pants full of missiles would be pretty dope.
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Feb 15, 2018 21:13
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Guy Goodbody posted:Canonically, they're wearing bodysuits. Canonically, it's creepy pandering to gross nerds
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Improbable Lobster posted:Canonically, it's creepy pandering to gross nerds Welcome to anime.
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Feb 16, 2018 04:53
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Improbable Lobster posted:Canonically, it's creepy pandering to gross nerds Canonically, you're the only one having a weird screeching meltdown fit.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Canonically, you're the only one having a weird screeching meltdown fit. Sorry I insulted your dolls for perverts. Now if you'll excuse me I have to get back assembling my robot dolls.
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