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Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I've read the first book all the way through, and it's bad.

Counterpoint: I've read all of the Inheritance trilogy, and it's good.

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
It's as bad as the Inheritance Cycle.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

Demon Cycle is consistent enough (if pulpy) all the way through.
It is consistently terrible the entire way through, yes.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

It sucks that there aren't any actual 'pulpy' books anymore and that people just use that word on the latest fantasy trash to denote its badness

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I like to think of Jack Vance as the thinking man's pulp author.

But really, all true pulp is thinking man's pulp

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

I mean it has a lot of one dimensional characters, obvious tropes, a number of big action scenes, and average prose; what term would you use?

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

I mean it has a lot of one dimensional characters, obvious tropes, a number of big action scenes, and average prose; what term would you use?

Fantasy

Time Cowboy
Nov 4, 2007

But Tarzan... The strangest thing has happened! I'm as bare... as the day I was born!

Big Bad Beetleborg posted:

I mean it has a lot of one dimensional characters, obvious tropes, a number of big action scenes, and average prose; what term would you use?

Most books on the best-seller list.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


The Elementals
Was a spooky ride

unstucker
Jan 4, 2018
Started reading "The Half-Made World" by Felix Gilman, which had been recomended in this thread. It's pretty good at first sight)

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Are there any books with a more serious take on the Point of View Gun from Hitchhiker's Guide?

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

cult member at airport posted:

Are there any books with a more serious take on the Point of View Gun from Hitchhiker's Guide?

Idk about books but there's a character in the movie Strange Days who uses that effect in the worst possible way.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I've got a couple of requests:

I think this one is a long-shot, but is there anything out there kind of like Library at Mount Char?

Maybe also a long-shot, I'm looking for a book that's similar to the weirder supernatural/absurd/sinister parts of Twin Peaks. I've asked elsewhere and had Wayward Pines suggested a couple of times, but those books didn't really fit what I was looking for.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

MockingQuantum posted:

Maybe also a long-shot, I'm looking for a book that's similar to the weirder supernatural/absurd/sinister parts of Twin Peaks. I've asked elsewhere and had Wayward Pines suggested a couple of times, but those books didn't really fit what I was looking for.

Jeffrey Ford's The Shadow Year

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



chernobyl kinsman posted:

Jeffrey Ford's The Shadow Year

Cool, I read his Twilight Pariah earlier this year and enjoyed it, so I'm all for that recommendation.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

Bonus.
Looking for books about early 20th century Sicilian history.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

MockingQuantum posted:

I've got a couple of requests:

I think this one is a long-shot, but is there anything out there kind of like Library at Mount Char?

The Gormenghast books perhaps (in the sense that they're about an isolated society of people driven by weird obsessions).

Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

Looking for sci-fi that's dark/violent/unsettling -- I suppose horror/sci-fi. Something like I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream or maybe Surface Detail. Bonus points for hard sci-fi -- and I must say I have little interest in military sci-fi.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for sci-fi that's dark/violent/unsettling -- I suppose horror/sci-fi. Something like I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream or maybe Surface Detail. Bonus points for hard sci-fi -- and I must say I have little interest in military sci-fi.

It seems to come up every other page, but are you familiar with Blindsight by Peter Watts? Starfish could work, as well.

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
Currently about halfway through Solar Bones by Mike McCormack and, so far, it's every bit as good as the hype suggested. Having a really hard time putting it down.

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Looking for some quality/fun fiction books about the mafia or mob, that aren't Puzo or Elmore Leonard.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Conrad_Birdie posted:

Looking for some quality/fun fiction books about the mafia or mob, that aren't Puzo or Elmore Leonard.

James Ellroy, start with Black Dahlia, folllow through with the rest of the LA Quartet, continue with the Underworld USA Trilogy. That should take a couple of months.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Conrad_Birdie posted:

Looking for some quality/fun fiction books about the mafia or mob, that aren't Puzo or Elmore Leonard.

Check out Leonardo Sciascia.

If you'd rather have comedy (and can tolerate some heavy-handed Italian stereotypes), Jimmy Breslin's The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight.

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
Those all sound like great recommendations and exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for! Thanks!!

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Conrad_Birdie posted:

Looking for some quality/fun fiction books about the mafia or mob, that aren't Puzo or Elmore Leonard.

Josh Bazell's Beat the Reaper. It might lean a little less mafia, but it's definitely a fun read

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord
Someone here recommended Guthrie's The Way West quite a ways back. I'm almost done with it and I want to thank you. It's been a great western; a gripping story and written very well.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
Can anyone recommend some books where the plot is that cliche joy of two people who hate each being forced to work together, similar to C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy? Protagonist and antagonist team up against a worse villain, or to survive in a hostile situation, etc.

Genre isn't really important (as long as it isn't an alt-history what-if-nazis-were-cool-and-good wankfest.)

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

coolusername posted:

Can anyone recommend some books where the plot is that cliche joy of two people who hate each being forced to work together, similar to C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy? Protagonist and antagonist team up against a worse villain, or to survive in a hostile situation, etc.

Genre isn't really important (as long as it isn't an alt-history what-if-nazis-were-cool-and-good wankfest.)

"Hate' might be a strong word and the relationship changes over time but if you just mean initial opposition (as per the standard cliche) then

Another Fine Myth by Robert Asprin

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

coolusername posted:

Can anyone recommend some books where the plot is that cliche joy of two people who hate each being forced to work together, similar to C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy? Protagonist and antagonist team up against a worse villain, or to survive in a hostile situation, etc.

Genre isn't really important (as long as it isn't an alt-history what-if-nazis-were-cool-and-good wankfest.)

Dragon Ball Super

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

coolusername posted:

Can anyone recommend some books where the plot is that cliche joy of two people who hate each being forced to work together, similar to C.S. Friedman's Coldfire trilogy? Protagonist and antagonist team up against a worse villain, or to survive in a hostile situation, etc.

Genre isn't really important (as long as it isn't an alt-history what-if-nazis-were-cool-and-good wankfest.)

Vineland by Thomas Pynchon

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

I'm looking for good sci-fi military books. Things like Old Man's War, Starship Troopers, WH40K stuff. Any suggestions?

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

Karma Comedian posted:

I'm looking for good sci-fi military books. Things like Old Man's War, Starship Troopers, WH40K stuff. Any suggestions?

I assume you've read The Forever War by Haldeman and Armor by Steakley? If not, those two for sure.

There's the Honor Harrington series and while I wouldn't exactly call them "good," they're entertaining and are intended to be space versions of Master & Commander. Lots of space ships maneuvering about and shooting tons of missiles at each other.

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 31, 2018

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Dadbod Apocalypse posted:

I assume you've read The Forever War by Haldeman and Armor by Steakley? If not, those two for sure.



I've actually never gotten to either of these two.

quote:


There's the Honor Harrington series and while I wouldn't exactly call them "good," they're entertaining and are intended to be space versions of Master & Commander. Lots of space ships maneuvering about and shooting tons of missiles at each other.

This sounds great!

Dirty Frank
Jul 8, 2004

Honor Harrington is closer to Horatio Hornblower than M&C, still good silly fun though. Also if you never read Hornblower they're way better, not set in space though obviously.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Dadbod Apocalypse posted:

I assume you've read The Forever War by Haldeman and Armor by Steakley? If not, those two for sure.

There's the Honor Harrington series and while I wouldn't exactly call them "good," they're entertaining and are intended to be space versions of Master & Commander. Lots of space ships maneuvering about and shooting tons of missiles at each other.

Honor Harrington is more Hornblower. For Master and Commander, David Drake's LT Leary Commanding is closer.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Karma Comedian posted:

I'm looking for good sci-fi military books. Things like Old Man's War, Starship Troopers, WH40K stuff. Any suggestions?

You might want to check out Yoon Ha Lee.

PsychedelicWarlord
Sep 8, 2016


Can anyone recommend accounts of war crimes trials and truth and reconciliation commissions, like They Would Never Hurt a Fly or Country of My Skull?

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I posted something about Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States in the D&D Trump thread, and there were some tongue-in-cheek replies about going head-on into Marxism.

Actually, I am interested in reading some modern Socialist literature. Any recommendations?

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
How do you define socialist literature?

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Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
China Mieville? But that's actually more Marxist.

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