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Yeah, before the child psyker makes him turn the gun on himself, the psyker forces him to shoot a space marine, which is probably what you're thinking of. The gun fails on the first try, then Voke shows up and saves him.
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DirtyRobot posted:Yeah, before the child psyker makes him turn the gun on himself, the psyker forces him to shoot a space marine, which is probably what you're thinking of. The gun fails on the first try, then Voke shows up and saves him. That was it, I only have the audiobook handy and had listened to that scene right before I posted. Thanks for the corrections!
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When the Emperor gave Kurze his legion, and then said "all the new people will come from Nostramo" why wasn't Kurze just like, I'm good. Can I just have more dudes from Terra? It's not like the World Eaters started taking novitiates from the slavery world, so clearly it was on option.
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Mar 18, 2018 13:28
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Kurze thought he had "cured" Nostromo so why wouldn't he recruit from his world? Or he knew that poo poo was going to go down and he couldn't change it so why fight fate?
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Mar 18, 2018 14:00
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God being a world eater has to be so rough. Like you're a little kid on terra, you get picked, go through the pipeline like In white scars and you get shipped off the loving world eaters and they jam some barbaric poo poo in your brain and your the only legion whose primary hates you
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Guy Goodbody posted:When the Emperor gave Kurze his legion, and then said "all the new people will come from Nostramo" why wasn't Kurze just like, I'm good. Can I just have more dudes from Terra? Wasn't Curze's reaction to the emperor basically "gently caress you dad, I'm not Konrad, I'm Night Haunter", possibly while also blaring Evanescense and Linkin Park? It could also be that people recruited from Nostromo would already have some degree of respect and/or fear of him to help keep them in line.
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Waroduce posted:God being a world eater has to be so rough. Like you're a little kid on terra, you get picked, go through the pipeline like In white scars and you get shipped off the loving world eaters and they jam some barbaric poo poo in your brain and your the only legion whose primary hates you Meanwhile you join the iron warriors if you like RTS games and there's only a 10% chance you will be executed for incompetence by Pert because he's upset that his dad doesn't like his architecture.
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Randalor posted:Wasn't Curze's reaction to the emperor basically "gently caress you dad, I'm not Konrad, I'm Night Haunter", possibly while also blaring Evanescense and Linkin Park? It could also be that people recruited from Nostromo would already have some degree of respect and/or fear of him to help keep them in line. I always figured Kurze was stuck in a self fulfilling prophecy since he had a vision that nearly killed him with the emperor ordering his death when they first met.
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Fluff question for an RPG group: My Dark Heresy players just drove into an Eldar Webway portal after the group Psyker activated the gate and told the gateway to 'Take them back to the ship'. The Psyker did not have Forbidden Knowledge Xenos, and therefore did not realize that Eldar Webway gates require gates on the entrance and exit, and therefore had no possibility of working as intended. The players did, and realized this was pretty much going to go badly, but it would have been worse to stick around (the planet surface was glassed minutes after their escape). So. Where should I send them? And what are some reasonable side effects for flying through the Webway in a sanctified cargo van (or, for the 2-3 dozen guardsmen following them who couldn't fit in the van, flying through completely unprotected)?
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Mar 18, 2018 20:00
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susan posted:So. Where should I send them? Commorragh.
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Calastar right in the loving middle of the raging battle between custodians and daemons. Alternatively have them appear on Titan and be all like..... this isn't where I parked my car....we'll just be going nowm...
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I need some recommendations. I have read all of the HH series, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Pariah, Gods of Mars, Night Lords, Watchers of the Throne, Carrion Throne, Dark Imperium, Talon/Black Legion, and Titanicus. Also planning on grabbing Magos. What else is good in 40k? I just started 40/30k last summer so I haven't read anything else but this in that time and I am not ready to stop yet. Edit: oh and I just picked up the first one in Beast Arises series since I figured I would enjoy that.
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susan posted:Fluff question for an RPG group: Just make a decent sized flow-chart style branching map, with choices of "Left", "Right" and sometimes "Middle". The more times they give the wrong answer and go further away from the exit closest to where they want to go, they find more and more Dark Eldar. The more right choices, Eldar. Have the exit spit them out near an Eldar outpost for shits and giggles (And depending on the disposition of the Eldar towards your group, have the Eldar's reaction be their equivalent to "Stunned silence"). As far as "How does the human body take to the Webway" going by the fluff... surprisingly well actually. I think there are areas where the webway is thin and the warp can seep in, but novels have characters walking and talking in the webway without issue (Okay, some temporal shenanigans, but that may be more "Psyker projection" rather than actual "Ran into his own past self") except for the backwash from fast-moving ships flying through larger webway tunnels. Randalor fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Mar 18, 2018 |
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D-Pad posted:I need some recommendations. I have read all of the HH series, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Pariah, Gods of Mars, Night Lords, Watchers of the Throne, Carrion Throne, Dark Imperium, Talon/Black Legion, and Titanicus. Also planning on grabbing Magos. What else is good in 40k? I just started 40/30k last summer so I haven't read anything else but this in that time and I am not ready to stop yet. …actually, wait, did you forget to list Gaunt's Ghosts or did you really not read any of it? Because if it's the latter you have your work cut out for you.
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D-Pad posted:I need some recommendations. I have read all of the HH series, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Pariah, Gods of Mars, Night Lords, Watchers of the Throne, Carrion Throne, Dark Imperium, Talon/Black Legion, and Titanicus. Also planning on grabbing Magos. What else is good in 40k? I just started 40/30k last summer so I haven't read anything else but this in that time and I am not ready to stop yet. The Inquisition War  The Word Bearers omnibus wasn't a bad read, IMO. The Ciaphas Cain novels aren't bad either, I think only a few of them are specifically tied together, while the rest are semi-seperate (The novels are his memoir, edited into a series of reports by the Inquisition and make frequent passing references that not even the Inquisitor editing the novels is quite sure he's referring to)
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Pick up the Armageddon Omnibus if you haven't read it. Helsreach and Blood and Fire in one package.
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susan posted:So. Where should I send them? It could be fun trying to explain to the Custodes how they accidentally infiltrated the Imperial Palace on Holy Terra, but that's likely a campaign-ender.
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MMAgCh posted:Double Eagle is solid though not particularly remarkable, and perhaps best described as a kind of 40k Battle of Britain. Oh yeah, I read the first 3 Gaunt's Ghosts so I will start over and read the whole series. Considering I read everything on that list in under a year (and that's all 48 HH books) I am not intimidated.
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moths posted:It could be fun trying to explain to the Custodes how they accidentally infiltrated the Imperial Palace on Holy Terra, but that's likely a campaign-ender. Especially given what happened to that particular webway portal in Master of Mankind
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Non-damaged web ways are pretty drat safe which is why the emperor was making his own for humanity to use.
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Pendent posted:Especially given what happened to that particular webway portal in Master of Mankind Woops, demons and a warp vortex ate Terra. Womp womp!
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MariusLecter posted:Woops, demons and a warp vortex ate Terra. Womp womp! That does seem like a reasonably appropriate end for most role playing groups I've been involved in.
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Man, The Magos was loving good, too bad we'll have to wait like 5 years for the next book.
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susan posted:Fluff question for an RPG group: It really depends on if you only want them to suffer a bit but survive or kill them all in a spectacular manner. Some lovely ideas: - Commorragh, probably the end, but you can at least do some Spartacus style gladiatorial games. - A Maiden World, hope they like dinosaurs. - Some freaky adventures inside the webway, ancient eldar graveyards, then dump them in a remote imperial world. - The Black Library, let them get a peek, wipe their memories and throw them somewhere else.
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An inactive Necron ship that, upon their arrival, slowly begins to stir. Necron ships don’t generally have any life support. Can the party escape before their air runs out? Can they disable the ship before the crew revives? Where are they?
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D-Pad posted:I need some recommendations. I have read all of the HH series, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Pariah, Gods of Mars, Night Lords, Watchers of the Throne, Carrion Throne, Dark Imperium, Talon/Black Legion, and Titanicus. Also planning on grabbing Magos. What else is good in 40k? I just started 40/30k last summer so I haven't read anything else but this in that time and I am not ready to stop yet. The Cain books or Gaunt's Ghosts series, Shira Calpurnia trilogy, Baneblade/Shadowsword (can you tell I play Guard?).
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susan posted:So. Where should I send them? - Go Ravenor style and dump them on a world swarming with tyranids - Fun rapey time in Commorragh - Have a near miss as Jaghatai Kahn roars past on his bike asking for directions - Interrupt an AA meeting consisting solely of Bloodthirsters - Warhammer Fantasy
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susan posted:Fluff question for an RPG group: IMO, this is just a take on the classic D&D "warp the wish" game. They said "Take us back to the ship!", so where they come out should have something to do with their ship, only in a way that's terrible for them. Personally, I'd do something with their ship's name. If they wanted to go back to the Ravenous, they get a deathworld filled with monsters. If they were trying to get to the Citadel of Faith, they come out of an ancient hidden gate on a besieged Shrineworld. The Dark Lady buys them a trip to Commorragh. Etc.
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Khizan posted:IMO, this is just a take on the classic D&D "warp the wish" game. They said "Take us back to the ship!", so where they come out should have something to do with their ship, only in a way that's terrible for them. Minor Ravenor spoilers below Wasn't this something that happened to Ravenor's group when they were trying to use the warp-fuckery door to get home? It was somehow damaged and trying to interpret what they were asking it. So when they needed to find water it dumped them on an ocean planet, etc? (I actually loved that whole sequence with all the freaky worlds and universes.) Although it did bug the sperg in me when they refer to the Tyranids as not having a name yet when there's a throw away line in Eisenhorn referring to "the foul tyranid".
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Dog_Meat posted:Minor Ravenor spoilers below The Eisenhorn line is the lore incorrect one here.
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Dog_Meat posted:Although it did bug the sperg in me when they refer to the Tyranids as not having a name yet when there's a throw away line in Eisenhorn referring to "the foul tyranid". I'm pretty sure Genestealer cults were a thing in the Imperium during Eisenhorn's time, so maybe he was referring to them? But yeah, it's just that Tyranid were a thing since Rogue Trader and Dan Abnett probably just realized after he wrote Eisenhorn that they're about 500 years before Tyranids truly arrived in the setting.
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Dog_Meat posted:Minor Ravenor spoilers below They 'wish' to be returned to their ship but are instead transported to a space station with the same name 1000 years earlier.
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hopterque posted:They 'wish' to be returned to their ship but are instead transported to a space station with the same name 1000 years earlier. I always legit felt bad about that poor surgeon. Why didn't she make the jump to M41 when Ravenor gave her the option? 
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Dog_Meat posted:- Warhammer Fantasy I like this one
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Randalor posted:As far as "How does the human body take to the Webway" going by the fluff... surprisingly well actually. I think there are areas where the webway is thin and the warp can seep in, but novels have characters walking and talking in the webway without issue (Okay, some temporal shenanigans, but that may be more "Psyker projection" rather than actual "Ran into his own past self") except for the backwash from fast-moving ships flying through larger webway tunnels. As for where they end up, the webway is a maze like no other. I'd say they stay completely lost and have some adventures in the ruins of a long abandoned Eldar city. Then some Harlequins help the group out for shits and giggles. After trolling them for a bit first, of course.
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Groetgaffel posted:Then some Harlequins help the group out for shits and giggles. After trolling them for a bit first, of course. This, but the group are forced to travel with them to a craft world to perform an interpretive dance recital of the fall of the Eldar in front of Eldrad 
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hopterque posted:Man, The Magos was loving good, too bad we'll have to wait like 5 years for the next book. BL isn't loving over its authors anymore, so we might see something sooner.
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My vote would be it interprets it, and drops them on an actual sailing ship off shore (of Eldar construction, but no high tech) on a hidden Maiden world. Bonus points if they get to land and encounter the Eldar who look Exodite have been sacrificing Commoragh style to stave off Chaos, and the reveal can be the planet is already in the Eye, and has been for the last 10,000 years. Commence warp hijinks.
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Odd question: I read most of the books here involving Eisenhorn and his successor in the floating brain-chair. Sorry, it’s been a while. Anyways, are there any books set in the 40k universe that are more sci-fi, weird atmospheres, and sense-of-scale focused rather than what are essentially action/intrigue/spy novels? I loved the ones I read, but I got a little tired of those tropes (I also noticed many objects in the universe were called like, I dunno, slag-lance or rip-coal. Those two word combos Abnett uses worked for a while, but after long grew stale). For instance, the Baba Yaga under water environment was SO COOL. Any thoughts?
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Read like..... anything else by (almost) anyone else? Eye of Terror Titanicus (abnett) The of Mars series. I think it starts with priests Night Lords Emperor's legion Talon of Horus White scars Dante The Inquisition War Ian Watsons Space Marine as a comedy option
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