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Garbage disposals are far less of a problem when it comes to clogs and hazards to plumbing than toilets. People like to treat both like magic portals, but at least a garbage disposal would grind up a tampon or diaper before sending it down the pipe. II loved having one for cleaning out the fridge. No more piling spoiled food into the garbage and then taking it out. Just put it down the drain, followed by some ice to clear any bits left on the blades.
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Weatherman posted:You change it once a day (or once every two days) after doing the dishes, they cost 100 yen for a pack of like 50, and there are no moving parts to break or get gummed up It's not a question of cost, it's a question of convenience. A disposal costs a lot more than a trap, sure, but it's still not that expensive in the grand scheme of things, and it's a nice convenience. Like, I'm less worried about the money I'm spending on the disposal than the money I'm spending on keeping the house 1 degree warmer than I "need" it to be.
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Mar 20, 2018 15:33
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Yeah I'm not walking over to my trash or bringing my trash over to my sink to empty out a little gross mesh thing. Goons these days.
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Mar 20, 2018 15:40
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Why would I bother when I have a perfectly good garbage disposal?
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Mar 20, 2018 15:49
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The Dave posted:Yeah I'm not walking over to my trash or bringing my trash over to my sink to empty out a little gross mesh thing. Goons these days. Wow. We just have the garbage bin (with a bag in it unless you're disgusting) under or right next to the sink. When I was a kid it was just a ½-circular bucket screwed to the door but nowadays it's almost always some sort of pull-out mechanism.   e: Where is your trash anyway  Oh I guess that makes sense but still never seen one. 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Mar 20, 2018 15:56
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Seems like this is all irrelevant if you use a dishwasher, what with them not typically having macerators in them.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wow. We just have the garbage bin (with a bag in it unless you're disgusting) under or right next to the sink. When I was a kid it was just a ½-circular bucket screwed to the door but nowadays it's almost always some sort of pull-out mechanism. I wish I had space for something like that. My garbage is a freestanding bin because I have so little under-counter storage space. Anyway, this argument reads like people who use brooms making fun of people who use vacuum cleaners, or people who use clotheslines making fun of people who use clothes dryers. Like, they're both valid solutions to the problem. One's more expensive and energy-intensive, sure, but that doesn't make it objectively wrong somehow. tl;dr it's a stupid argument.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Seems like this is all irrelevant if you use a dishwasher, what with them not typically having macerators in them. I still wash a lot of cooking tools (pots, pans, knives, wooden spatulas, etc.) in the sink.
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Mar 20, 2018 16:02
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:people who use clotheslines making fun of people who use clothes dryers  
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Mar 20, 2018 16:04
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I think the confusion here is because apparently the US has sinks with drains big enough to fit crap through. All the sinks here have a standardized drain with six tiny round holes in 'em, which prevents basically anything but the tiniest food scraps from getting through. No need for a mesh or a garbage disposal when you can't stuff foodscraps down the drain anyway.
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Mar 20, 2018 16:30
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Jerry Cotton posted:e: Where is your trash anyway Well our garbage bin is way too big to fit under a cabinet, not that there's space there anway. However, the trash is on one end of the wall and the sink is on the other, so against the wall is: Base Cabinets|Sink|Base Cabinets|Stove|Base Cabinets|Trash
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Mar 20, 2018 16:35
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Mar 20, 2018 17:14
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American kitchens must be really weird from a scandinavian perspective, it's basically universal here that the garbage is under the sink. We have three different receptacles, metal, glass and general household waste. 
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TheDarkOfKnight posted:Presented without comment. Name checks out, that is mostly Euclidean geometry
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His Divine Shadow posted:American kitchens must be really weird from a scandinavian perspective, it's basically universal here that the garbage is under the sink. We have three different receptacles, metal, glass and general household waste. In the United States, the space under the sink is reserved exclusively for cleaning supplies, and a plastic grocery bag full of more plastic grocery bags.
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DrBouvenstein posted:In the United States, the space under the sink is reserved exclusively for cleaning supplies, and a plastic grocery bag full of more plastic grocery bags. Where do you keep your bottles of vodka and jaloviina?
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Bird in a Blender posted:Yea, but that's not really a garbage disposal problem since you can dump grease down any old drain. Lots of cities collect compost as part of trash and recycling services.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Where do you keep your bottles of vodka and jaloviina? On the bar in the living room with the other spirits, glassware, etc., of course!
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DrBouvenstein posted:In the United States, the space under the sink is reserved exclusively for cleaning supplies, and a plastic grocery bag full of more plastic grocery bags. Plus our 55 gallon trash barrels won't fit under there. I'd have to empty my trash hourly if I used such a puny receptacle 
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His Divine Shadow posted:American kitchens must be really weird from a scandinavian perspective, it's basically universal here that the garbage is under the sink. We have three different receptacles, metal, glass and general household waste. In America we keep all of our chemicals, poisons and various cleaning things under the sink so our kids can get into them.  
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Mar 20, 2018 21:25
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There's usually room for those as well even with the rubbish bin. Your plumbing just takes up 40000 times as much space as it should. (Maybe because of the finger-consumers?)
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extravadanza posted:In America we keep all of our chemicals, poisons and various cleaning things under the sink so our kids can get into them. Yep, no one has ever invented a way to keep kids out of cabinets. wait.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:No kidding my house was renovated two owners ago by a narcoleptic. That was a fun discovery. It puts the "comic" in "tragicomic" every time I find a problem around here. So, he just fell asleep in the middle of projects? How much you want to bet someone walked down the middle, tripped or slipped and fell, sued because they couldn't reach the handrail, and this was the response/result? Jaded Burnout posted:This is why I ripped my place back to the brick, because the PO lived here for 60 years and did everything the lazy and/or cheap way. Or that. "Handrails must be within blah, blah, blah." Hexyflexy posted:Nothing wrong with that, the switch is on and there's power? I can't tell if you're joking or really missing something. Jerry Cotton posted:Where do you keep your bottles of vodka and jaloviina? Top of the fridge.
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Mar 20, 2018 22:56
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I've never lived in a house with a garbage disposal.
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Darchangel posted:So, he just fell asleep in the middle of projects? Yup, the inspector found him collapsed on the floor a few times. I found out when he inspected an A/C installation. It's why half of the tile in the kitchen was coming loose and breaking, I suspect.
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You can but should you? https://youtu.be/q-zE592PL4I
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Better than the sinks with about one inch of free room from the back of the sink to the actual spout, at least. Good luck if you drop anything down the gap at the back though.
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Ruflux posted:I think the confusion here is because apparently the US has sinks with drains big enough to fit crap through. All the sinks here have a standardized drain with six tiny round holes in 'em, which prevents basically anything but the tiniest food scraps from getting through. No need for a mesh or a garbage disposal when you can't stuff foodscraps down the drain anyway. Clearly you aren’t trying hard enough to fit things through the small holes. Requires some finger work. Commercial kitchens often use similar drains in the sinks and you can cram some interesting stuff through them. If your lucky they’ll have something to collect chunks but not always. It all goes to a grease trap anyways so it doesn’t tend to end up in the sewer regardless.
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I mean, you could stuff pencils through quite easily, but the question is why would you? Unless it's like, your worst enemy's kitchen or something.
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kid sinister posted:What a piece of poo poo. Drop ceilings don't belong in bathrooms, period. The tiles are basically puffed paper. 
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That'll get patched out in the next update
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is it a slide for kittens
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It's a trap for skateboarders.
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Pour a concrete wall across the front, make it a planter, problem solved.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Where do you keep your bottles of vodka and jaloviina?
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Safer than some of the electric jobs I've seen:
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kid sinister posted:Safer than some of the electric jobs I've seen: No way that actually transfers enough heat to water though.
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If the pipe goes outside, it might be enough to keep it from freezing, though.
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Larrymer posted:No way that actually transfers enough heat to water though. Some googling suggests that a candle puts out about 80W. It takes ~3.8 kilocalories to raise the temperature of 1 gallon of water by 1C (hey, let's mix standard and imperial units!  ), and 1 watt-hour is a little bigger than 1 kcal, so if the shower was outputting 1 gallon per minute, the candle would raise the temperature of the water by about 80/60/3.8 = ~.4 degrees Celsius. Assuming all the heat of the candle were captured by the water.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Some googling suggests that a candle puts out about 80W. It takes ~3.8 kilocalories to raise the temperature of 1 gallon of water by 1C (hey, let's mix standard and imperial units! This may be the gooniest thing I've ever seen. I appreciated it.
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