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I've never watched DBZA myself, but I've seen a few comments recommending it to folks who want to get into Dragon Ball. I always found it a weird suggestion since the characterization must be really different or maybe exaggerated, not to mention it's taken them years to even get to the end of the Cell Saga. Plus, there's always the option to marathon Kai or even blast through the DBZ manga.
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DBZA is not as good without prior knowledge of the series.
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Apr 23, 2018 13:36
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amigolupus posted:I've never watched DBZA myself, but I've seen a few comments recommending it to folks who want to get into Dragon Ball. I always found it a weird suggestion since the characterization must be really different or maybe exaggerated, not to mention it's taken them years to even get to the end of the Cell Saga. Plus, there's always the option to marathon Kai or even blast through the DBZ manga. After the first season the characterization starts to drift from being all off-the-wall and wacky to just "canon characterization but exaggerated". It also gradually gets better at keeping the kinetic energy of a DBZ fight while maintaining a comedic tone, rather than relying on interruptions. The Super 13 movie is a good example imo. It's basically non-stop fighting while still being filled with great gags. I probably wouldn't recommend it as someone's first Dragon Ball experience but it does capture the appeal of Dragon Ball in its own way.
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Apr 23, 2018 13:38
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Early DBZA is really hard to go back to because the writing and voice acting is really amateur but starts to pick up about the time they get to Namek. Also I think the acting for Freeza and Cell is real good. I honestly forget how actual Cell acts compared to his DBZA version.
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Apr 23, 2018 13:48
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Way too many of the jokes rely on the viewer having watched the original dub for me to ever suggest watching DBZA as your primary source for the series.
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Glagha posted:Early DBZA is really hard to go back to because the writing and voice acting is really amateur but starts to pick up about the time they get to Namek. Also I think the acting for Freeza and Cell is real good. I honestly forget how actual Cell acts compared to his DBZA version. Its pretty obvious at this point that people's picture of Cell is borne out of DBZA and various videogames rather than what you really see in the series when you hear people talk about how they should bring him back or how he should have had Frieza's role in the Tournament of Power.
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Apr 23, 2018 14:17
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DBZA Cell is just based off the dub for him anyway, moreso Kai.
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Apr 23, 2018 14:40
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Sassy Cell leaks into DBFZ a bit imo.
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Glagha posted:Sassy Cell leaks into DBFZ a bit imo. It's less that and more that that personality was a creation of Bandai-Namco in the first place, starting from Xenoverse. Video-game Cell is a snarky, insulting, amazing mentor guy whose VA seems to be enjoying every second of his job. Abridged did its own thing with a creepier but hilarious Cell, of course, but I wouldn't say they're one and the same or even connected. It's just that different things tend to have different interpretations and Cell seems to be loved for that for some reason.
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Apr 23, 2018 15:27
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khwarezm posted:Its pretty obvious at this point that people's picture of Cell is borne out of DBZA and various videogames rather than what you really see in the series when you hear people talk about how they should bring him back or how he should have had Frieza's role in the Tournament of Power. Yeah, the games and especially DBZA made Cell a lot snarkier and more taunting than he really was in the show. The show just had him be all "I MUST BE COMPLETE" until he becomes perfect, at which point he basically becomes Freeza again but a little bit less of a sadist and a bit more of a showoff.
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Apr 23, 2018 15:44
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Glagha posted:Sassy Cell leaks into DBFZ a bit imo. DBFZ cell is absolutely channeling DBZA, from what I've seen so far. He's extremely saucy.
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Apr 23, 2018 16:21
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Cells Japanese voice actor makes me really wish I could speak Japanese
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Apr 23, 2018 16:24
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dr.acula posted:Cells Japanese voice actor makes me really wish I could speak Japanese Norio Wakamoto can speak English just fine.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlLhw1mtCFA
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Norio Wakamoto can speak English just fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsnxhALA-x4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9079eim2LQ Kild fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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Apr 23, 2018 20:54
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Once you go Wakamoto, you don't go Backamoto.
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This burn deserved this edit. https://twitter.com/Ju_Bai_Da/status/988513275494260737
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Mmmm on the one hand I like the Jiren Doing Things approach from the manga. On the other hand, this is like the 3rd chapter since the ToP started and not even Kale or Caulifla had done anything. The anime at least reserved Jiren as the last new character to start fighting, and the build up was really well made, with every fighter noticing the arena trembling and the air getting thicker just from Jiren taking one step.
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Yeah I'm a lot more interested in Kale at least with how he's portraying her in the manga.
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Apr 23, 2018 23:19
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the manga sucks big time. don't read it
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if i were forced to either watch dragon ball gt or read the dragon ball super manga, i might just watch gt
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Condiv posted:the manga sucks big time. don't read it Actually its ok and I will read it!
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Condiv posted:if i were forced to either watch dragon ball gt or read the dragon ball super manga, i might just watch gt There's some things you just don't say, even as a joke. White Mage Trunks is almost GT-caliber.
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Apr 24, 2018 00:25
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If Trunks' timeline is doomed in both versions I don't think him not getting a JRPG finishing move is a disaster honestly.
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Apr 24, 2018 00:39
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The manga is just super mediocre. It reads like yet another fanboy of DBZ and other shounen of that era who didn't really get why the successful ones were successful, they just assumed "fights and power levels" and missed the heart.
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deadly_pudding posted:DBFZ cell is absolutely channeling DBZA, from what I've seen so far. He's extremely saucy. he was insanely sassy in Xenoverse too, that just seems to be where they took him e: my one complaint about video game cell is that they always insist on making his stupid barrier a super move it's so lame give him a multiform special beam cannon or something instead Yinlock fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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With how that game's dub turned out, I wouldn't be surprised if Damien Clark just felt like making Cell as exaggerated as possible and the director just went with it.
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Apr 24, 2018 01:25
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Dameon Clarke plays Cell like Handsome Jack nowadays
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Waffleman_ posted:Dameon Clarke plays Cell like Handsome Jack nowadays I mean....they're both perfect.
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The manga will only be interesting when it clears the ToP, and only so we can see how the anime will do the new stuff
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quote:my one complaint about video game cell is that they always insist on making his stupid barrier a super move You don't want it as a normal move. You truly don't, even costing power. You don't want it as something to be spammed. Trust me on this.
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Rudoku posted:There's some things you just don't say, even as a joke. White Mage Trunks is almost GT-caliber. The way it actually plays out is dumb, but I really like the ideas that becoming a Kai's official apprentice gives you magic healing powers due to arbitrary celestial reasons. And that Shin had no idea it would.
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Cleric Trunks is one of the biggest lows of the manga. If I hadn't read it myself I would definitely think you guys were trolling
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Apr 24, 2018 04:18
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The whole Goku Black arc in the manga was so disappointing. Especially compared to the anime itself.
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Its all we got right now so I wont complain. Do you think Zeno or the Grand Priest know about that weird board game dimension?
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Pureauthor posted:The whole Goku Black arc in the manga was so disappointing. Especially compared to the anime itself. Goku Black was the second best Super arc by a fair margin IMO
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Trunks not sticking around makes me sad  He would have been so cool at the ToP
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You guys have forgotten what actual Cell was like? The dude was super sassy to begin with, after becoming perfect he spares Trunks just so he can throw a tournament, spends time making his own arena, gets bored waiting for the tournament to start and goes on TV to promote the tournament and he throws happy banter with everyone until he's pushed into a corner. His disposition did really not just come from the games or DBZA alone.
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Bloodly posted:You don't want it as a normal move. You truly don't, even costing power. You don't want it as something to be spammed. Trust me on this. I mean you say that, but meter builds up so drat fast in DBFZ. You can pretty much use it whenever if you're playing well.
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I will never accept Perfect Cell because they ruined a pretty cool design by not sticking to giant cicada Cell and pushing for its success. Toriyama giveth and Toriyama taketh away.
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Zwiebel posted:I will never accept Perfect Cell because they ruined a pretty cool design by not sticking to giant cicada Cell and pushing for its success. Toriyama's editor giveth and taketh away, mostly. It's also why Androids 19 and 20 were rapidly shuffled from this mortal coil.
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