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I always thought it was a fun rite of passage, walk the gauntlet then get dogpiled and the whole academy cheers you and picks you up on their shoulders. Great thrill, lots of laughs, and worth a couple welts.
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Besides gym drama gauntlets are the dumbest thing about bjj.
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Apr 28, 2018 15:26
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JaySB posted:My gym doesn't have a gauntlet for blue belt and it's optional for purple and brown. My gym here in Seoul did a gauntlet for the last promotion (all blue belts) and it was really dumb. I dislike the whole "lets swing a belt at you to show you how good you are at BJJ" thing. My gym in the US basically made you roll with a bunch of white belts, then blues, etc. until the coach rolled with you and then you got your belt. I kinda think that is a better way of doing it.
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Apr 28, 2018 16:07
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We just do congratulatory light handed standing cross choke to the new recipient.
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Apr 28, 2018 16:18
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You could always just tell your coach that getting hit with a belt brings up bad memories for you. They'd have to be a real jerk to give you a hard time after that.
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Apr 28, 2018 16:26
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My gym just has a BBQ in the parking lot and everybody eats picanha which seems a lot more fun than getting whipped by a bunch of people who aren't going to play with your nipples and jerk you off after
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Apr 28, 2018 16:44
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I attended a military boarding school as a kid, as an adult I have no patience for most hazing (cool traditions, like the bbq, are ok). I would speak out, respectfully, against a professor wanting to do this. If he/she continued pushing it I would get more direct about it.
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Apr 28, 2018 17:02
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I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. While I agree it's kinda silly to let other people whip you with a belt as a sign of your growth in a sport, it's like 15 seconds of pain for something you spent a couple years of getting your rear end kicked to earn.
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Apr 28, 2018 17:25
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I see it as a literal congratulatory slap on the back. A ceremonial show of respect. But it is also humbling because of the whipping aspect, and humility is important in our sport. Any that I have experienced are full of fun and love, and I can understand how it spread to so many gyms. Pressuring someone to do it would be pretty hosed up though.
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Apr 28, 2018 18:32
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JaySB posted:I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. While I agree it's kinda silly to let other people whip you with a belt as a sign of your growth in a sport, it's like 15 seconds of pain for something you spent a couple years of getting your rear end kicked to earn. Why do you need to hit someone with a belt to congratulate them? Use your words, you're an adult.
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Apr 28, 2018 18:55
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Yes why aren't these people who roll around in pajamas choking each other out acting like Adults
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Apr 28, 2018 19:09
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VRViperII posted:I see it as a literal congratulatory slap on the back. A ceremonial show of respect. But it is also humbling because of the whipping aspect, and humility is important in our sport. Any that I have experienced are full of fun and love, and I can understand how it spread to so many gyms. Pressuring someone to do it would be pretty hosed up though. If you've made it to your first promotion without feeling humble then either you're a champion wrestler or your gym is doing you a disservice. If your gym does a gauntlet then there IS pressure to do it, regardless of what anyone says. That's what peer pressure is. Nobody HAS to undergo hazing (which is what a gauntlet is,) they choose to because of peer pressure.
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Apr 28, 2018 19:36
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I don't know what the gently caress has happened in everyone's past but the hysterical reaction to this is genuinely bizarre from my perspective. Personally, I think shark tanks or other types of hardship that still produce a learning experience are the way to go, but holy poo poo lol
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Apr 28, 2018 22:33
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Why do you need to hit someone with a belt to congratulate them? Use your words, you're an adult. Why learn to armbar when you can instead employ the Socratic method to achieve a shared understanding and turn a prospective enemy into a life long friend of learning?
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Apr 28, 2018 22:37
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How many people who enjoy the gauntlet are former military, boarding school or frat boys?
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Apr 28, 2018 22:49
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I was actually bleeding after the last time I went through the gauntlet lmao
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Apr 28, 2018 23:08
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The shark tank feels more like a bonding experience between peers and the gauntlet feels more like hazing between 12 year olds
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Apr 28, 2018 23:19
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Marching Powder posted:Why learn to armbar when you can instead employ the Socratic method to achieve a shared understanding and turn a prospective enemy into a life long friend of learning? What do gauntlets have to do with bjj you moron? At least try not to contradict yourself when trying your sick burn.
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Apr 28, 2018 23:21
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Tezcatlipoca posted:What do gauntlets have to do with bjj you moron? At least try not to contradict yourself when trying your sick burn. it's to do with congratulations.
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Apr 28, 2018 23:27
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CONGRATULATIONS *POW* - Guy that I've never rolled with and only comes around once a year when promotion time comes.
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Apr 28, 2018 23:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv9xpZhUUpU&t=58s Batista on his purple belt gauntlet starkebn posted:How many people who enjoy the gauntlet are former military, boarding school or frat boys? Because they are used to hazing.
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Apr 28, 2018 23:59
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ElMaligno posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv9xpZhUUpU&t=58s this is way better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEySUuAYNGw
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Apr 29, 2018 00:20
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Belt slap not a big deal imo
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Apr 29, 2018 00:35
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Im a purple belt so Ive been whipped a couple of times and if I stick with it Ill get whipped one more. Whoop-de-doo. The school I used to train at said if you dont want to be whipped, you dont get to whip and that worked fairly well in terms of giving people an out.
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Apr 29, 2018 00:46
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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:My gym just has a BBQ in the parking lot and everybody eats picanha which seems a lot more fun than getting whipped by a bunch of people who aren't going to play with your nipples and jerk you off after well have you even asked?
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Apr 29, 2018 00:47
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Sorry, for some reason the awful app is eating a lot of the punctuation, looks different when I preview it.
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Apr 29, 2018 00:48
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JaySB posted:I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. While I agree it's kinda silly to let other people whip you with a belt as a sign of your growth in a sport, it's like 15 seconds of pain for something you spent a couple years of getting your rear end kicked to earn. Agreed... I'm in more pain from soreness after rolling than any smack from a cloth belt comes close to. It never seemed like a big deal to me
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Apr 29, 2018 03:00
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Jerome Louis posted:Agreed... I'm in more pain from soreness after rolling than any smack from a cloth belt comes close to. It never seemed like a big deal to me It's not about the pain, it's about it being stupid macho bullshit that people may very reasonably not want to participate in.
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Apr 29, 2018 03:07
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It's not about the pain, it's about it being stupid macho bullshit that people may very reasonably not want to participate in. I don't really care if people want to participate in it or not, I just never even understood the idea that it was so repugnant to some people that it would draw such a big amount of ire... I guess having played sports most of my life has warped my view of that stuff
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Apr 29, 2018 03:11
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It's not about the pain, it's about it being stupid macho bullshit that people may very reasonably not want to participate in. is it really a macho thing and not a lighthearted ceremony that you can always opt out of?
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Apr 29, 2018 03:14
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Marching Powder posted:is it really a macho thing and not a lighthearted ceremony that you can always opt out of? Depends if you're a normal well adjusted human or not.
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Apr 29, 2018 03:17
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Jerome Louis posted:I don't really care if people want to participate in it or not, I just never even understood the idea that it was so repugnant to some people that it would draw such a big amount of ire... I guess having played sports most of my life has warped my view of that stuff You really have that much trouble understanding why someone might have reservations about a sadomasochistic group hazing ritual? Marching Powder posted:is it really a macho thing and not a lighthearted ceremony that you can always opt out of? It's 100% a macho thing that started because some shithead coach wanted BJJ training to feel more like the military.
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Apr 29, 2018 03:18
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Mechafunkzilla posted:You really have that much trouble understanding why someone might have reservations about a sadomasochistic group hazing ritual? I don't see it that way, so yes
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Apr 29, 2018 03:19
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Mechafunkzilla posted:You really have that much trouble understanding why someone might have reservations about a sadomasochistic group hazing ritual? you must really loving hate the people you train with
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Apr 29, 2018 03:21
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I've dislocated my shoulder over a dozen times, no longer have an AC joint, and regularly get choked to near unconsciousness by a 270 lb man with bad B.O. and dreadlocks. I'm for sure not normal or well adjusted and I'm ok with that
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Apr 29, 2018 03:24
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Apr 29, 2018 03:25
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Jerome Louis posted:I've dislocated my shoulder over a dozen times, no longer have an AC joint, and regularly get choked to near unconsciousness by a 270 lb man with bad B.O. and dreadlocks. I'm for sure not normal or well adjusted and I'm ok with that the real brutality is your friends patting you on the back too hard with your consent
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Apr 29, 2018 03:26
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Whether or not it's opt-out, the peer pressure will be there for people to do it. I don't think anybody cares if you have no problem with it personally, do what you want, but it seems really stupid to pretend it's a great tradition that must be done or you're some sort of too sensitive girly man. It's only been done for 30 years at most, and I'd be surprised if any Gracies or Machados do it in their gyms.
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Apr 29, 2018 03:28
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starkebn posted:Whether or not it's opt-out, the peer pressure will be there for people to do it. This guy gets it.
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starkebn posted:but it seems really stupid to pretend it's a great tradition that must be done or you're some sort of too sensitive girly man. it is really stupid, but nobody here is saying that.
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