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You'd think if anyone could appreciate the horrors of genocide it would be the jews. Oh well
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May 19, 2018 14:52
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babypolis posted:unsubscribe from the nyt  Speaking of, I noticed they did a huge article on Jordon Petersen that tries to present itself as critical "JP: Patriarchy defender" but I suspect is mostly fawning, can anybody dive into that pool of wallpaper paste and confirm/deny
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May 19, 2018 15:54
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it's actually pretty cutting for a nyt profile of a conservative
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May 19, 2018 15:56
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Jose posted:she can't keep getting silenced like this this whole line is so infuriating lol, how can anyone say this type of thing with a straight face and no shame
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May 19, 2018 15:59
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bari weiss and bill maher on the edmund pettus bridge marchers: “they planned that”
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May 19, 2018 16:02
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Nebakenezzer posted:
it's actually good and shits all over him
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May 19, 2018 16:04
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lol isn't that whole 'using human shields' part of the refrain the US media uses to justify invading every 'dictatorship' we just so happened to want to invade anyway
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May 19, 2018 16:13
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the perfidious moslem hides his soldiers behind civilians, so that we have to kill tons of them constantly when they leave their
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May 19, 2018 16:18
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babypolis posted:its incredibly monstrous and erodes my belief in pacifist revolutions It's... not hard to feel like this. The Palestinians are doing exactly what they're supposed to, marching in the face of overwhelming force and dying. Yet people looking at this planned, like... loving incredibly brave thing, and going "oh, they planned this, they meant to die" and not going "gently caress, that means..." kinda erodes the whole idea of non-violent revolution. You can't appeal to the humanity of the other side if they have none. Also david brooks has a column where he says he's a Whig with no understanding of why that's really goddamn funny
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May 19, 2018 16:19
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Grondoth posted:It's... not hard to feel like this. The Palestinians are doing exactly what they're supposed to, marching in the face of overwhelming force and dying. Yet people looking at this planned, like... loving incredibly brave thing, and going "oh, they planned this, they meant to die" and not going "gently caress, that means..." kinda erodes the whole idea of non-violent revolution. You can't appeal to the humanity of the other side if they have none.
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May 19, 2018 16:28
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im pretty sure the point of non-violent protest isnt to make fascists feel bad, its to make everyone else realize they are fascists
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May 19, 2018 16:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You can't just assume that being intentionally provocative regarding deeply sensitive international issues could lead to a mass murder. that's just "delegitimizing a protest 101" literally the entire objective of protest against oppression is to force a confrontation with the oppressor, in order to force them to demonstrate their tactics repeatedly against a large, camera-gathering crowd like, of course they planned a confrontation. that's what a protest is
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May 19, 2018 16:48
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Main Paineframe posted:that's just "delegitimizing a protest 101" Right, and obviously most of the people marching knew that there was a strong possibility that they would be killed during the protest (because that's what the IDF does). Broadly, David Brooks is correct to say that this protest was meant to be a globally publicized display. The thing that's idiotic and horrible is to say that it's the Palestinians who are in the wrong for making that statement, rather than the IDF soldiers who are also making a statement by murdering them. Whether it's saying that the Palestinian protestors are morons who were tricked or hypnotized by Hamas or saying that it's foolish to protest Israeli imperialism because obviously Israel doesn't want and doesn't need to make concessions, the goal is to discredit any kind of protest as violence, even if it's the protestors who are obviously the victims of that violence.
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May 19, 2018 17:08
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RaySmuckles posted:the fact that 10,000 unarmed civilians have been intentionally gunned down by an occupying nation in the last 2 months, 61 of them killed, is a surreal moment in modern history. these are dark times I wouldn't be surprised if the actual death toll ends up being considerably higher, since a portion of those thousands injured (I think 2000+?) are likely to die from their injuries becoming infected or whatever (which the terrible infrastructure situation doesn't help).
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May 19, 2018 19:06
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Dutchy posted:this whole line is so infuriating lol, how can anyone say this type of thing with a straight face and no shame It is because they perceive Palestinians (and any other Muslim) as just some generic lunatic brown person hollering and raving, while they perceive Israelis through the lens of "smiling white-looking IDF soldier." edit: Sorry, didn't mean to double-post Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 19:24 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 19:21
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Israel is a highly advanced Western Democracy, you see,
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May 19, 2018 19:59
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ferroque posted:Israel is a highly advanced Western Democracy, you see, the progression of western democracies in recent history tells me the above statement is correct in the worst possible way
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May 19, 2018 20:02
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zeal posted:it's actually pretty cutting for a nyt profile of a conservative Gunshow Poophole posted:it's actually good and shits all over him Oh really? Good good, glad to be wrong I wonder if the NYT was all "every other publication with pretension to intellectualism has shat all over him, we need to do a similar article to appear with it"
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May 19, 2018 20:09
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Nebakenezzer posted:Oh really? Good good, glad to be wrong The real major difference is that they let a woman interview him, and because they fired all of their editors there was nobody to make sure her piece had a neutral voice.
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May 19, 2018 21:04
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https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/997930941782872066
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May 19, 2018 21:07
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glad to see maher and weiss admit that the idf are basically mindless animals
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May 19, 2018 21:27
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Nebakenezzer posted:
i havent read it but will mennaker talked about on twitter a bit and he says its a fantastic takedown of peterson
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May 19, 2018 22:10
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The only good Christopher Hitchens moment was when he drunkenly trashed Bill Maher and his audience as being human trash (he was too, but it was still hilarious to watch).
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May 19, 2018 22:25
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I know that name. Don't remember from where tho.
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May 19, 2018 22:25
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Horseshoe theory posted:The only good Christopher Hitchens moment was when he drunkenly trashed Bill Maher and his audience as being human trash (he was too, but it was still hilarious to watch).
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May 19, 2018 22:28
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Zeroisanumber posted:I know that name. Don't remember from where tho. He was a dodgy CIA spy for Reagan
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May 19, 2018 22:51
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As'ad AbuKhalil ripping into Maher and the other panelists of "Politically Incorrect" was the only good Maher show episode, BTW.
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May 19, 2018 22:53
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Jose posted:He was a dodgy CIA spy for Reagan hope the russians kill him
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May 19, 2018 23:09
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Yeah, it sure does suck when journalists don't take the appropriate precautions to conceal the identities of confidential sources, doesn't it?
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May 19, 2018 23:15
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Horseshoe theory posted:As'ad AbuKhalil ripping into Maher and the other panelists of "Politically Incorrect" was the only good Maher show episode, BTW. weird how when you go the other way to the anti-pc crowd they get mad 
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May 19, 2018 23:16
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 quote:An extremely strange episode that has engulfed official Washington over the last two weeks came to a truly bizarre conclusion on Friday night. And it revolves around a long-time, highly sketchy CIA operative, Stefan Halper.
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May 19, 2018 23:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQu7uUmO-U
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May 19, 2018 23:43
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the intercept getting salty thay someone's muscling in on their MO
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May 19, 2018 23:47
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https://twitter.com/sarayasin/status/997768365451169792
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May 20, 2018 00:18
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the FAILNNG NEW YORK TIMES
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May 20, 2018 00:19
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RaySmuckles posted:the fact that 10,000 unarmed civilians have been intentionally gunned down by an occupying nation in the last 2 months, 61 of them killed, is a surreal moment in modern history. these are dark times they killed 61 in one day. total kills for the whole march of return are way higher
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May 20, 2018 00:52
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Friendly reminder that the co-architects of Likud, Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, were out-and-out fascists (Italian-style fascism, which originated in Irgun and the Stern Gang).
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May 20, 2018 01:01
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i hope rosner winds up dead
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Mercrom posted:im pretty sure the point of non-violent protest isnt to make fascists feel bad, its to make everyone else realize they are fascists Okay but the problem here is everyone just accepting fascism is preferable to islam
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