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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)


da union bylaws say ya ahticul has to be about yea snobby before it can be approved for publicashun, rear end in a top hat

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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

da union bylaws say ya ahticul has to be about yea snobby before it can be approved for publicashun, rear end in a top hat

ya got too many, how you say uh, woids

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


It's weird how nobody is like "the chaos of Venezuela is what happens when 20 or so families own 70% of the property"

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014


want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Nebakenezzer posted:

It's weird how nobody is like "the chaos of Venezuela is what happens when 20 or so families own 70% of the property"

huh? according to every mainstream American media company, Venezuela is what happens when a radical socialist overturns free enterprise and establishes a rampant welfare state and other dangerous left-wing excesses

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/

what in cogitation

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos

Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

the failing nyt magazine

https://twitter.com/willystaley/status/1004466515419238400

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


apparently he actually went to UCSD but was trying to be funny or make a point or something?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/

want to guillotine these dweebs

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/
only capitalists should be able to form collectivist institutions -- things workers actually believe

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/

This is exactly the right person you want to get mad in the right way.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

apparently he actually went to UCSD but was trying to be funny or make a point or something?

https://twitter.com/kept_simple/status/1004710474489921536?s=21

e:

I guess I’m just a dumb state school graduate for not getting this??

https://twitter.com/willystaley/status/1004570777587367936?s=21

Badger of Basra has issued a correction as of 14:41 on Jun 7, 2018

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I guess he was trying to say that being dumb about things actually rules, but it didn't come off that way

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

That or being from the elite institutions actually places you in a bubble where you're out of touch. The biggest dumbasses seem to all come out of these prestigious places

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

KomradeX posted:

That or being from the elite institutions actually places you in a bubble where you're out of touch. The biggest dumbasses seem to all come out of these prestigious places

Ding ding ding. Elite schools don't teach you secret elite chemistry or whathaveyou, they teach the same courses as other colleges. The "elite" part is that they're places for the elite to network and learn class solidarity. The bubble is the whole point.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

I feel like somebody better at logic could at this point conclude "privilege = out-of-touch-ness"

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Nebakenezzer posted:

I feel like somebody better at logic could at this point conclude "privilege = out-of-touch-ness"

Full circle the way the term was envisioned as distinct from prejudice.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

apparently he actually went to UCSD but was trying to be funny or make a point or something?

to me, it reads like some kind of nihilistic "actually, most people are dumb" kind of thing. it's unclear whether he was going for "everyone is dumb except people from elite schools, who are out of touch with our dumbness" or "people from elite schools don't realize how dumb everyone is (including themselves)"

given how Totally Not Mad he's been all day, i'm pretty sure that what he was going for was the former but that he's realized it would be a bad idea to say so

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Goon Danton posted:

Ding ding ding. Elite schools don't teach you secret elite chemistry or whathaveyou, they teach the same courses as other colleges. The "elite" part is that they're places for the elite to network and learn class solidarity. The bubble is the whole point.

Basically it ingrains in you a certain idea of "normalcy" that consists of getting certain types of jobs and making certain amounts of money. The people I know who went to those schools and continued down that sort of life path (as consultants, lawyers, people in the tech industry, etc) basically live lives in some bizarro world where life is awesome and consists of living in nice places and traveling and doing fun things while not having to worry about your material well-being (or that of anyone close to you).

The best way I can think of describing it, if you were privileged enough to not grow up in poverty, is that they live their entire lives in the same bubble you may have been in as a child (and maybe college student if you didn't have to work to pay your way through). There's never a time when they really have to "grow up" and deal with the normal stresses of adulthood, because they easily transitioned from childhood into a very high paying career (and so did most/all of the people they know).

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Goon Danton posted:

Ding ding ding. Elite schools don't teach you secret elite chemistry or whathaveyou, they teach the same courses as other colleges. The "elite" part is that they're places for the elite to network and learn class solidarity. The bubble is the whole point.

they actually do teach "secret elite chemistry" at ivy league chem courses, where they go way more into esoteric topics than are commonly taught at state schools. they often have much higher math/phyisics requirements as well. this is more a product of the ivy league undergrad chem students being funneled into academic jobs, while middle-brow schools aim to get more students industry jobs or into med school.

not to say that elitism isn't a huge problem. look at the faculty roster in any elite chem department: not only did they go to elite graduate schools, they went to elite undergrad schools as well. in my graduate class, two people got nsf fellowships. one of them was from harvard in their undergroud, and turned in an incomplete application.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Goon Danton posted:

Ding ding ding. Elite schools don't teach you secret elite chemistry or whathaveyou, they teach the same courses as other colleges. The "elite" part is that they're places for the elite to network and learn class solidarity. The bubble is the whole point.

This isn't entirely wrong, but I think it's important to point out the sorts of institutions that basically grind their students to dust in terms of course difficulty while having nearly all courses taught by professors and having access to specialized lab equipment give undergrads a lot of good experience. Undergrad only also means those professors are only there to teach, so that's really awesome.

It's a niche, but the folks who didn't turn into rear end in a top hat, racist techbros mainly ended up teaching K-12 schools.

Ytlaya posted:

Basically it ingrains in you a certain idea of "normalcy" that consists of getting certain types of jobs and making certain amounts of money. The people I know who went to those schools and continued down that sort of life path (as consultants, lawyers, people in the tech industry, etc) basically live lives in some bizarro world where life is awesome and consists of living in nice places and traveling and doing fun things while not having to worry about your material well-being (or that of anyone close to you).

The best way I can think of describing it, if you were privileged enough to not grow up in poverty, is that they live their entire lives in the same bubble you may have been in as a child (and maybe college student if you didn't have to work to pay your way through). There's never a time when they really have to "grow up" and deal with the normal stresses of adulthood, because they easily transitioned from childhood into a very high paying career (and so did most/all of the people they know).

Growing up in a blue collar household and being the first in my family to attend college, there's a lot of truth here. If it makes you feel any better, a lot of those folks have turned a hard left over the years.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
for the letter of the thread, if not exactly the spirit
https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/1004893052664713218

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Office Pig posted:

for the letter of the thread, if not exactly the spirit
https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/1004893052664713218

post it in the dying trump voters thread :smaug:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Did the New York Times fail yet?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

PostNouveau posted:

Did the New York Times fail yet?

It's always in process, but never actually failed. More of an existential stink.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

The NY Times can not fail, it can only be failing

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the new york times is due for a historic turnaround, i hear they have an inside shot on poaching one of the nation's top racist homophobic climate deniers for the opinion page

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


zero interest in reading past the headline

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/1004965141073539072?s=21

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

It's extremely vapid and might as well be inventing a new word for the irrational and crazy people who disagree with measured and correct David Brooks.

Honestly the worst bit is when he ropes in debates between black writers and activist and drops:

quote:

I’d add that it’s a blunt fact that most great social reforms have happened in moments of optimism, not moments of pessimism, in moments of encouraging progress, not in moments of perceived threat.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1004966424635494400

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde
david brooks taught a course on humility at yale, and assigned his own columns as part of the reading

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

power word- Jeb! posted:

david brooks taught a course on humility at yale, and assigned his own columns as part of the reading

sounds like he's perfect for the position tbqh

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Imagine paying real money to take a class taught by David Brooks! :allears:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

power word- Jeb! posted:

david brooks taught a course on humility at yale, and assigned his own columns as part of the reading

aha

ahahahahahahahahahah

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

power word- Jeb! posted:

david brooks taught a course on humility at yale, and assigned his own columns as part of the reading

no wya lmao

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Algund Eenboom posted:

want to meet the guy who made this website http://newyorkerdumbdumbs.com/


quote:

We offer this open letter to communicate several specific ways in which you, and any employees who may not approve of the union but have been kowtowed into joining your univocal mob, are dumb-dumbs. We are motivated by the wondrously good feeling of speaking truths plainly. Also, we are economists, and feel a neverending urge to educate.

...

Top Tip: When you, a New Yorkerwriter, see the word “market,” you can safely read “reality.” The “market” isn’t a menacing animal of great global agency. It does not move in mysterious ways to displease you. It’s just another word for “for real through.”
...

The New Yorker-qua-business is a delicate molecule. It endeavors to exist in a hostile environment. It is what chemists call volatile. The number of writers can’t get too big or too small. (Implosion!) The pay can’t get too high. (Collapse!) The elasticity of subscribers must be respected. (Discounts!) The for-profit companies who advertise must not be alienated.

lol economics is a fake science with a fake Nobel prize

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Best Giraffe posted:

lol economics is a fake science with a fake Nobel prize

For fucks sake, literally everyone but chemists use the word volatility that way. Chemists just mean "evaporates easily"

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


economists also get paid much more than chemists or even most (non-petro) chemical engineers hahahaha kill all economists me all humans

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fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


ikanreed posted:

For fucks sake, literally everyone but chemists use the word volatility that way. Chemists just mean "evaporates easily"

in much of chemist, "evaporates easily" can turn rapidly into explosive



didn't stop grad students in the 70s and 80s from smoking next to evolving hydrogen gas tho. any biologist who whines about ethidium bromide is a lil bitch

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