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team overhead smash posted:After rereading Sanderson, does anyone else get the vibe that he is weirdly cool with arranged marriages? Like the first time I came across it in Elantris? Warbreaker? it was kind of like - "oh-ho, he's turned expectations round on their head". But it seems weirdly consistent even from characters like Laral when she berates Kaladin for thinking she needs saving from her marriage. Vivienna would have been an awful bride for Susebron, so only by weaseling out of the originally arranged marriage did they get a happy ending.
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Torrannor posted:Vivienna would have been an awful bride for Susebron, so only by weaseling out of the originally arranged marriage did they get a happy ending. The happy ending brought about by the arranged marriage. If they hadn't been thrown into an arranged marriage against they wills, they never would have found their **true love** with each other. You've got Siri and Susebron, Sarene and Raoden, Wax and Steris, Shallan and Adolin and a fair few more minor background character (Laral and Rashon). Dalinar is maybe a semi-exception as his first marriage was a train wreck, but even then it appears that there was true love between that eventually saved him, made him a good persona and presumably stopped the annihilation of the universe from a freed Odium.
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I started Warbreaker last week and I'm almost finished, but now I'm wondering: has Sanderson ever addressed the fact that Awakening seems to operate outside of normal conservation-of-energy rules with regard to Investiture? Like it seems that unless he introduces new rules, the fact that awakened objects can be sustained entirely by Breath means you could use them as an infinite energy source. You command Lifeless to walk forward in giant hamster wheels, or just awaken a turbine and command it to "spin", forever. Unless the Breath is someone diminished (which, idk, maybe it could be! it seems that not all Breaths are equal, after all), it seems like this is truly a "set it and forget it" scenario. Slanderer fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Aug 20, 2018 21:57
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Perfect gemstones will glow forever as well, basically if you do things right you can tap the spiritual realm for free energy
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Slanderer posted:I started Warbreaker last week and I'm almost finished, but now I'm wondering: has Sanderson ever addressed the fact that Awakening seems to operate outside of normal conservation-of-energy rules with regard to Investiture? Like it seems that unless he introduces new rules, the fact that awakened objects can be sustained entirely by Breath means you could use them as an infinite energy source. You command Lifeless to walk forward in giant hamster wheels, or just awaken a turbine and command it to "spin", forever. Unless the Breath is someone diminished (which, idk, maybe it could be! it seems that not all Breaths are equal, after all), it seems like this is truly a "set it and forget it" scenario. Awakened objects are still subject to some physical constraints--you need ichor-alcohol to keep Awakened creatures going or they eventually fall apart. Awakened objects are more iffy though, yeah. Still, you can probably exploit the system pretty easily. Nalthis is in for one hell of an industrial revolution when they figure that out. When you think about it, any "magic" system, even ones more grounded in physical laws, needs to pull energy from somewhere to make it work. Usually the answer is an immediate or delayed pull from the Spiritual Realm (feruchemy being a noted exception)--stormlight, Breath, etc. A Lashing on something to make it fall upwards is a hell of a lot of imparted energy when you work it out on paper--that's all stormlight, which is pulled from the SR.
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eke out posted:windrunners being able to manipulate pressure is definitely to make space travel easier in the future We already know FTL travel is planned for the 4th Mistborn series. team overhead smash posted:The happy ending brought about by the arranged marriage. If they hadn't been thrown into an arranged marriage against they wills, they never would have found their **true love** with each other. Nobility/Royalty and political marriages are a pretty standard thing in Fantasy. This is like asking if GRRM is ok with arranged marriages because they're everywhere in ASOIAF too. Slanderer posted:I started Warbreaker last week and I'm almost finished, but now I'm wondering: has Sanderson ever addressed the fact that Awakening seems to operate outside of normal conservation-of-energy rules with regard to Investiture? Like it seems that unless he introduces new rules, the fact that awakened objects can be sustained entirely by Breath means you could use them as an infinite energy source. You command Lifeless to walk forward in giant hamster wheels, or just awaken a turbine and command it to "spin", forever. Unless the Breath is someone diminished (which, idk, maybe it could be! it seems that not all Breaths are equal, after all), it seems like this is truly a "set it and forget it" scenario. Pretty sure Sanderson has either said outright that Breath is diminished over time, or hinted at it. He's at least stated that there's no net loss of Breath in that world (excluding any worldhopper shenanigans) even with Nightblood's insatiable appetite, or the Returned slowly burning Breath to keep going.
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That was in one of the work in progress drafts, but I don't think ever made it to canon.
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Friction will eventually destroy your awakened hamster wheel.
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Aug 21, 2018 06:25
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Slanderer posted:I started Warbreaker last week and I'm almost finished, but now I'm wondering: has Sanderson ever addressed the fact that Awakening seems to operate outside of normal conservation-of-energy rules with regard to Investiture? Like it seems that unless he introduces new rules, the fact that awakened objects can be sustained entirely by Breath means you could use them as an infinite energy source. You command Lifeless to walk forward in giant hamster wheels, or just awaken a turbine and command it to "spin", forever. Unless the Breath is someone diminished (which, idk, maybe it could be! it seems that not all Breaths are equal, after all), it seems like this is truly a "set it and forget it" scenario. They basically do this with chalk drawings in The Rithmatist to power trains, so chances are he’s considered the idea for his other books. I really wish that book would get a sequel.
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TheMadMilkman posted:They basically do this with chalk drawings in The Rithmatist to power trains, so chances are he’s considered the idea for his other books. It ended on a couple of annoying cliffhangers as well. Apparently, in 2014 he was researching for the sequel called The Aztlanian and it involved a lot of S.American mythology? He shelved it because he wanted to do a lot more research on it and didn't want to get details wrong. Unsure if there are any updated States of the Sanderson with more info though? Edit: I think this is the latest update I could find, from the 2017 State of the Sanderson: quote:The Rithmatist 
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All the updates about the Rithmatist sequel just say that same thing, that he needs to do research and doesn't have the time to do so. I think he may have posted somewhere about a research assistant so if you know anyone with a post grad degree in meso-american studies send them to him.
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eke out posted:also the very unscientific impression i got from reading WoBs was that the Stormfather/Nightwatcher/Sibling don't want to bond more than one at a time, as opposed to the Bondsmiths refusing to allow, say, a second Stormfather member despite the option being available. The only thing we know about Bondsmith spren is that they are "specific", which I interpret as "unique". So I don't know if that means Cusicesh would also be fair game? Not that we know what it does anyway. Slanderer posted:I never really thought about this, but was Shallan's lightweaving augmented by the presence of the perpendicularity? I think both Shallan and Jasnah remark that maybe her illusions were mixed with soulcasting (to add mass? to make the illusions bleed real blood?), but also she created 100x more at once than ever before Shallan actually remarks on this when she starts Lightweaving, because Yalb and a bunch of other people from the collections she lost appeared. Pattern tells her it's because Dalinar's Perpendicularity has made them closer to the Spiritual Realm, so everyone she's ever Connected with is available. Infinite Karma posted:I still say that Dalinar is going to reunite the splinters of Honor and become the new Honor. So he'll become the Stormfather instead of summoning him. What, not on Team Adonalsium? I wouldn't really want this though, because spren are splinters and spren are cool.
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Evil Fluffy posted:We already know FTL travel is planned for the 4th Mistborn series. I mean fantasy has always fetishized Feudalism to a weird degree so that isn’t a great counter you can argue they are just parroting what came before but I don’t know if I buy it. Though more on topic I just finished rereading The first mistborn book and despite reading most of his other stories coming back it’s still my favorite.
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Leng posted:What, not on Team Adonalsium? I wouldn't really want this though, because spren are splinters and spren are cool. If Dalinar unites and conquers the Cosmere, that'd would be neat, I'm just not sure he's the Mary Sue out of all the Mary Sues who's going to do it.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Pretty sure Sanderson has either said outright that Breath is diminished over time, or hinted at it. He's at least stated that there's no net loss of Breath in that world (excluding any worldhopper shenanigans) even with Nightblood's insatiable appetite, or the Returned slowly burning Breath to keep going. I saw a response from a Q&A of "well maybe things lose one breath after a while (?)", but idk what he'll really decide on. But if he said that about loss of Breath, than I wonder if that means that Nightblood doesn't consume breath, just absorbs it (which would help explain why it's by far the most invested object we've seen, despite being made with only 1000 breaths). And if that's true, I wonder what it implies about what happens to the Breath consumed by Returned. Does Endowment take back a Breath from each Returned every week, in the same way that Nightblood takes breath? Now that I'm thinking of parallels, though--Nightblood only needs breath when wielded outside of its (aluminum?) sheath (rules on this seem to change slightly between Warbreaker and Oathbringer: Vasher is able to throw Nightblood away (and prevent it from taking his breath), but Szeth couldnt let go of it until it was sheathed). Differences aside, it seems that aluminum prevents Nightblood from taking Breath from its wielder. I wonder if a Returned, lying in an aluminum coffin, might no longer lose a Breath every week (if indeed Endowment is taking the Breaths back)
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I think its more than Nightblood continues to try to suck in breaths. When in its scabbard it can't. A returned who can't suck in a breath will die, hence an aluminum coffin would be a death sentence even if there were a ton of people outside of it trying to donate their breath. Also I think WoB is that the breaths consumed by nightblood return in their raw form to the spiritual realm. But that might be one of those things where he only considered it without making it cannon.
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M_Gargantua posted:I think its more than Nightblood continues to try to suck in breaths. When in its scabbard it can't. A returned who can't suck in a breath will die, hence an aluminum coffin would be a death sentence even if there were a ton of people outside of it trying to donate their breath. yeah i think it's become a much bigger question now that it's being used against otherwise-immortal creatures - and he has confirmed that (i have no idea what to spoiler in this thread, frankly) it's going to cause permadeath to the Fused. And it's a safe assumption that it'll cause permadeath to the Unmade as well, though I'm not sure if they're strictly speaking immortal in the same way the Fused are? anyways it may not be a black hole for Investiture but it definitely fucks it up real real good
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Permadeath and being converted to raw investiture in the spiritual realm are essentially the same thing. Permadeath for the unmade would send their consciousness to the beyond like everything else.
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eke out posted:yeah i think it's become a much bigger question now that it's being used against otherwise-immortal creatures - and he has confirmed that (i have no idea what to spoiler in this thread, frankly) it's going to cause permadeath to the Fused. And it's a safe assumption that it'll cause permadeath to the Unmade as well, though I'm not sure if they're strictly speaking immortal in the same way the Fused are? anyways it may not be a black hole for Investiture but it definitely fucks it up real real good I get a very "Chaz-from-Sluggy-Freelance" vibe from Nightblood. And I'm really ok with that!
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Brandon did a rough outline of his writing schedule in April: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/332-jordancon-2018/#e9595 Brandon Sanderson posted:So, here's the grand Cosmere timeline as I have it right now. I'm going to write Wax & Wayne 4 this fall. This will be the end of the Wax & Wayne sequence. They have been really fun to write, those books. And I've got some really good Wayne stuff in this one, so be excited. So, I'll finish that, and that is the next Cosmere book I will do. January 1st, my requirement is I... What I'm trying to do now, is I'm trying to do half my time Stormlight, half my time other stuff. That's the kind of balance I'm looking to do for my sanity. So, January 1st is when it's been 18 months since I turned in Oathbringer, and at that point, I have 18 months to get Book 4 done. So, I will start January 1st writing Stormlight 4, rain or shine. Everything else kinda has to be put aside. And then, we'll go until that book is done. So he will start writing The Lost Metal this fall, before beginning to work on Stormlight 4 in January next year. Since fall begins in September, I think that he will begin writing Wax&Wayne 4 in three days, and he will finish his part of the writing process some time in December. Then the book goes to the editors, and shortly afterwards to the printing presses. So we will get the book in February! *stamps with his feet* I need my Cosmere fix!!!
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Torrannor posted:Brandon did a rough outline of his writing schedule in April: Wow, I'm a little surprised there's not another unannounced juggernaut of a series in there before Cosmere's over. But I like this plan overall. Also, most books take more like 9-12 months to go from turn-in to publication date. So more likely we get WW4 fall or winter 2019.
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I'm jazzed about 80s cold war stuff set in the Mistborn universe e: kinda morbid he's planning what he'll be able to write before he dies and he's only 42, but totally realistic mewse fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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Jorenko posted:Wow, I'm a little surprised there's not another unannounced juggernaut of a series in there before Cosmere's over. But I like this plan overall. *lalalala*Not hearing you!*lalalala* That would mean Brandon only has about six to nine months to turn in Stormlight 4 if he wants to meet his self-imposed deadline. Writing a 1000+ pages book in that short of a time is just... he's a robot, right? Also, I would like you to pay attention to the very last sentence of the quote: "We're just gonna keep that as our goal moving forward, and try not to add too much more to it, though there will be novellas and things like that as they pop up." Perhaps there will be an accidental Stormlight trilogy to bridge the gap between books 5 and 6? It wouldn't surprise me at all.
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I thought he was going to be writing a lot of Skyward in between Mistborn and Stormlight. Surprised he said maybe more Elantris or Warbreaker
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Torrannor posted:That would mean Brandon only has about six to nine months to turn in Stormlight 4 if he wants to meet his self-imposed deadline. Writing a 1000+ pages book in that short of a time is just... he's a robot, right? From what he said (18 months + 18 months) it seems like he's giving himself 3 years per stormlight book which means he expects to be turning in the final revision of stormlight 4 around early 2020. e: no wait he says January 1st is 18 months so mid-2020
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Sab669 posted:I thought he was going to be writing a lot of Skyward in between Mistborn and Stormlight. Surprised he said maybe more Elantris or Warbreaker I think Skyward is done or mostly done. He posted a picture of an Actual Book on facebook in the last few weeks.
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Yea but there's also books 2+3. I guess it's Sanderson we're talking about so maybe he already wrote those, but I thought in the State of the Sanderson last year he said he'd be doing those projects. E; Yea - 2018 Skyward 2019 Wax & Wayne 4 + Skyward 2 2020 Stormlight 4 + Skyward 3 Although I guess he was talking after Stormlight 4 mostly so 
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mewse posted:e: kinda morbid he's planning what he'll be able to write before he dies and he's only 42, but totally realistic I think he's just more attuned to the issue than other authors, since he finished WoT after Robert Jordan died. And he's mapped out a pretty ambitious plan for Cosmere novels. He has about 20 years to finish Stormlight if he really releases one every 3 years, so he will be over 60 then. There's always the possibility of physical or mental decline, I appreciate that he thinks about stuff like this. I'm still very sad about Robert Jordan. And Frank Herbert. At least the former left enough notes and got a worthy successor to finish his work.
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Aug 29, 2018 20:02
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according to a couple days ago on reddit, he's currently writing skyward two
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Torrannor posted:I'm still very sad about Robert Jordan. And Frank Herbert. At least the former left enough notes and got a worthy successor to finish his work. Amen
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Torrannor posted:Brandon did a rough outline of his writing schedule in April: Jazzed for every single part of this, but especially the next Mistborn series.
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Aug 29, 2018 21:43
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I was avoiding Elantris but it seems like I'll just have to read it.
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Torrannor posted:I think he's just more attuned to the issue than other authors, since he finished WoT after Robert Jordan died. And he's mapped out a pretty ambitious plan for Cosmere novels. He has about 20 years to finish Stormlight if he really releases one every 3 years, so he will be over 60 then. There's always the possibility of physical or mental decline, I appreciate that he thinks about stuff like this. I'm still very sad about Robert Jordan. And Frank Herbert. At least the former left enough notes and got a worthy successor to finish his work.
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aparmenideanmonad posted:Iain Banks is the worst one for me, though I suppose it helped that he never really wrote an overarching series that was left without a finale. I really appreciate Sanderson's realistic approach. I bet he lines up a successor if he gets sick before SLA is done. The Hydrogen Sonata was all about endings though. He wrote it knowing he had cancer and was dying, so he wrote a book about the slow decline and ‘death’ of a whole civilization.
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Does anyone know if there's a way to get the latest Legion novella without buying the omnibus and getting the first two again?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Does anyone know if there's a way to get the latest Legion novella without buying the omnibus and getting the first two again? There is, but it'll cost you more. https://subterraneanpress.com/slider-tabs/just-announced/legion-lies-of-the-beholder
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Ahh sub press. Classic. I expect there'll be an epub around when the mass market copies drop.
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Just finished Crown of Swords. That book is one colossal turd. The only redeeming factors are Tylin constantly trying to bang Mat and the introduction of the gholams. The last handful of books have followed the formula of: - people talking - Nynaeve being an awful character - introduce 200 more characters that I can’t keep the names straight - more people talking - Nynaeve being an awful character - Rand travels to $random_city and “conquers” it while killing a wet fart of a foresaken in the process. In Lord of Chaos, substitute “rad as gently caress last 5 chapters” for my last bullet point. I’m determined to slog through these next few books before the Sanderson ones but goddamn, the signal-to-noise ratio is really bad.
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I'm on chapter 28 of Crown. Only reason I'm even that far is because I listened to 9 hours of the audio book while driving across the state. That was 2 weekends ago, now. Every time I try to read I just lose focus after 5 minutes
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