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Orv
May 4, 2011
Also I meant bad place to start as in I wanted to do it chronologically, but when I searched for a list I didn't see it in the top like six or seven so I assumed it was a bad place to start. Then I got the news about 50 books and said gently caress it and finished it.

It's good. As many problems as any Warhammer book has, but perfectly fine.

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D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Inquisition Wars is a great book but JFC gently caress the ending of that book. It pissed me off so bad.

I don't see the new Horusian wars series get mentioned much here but it is really really good.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
The problem with a lot of the big moments of the Heresy is they were basically all just names that happened 10k years ago and then the novel series happened. What's now a clearly (for GW...) defined timeline was, bwck then, very much up in the air. It's just so old now that it's started to merge into the foundations of the last four editions worth of fluff.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

ill trust games workshop when they publish an official style guide that tells you how to pronounce roboute

Orv
May 4, 2011
Rub'out.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

PupsOfWar posted:

ill trust games workshop when they publish an official style guide that tells you how to pronounce roboute

Robo-oot

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Its Roo-Boot Gillyman. Seriously

Linnear
Nov 3, 2010
Finished Scars. I still don't care much about that legion, but Chris Wraight made a nice tale out of it. I'm going to re-read the first three books of the HH next, as I've forgotten most of it. Since I lost all three books, I took a look on Amazon for Horus Rising, but it looks like they don't have it because of some imminent re-release or something.

I did find this, though.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

PupsOfWar posted:

ill trust games workshop when they publish an official style guide that tells you how to pronounce roboute

Row-boat. :colbert:

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Deptfordx posted:

I still can't ever see myself reading a Age of Sigmar novel. Not to cast shade on your tastes, it's just a combination of loving the Old World/total disinterest in Trademark World.

Spear of Shadows is classic Warhammer. Anyone worried about trademarky bullshit at this point is simply not following AoS and clinging onto the trope garbage GW threw out in the early days of AoS.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Adeptus Titanicus was just rereleased. What good Titan books exist? I've read Mechanicum years ago, and I think that's it.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Philthy posted:

Adeptus Titanicus was just rereleased. What good Titan books exist? I've read Mechanicum years ago, and I think that's it.

Titanicus by Abnett.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Philthy posted:

Adeptus Titanicus was just rereleased. What good Titan books exist? I've read Mechanicum years ago, and I think that's it.

The best parts of Helsreach are its Titan related stuff. Mind you I'm pretty much the only person on earth who doesn't like the book in general, so you'll probably also like the rest of it a lot too.

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Arquinsiel posted:

The problem with a lot of the big moments of the Heresy is they were basically all just names that happened 10k years ago and then the novel series happened. What's now a clearly (for GW...) defined timeline was, bwck then, very much up in the air. It's just so old now that it's started to merge into the foundations of the last four editions worth of fluff.

Slaves to darkness really made me realize that despite 50 drat books there was actually almost gently caress all actual books about the war itself. The whole beginning section with Volk and the iron warriors fighting the resurgent ultramarines + shattered legions and being starved of ammo and just barely holding on made me really want a book about the Horus Heresy from the view of some ground troops or of a campaign itself ala the forgeworld black books.

Pharos was actually really good for this reason as well and I quite liked haleys attempt at aping ADB's style for his nightlords warband.

I also enjoyed perturabo's slow realization that he was basically the only one on the traitor side fighting the war as a war and the rest of them were becoming more and more subsumed by the warp and goals that ran counter to anything they were actually trying to do.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Zasze posted:

Slaves to darkness really made me realize that despite 50 drat books there was actually almost gently caress all actual books about the war itself. The whole beginning section with Volk and the iron warriors fighting the resurgent ultramarines + shattered legions and being starved of ammo and just barely holding on made me really want a book about the Horus Heresy from the view of some ground troops or of a campaign itself ala the forgeworld black books.

Pharos was actually really good for this reason as well and I quite liked haleys attempt at aping ADB's style for his nightlords warband.

I also enjoyed perturabo's slow realization that he was basically the only one on the traitor side fighting the war as a war and the rest of them were becoming more and more subsumed by the warp and goals that ran counter to anything they were actually trying to do.
I've been reading a lot of the later Battletech fluff of late and it's becoming increasingly obvious that everyone is still writing WWII in space, they're just reading a lot more history books before doing so. Unfortunately WWII tends to be described in terms much more suited to the static warfare period of the Western Front of WWI, so even that language is just plain wrong in that context, let alone in a 3D battlespace where the idea of landing "a regiment" on a planet is a big deal.

Opentarget
Mar 17, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfGPMJ8A0QY

New Astartes episode.

It's good.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

That's some proper bolter going on right there. :allears:

The gently caress were the little orb drone counter measure things though?

Opentarget
Mar 17, 2009
They go off and intercept missiles. I had to watch it twice to figure that out. Are they real in the fluff? I'd never read about them before.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Philthy posted:

Adeptus Titanicus was just rereleased. What good Titan books exist? I've read Mechanicum years ago, and I think that's it.

Betrayer has a couple of great Titan fights. And some fun insight into the early Dark Mechanicum.

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Philthy posted:

Adeptus Titanicus was just rereleased. What good Titan books exist? I've read Mechanicum years ago, and I think that's it.

i seem to recall that ye olde black templars novels had some good Titan porn in them while being otherwise unremarkable

https://www.goodreads.com/series/192594-black-templars

i read those as a small child though and thus cannot guarantee this

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
We got an official pronunciation for his name

Row-BOOT-ay GILL-uh-man

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Shut up, Leandros.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

One of my favourite parts of the eisenhorn series is that despite us knowing that the inquisition is universally feared throughout the imperium, his doctor girlfriend just doesn’t get it. And despite his warning that a guy is a literal loving heretic, she loosens his bonds because his wrists hurt a little.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Like stormtrooopers boarding the ship in the opening of New Hope, cept infinitely more terrifying.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

MariusLecter posted:

Like stormtrooopers boarding the ship in the opening of New Hope, cept infinitely more terrifying.

I like how they just walk right up, firing, with zero tactical shits given.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Yessss. This is fantastic, but man 1 minute long episodes is just ughhhhh. I know it probably took the dude(s) so much to do even that.

I just want another movie of this. Good god.

Orv
May 4, 2011
You know I've always thought of the explosive portion of a bolter round as delayed, even a little bit, but I guess if your bullet is actually a rocket then there's not a lot of time you need to delay to explode inside the average Astartes target.

Learn something new about space murder every day.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Orv posted:

You know I've always thought of the explosive portion of a bolter round as delayed, even a little bit, but I guess if your bullet is actually a rocket then there's not a lot of time you need to delay to explode inside the average Astartes target.

Learn something new about space murder every day.

They're described as having a delayed explosive warhead in a lot of the canon.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Philthy posted:

I just want another movie of this. Good god.

It's a shame Ultramarines sucked so hard, and presumably scared GW off movies for awhile. They could totally do good straight-to-DVD CGI movies, like Resident Evil, if they went with an actual experienced film studio and didn't just assume that a guy who was good at writing books would have to be good at writing screenplays too.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Guy Goodbody posted:

It's a shame Ultramarines sucked so hard, and presumably scared GW off movies for awhile. They could totally do good straight-to-DVD CGI movies, like Resident Evil, if they went with an actual experienced film studio and didn't just assume that a guy who was good at writing books would have to be good at writing screenplays too.
Well there is this tiny tidbit from the latest financial report:


"Annual Report 2017-2018 posted:


We will also pilot some new product formats in new markets

It might mean nothing of the sort of course, as the rest of the sentence mentions the Space Marines heroes thing and increasing GW's presence in Japan.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Fearless posted:

They're described as having a delayed explosive warhead in a lot of the canon.

Ah that explains that.

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
The Hellsreach series on YouTube borrows its audio from the book on tape (showing my age here), right? I’ve never listened to a black library book before, but I’m thinking about giving it a shot while I’m off on my morning constitutionals.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

The Hellsreach series on YouTube borrows its audio from the book on tape (showing my age here), right? I’ve never listened to a black library book before, but I’m thinking about giving it a shot while I’m off on my morning constitutionals.

Yep. It's a good one. The Eisenhorn series is good too. Basically, just like the print versions, anything by Abnett or ADB is going to be worth listening to. Toby Longworth is a pretty good narrator, though some of his female voices are very questionable.

I really wish the Night Lords series got the audio treatment.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Groetgaffel posted:

Well there is this tiny tidbit from the latest financial report:


It might mean nothing of the sort of course, as the rest of the sentence mentions the Space Marines heroes thing and increasing GW's presence in Japan.

Are you ready for Warhammer 40,000: the Anime?

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Technowolf posted:

Are you ready for Warhammer 40,000: the Anime?

We've had Tau since like third edition dude.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Groetgaffel posted:

We've had Tau since like third edition dude.

I was going to pithily respond "My dude we've had Eldar since first" but then I just sat there thinking about which was more anime until I became disgusted with myself.

The answer is they both are, send help.

Linnear
Nov 3, 2010
There was a manga or doujinshi about 40k, but it wasn't quite that awesome since it was about the various armored vehicles represented as girls. I think the main character was a Sisters of Battle variant Rhino transport.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Fearless posted:

They're described as having a delayed explosive warhead in a lot of the canon.

I never considered that description of being a very long delay at all. Like milliseconds after impact where the "Mass Reactive" part kicks in where I read it as the round reacting to hitting something, it's either gone through or not. Either way it's gonna make a boom.

Orv
May 4, 2011

MariusLecter posted:

I never considered that description of being a very long delay at all. Like milliseconds after impact where the "Mass Reactive" part kicks in where I read it as the round reacting to hitting something, it's either gone through or not. Either way it's gonna make a boom.

I figured it was basically Cool Long. Bullet enters, if it's not immediately fatal it's long enough for a fearful expression from the target, pop. You know that whole movie deal.

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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I always thought the sensible thing to do would be to just ignore the timer and detonate when a sensor at the back of the round trips :shrug:

The other option is to do like a mortar round and use a deceleration trigger.

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