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Mel Mudkiper posted:Also aren't throws literally illegal in BJJ? That's why we do takedowns. Slamming someone from guard is illegal. Judo throwing during standup isn't
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Mega Man gi Oh my god this is so depressing
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Aug 28, 2018 16:50
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spb posted:Slamming someone from guard is illegal. Judo throwing during standup isn't Ah, that's why I got confused. Sorry, white belt poo poo
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Aug 28, 2018 16:57
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Oh my god this is so depressing This is the biggest problem BJJ has imo. A 4 month white belt who is my size and strong, and has learned quickly, was rolling with me yesterday. I truly knew he was getting into BJJ when instead of standing with me, he just sat down on his rear end.
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Aug 28, 2018 17:05
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I do remember someone giving the advice earlier in the thread that instead of starting on your knees or rear end start on your feet and squat to meet your opponent and its what I do pretty much every time I roll. But yeah, even most of the higher belts start the roll on the ground.
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Aug 28, 2018 17:09
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My edgy BJJ opinion is that slams should be legal (at the very least for any ruleset that allows jumping guard) and incorporated into training as early as possible.
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Aug 28, 2018 17:11
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My standup is soooo bad. I mean I've been doing this for a year and so have improved my BJJ skills but my standup sucks rear end and I know its super important since it dictates everything on the ground (who is on top/bottom)
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Aug 28, 2018 18:27
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The guy in the vid who got a tibia and fibula fractured has a gofundme for his recovery if anyone wants to chip in. https://www.gofundme.com/snapped-pick-me-up-while-i039m-down
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Aug 28, 2018 18:50
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spb posted:My standup is soooo bad. If your academy offers Judo or NoGi takedowns make that part of your schedule. Since I have I have noticed my standup game has improved.
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Aug 28, 2018 19:14
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I'm developing a file of judo techniques that I teach for exploiting BJJ standup habits. It's fun stuff. My favourite is forcing an open grip (left v right) fight, which just totally fucks people up if they've never trained it.
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Aug 28, 2018 19:20
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I mean don't get me wrong I like the idea of eventually learning some throws. We have done underhooking drills from standup which I am surprisingly decent at.
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Aug 28, 2018 19:58
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Learning Takedowns makes sense if you want to do a little competition because you'd be able to own a lot of guys super stressed out by the fact they aren't rolling like they are used to and make a ton of mistakes. I'm talking as the guy that got owned a lot.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:03
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Learning any sequence of moves and being able to chain attacks is important. Dictating where the fight takes place is super important.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:09
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question, is it legal to drop some sick Dan Severn suplexes
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Aug 28, 2018 20:13
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JaySB posted:Learning any sequence of moves and being able to chain attacks is important. Dictating where the fight takes place is super important. Good luck stopping me from just sitting down!!
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Aug 28, 2018 20:17
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I find a left grip right inside the armpit is effective at shutting down 98% off bjj takedown attempts, and sets up the koga-style ippon seoi when they try to figure out what to do about the grip.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:18
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Nestharken posted:My edgy BJJ opinion is that slams should be legal (at the very least for any ruleset that allows jumping guard) and incorporated into training as early as possible. My BJJ opinion is that most of us are hobbiests and I already worry about overwrought Meatheads doing dumb poo poo without it being technically ok. Jumping full guard should also be disallowed due to injury rate. I will support that any time someone gets a solid lift the person being lifted should concede their position or take the fall with defensive ukemi in recognition that they could've just been hosed.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:36
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Xguard86 posted:My BJJ opinion is that most of us are hobbiests and I already worry about overwrought Meatheads doing dumb poo poo without it being technically ok. Give a point or two to the guy that lifted the other enough that he could slam him should be in the rules. As for Mel's question, Suplexes can be legal as long as they don't throw the other guy directly on the neck but are a risky move because refs can consider the throw a slam and DQ you.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:45
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ihop posted:I find a left grip right inside the armpit is effective at shutting down 98% off bjj takedown attempts, and sets up the koga-style ippon seoi when they try to figure out what to do about the grip. Similar, but I teach people to fight for inside position and take morote or some kind of tsurikomi goshi variant. That switch ippon is for when someone takes inside position against you.
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Aug 28, 2018 21:20
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Mel Mudkiper posted:question, is it legal to drop some sick Dan Severn suplexes I think you can do the side-on suplex but not the one that goes straight back under IBJJF rules? They’ll disqualify you if the head hits the ground before the rest of the body. The IBJJF are losers though, and I am not an expert on their lovely rules
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Aug 28, 2018 21:25
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My school does have a judo class on Thursdays after bjj that I will have to check out. I haven't gone yet because I tend to gas after bjj.
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Aug 28, 2018 21:25
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I don't compete under IBJJF rules but I used to suplex people all the time. The suplex and lateral drop are my 2 favorite takedowns followed by the blast double. We also have both wrestling and judo classes (though not on the public schedule) at my gym.
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Aug 28, 2018 22:04
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my instructor had a funny mini rant the other day about how he hates doing tournaments sometimes because he has to sit down and figure out whats allowed every time
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Aug 28, 2018 22:06
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Neon Belly posted:Good luck stopping me from just sitting down!! 2 points for me if I touch you!
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Aug 28, 2018 22:18
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Mel Mudkiper posted:We have done underhooking drills from standup which I am surprisingly decent at. are you talking about pummeling?
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Aug 28, 2018 22:20
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Xguard86 posted:My BJJ opinion is that most of us are hobbiests and I already worry about overwrought Meatheads doing dumb poo poo without it being technically ok. A blue belt jumped guard on me once. I'm a white belt and had never seen it before or practiced it at all. I was incredibly lucky he didn't snap my knees and I just sprawled forward and slammed him into the mat super hard and don't feel bad about it in the slightest.
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Aug 28, 2018 22:40
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old.flv posted:are you talking about pummeling? Sort of We didn't start in the clinch but instead at distance and battled for an underhook clinch and then broke again
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Aug 28, 2018 22:51
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Even the laziest lifting program (an hour a week) seems to have greatly lowered my injury rate. I’ll bet that each hour of weights/yoga you do allows you to train at least three or four extra hours of grappling per week up to a certain point. You've probably posted it somewhere int he last few pages, but what's your 1h per week program? I'm starting to think about lifting once per week. Something like bench-squat-dead 5/3/1?
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Aug 29, 2018 18:11
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Welp, add Tennis Elbow to my list of BJJ injuries. Gonna tape my forearm and keep rolling though
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Aug 29, 2018 19:41
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Welp, add Tennis Elbow to my list of BJJ injuries. I got this also but it went away after taking a week off
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Welp, add Tennis Elbow to my list of BJJ injuries. Just rest, you really don't want tendonitis to become chronic because you tried to train through it like an idiot.
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CommonShore posted:You've probably posted it somewhere int he last few pages, but what's your 1h per week program? I'm starting to think about lifting once per week. Something like bench-squat-dead 5/3/1? I went the opposite way because I’ve got weights at home. 5/3/1 with no accessory work, four day split, one lift per day. You could do bench/squat one week and dead/press the next week?
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Aug 29, 2018 19:56
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Resting golf and tennis elbows is the best option. I have also used this theraband bar thing and the exercises listed to help calm flare ups in the past: https://gist.github.com/mloskot/25f58cef86a8d937f42b1330d065a961
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Just rest, you really don't want tendonitis to become chronic because you tried to train through it like an idiot. Thanks for the tip Not sure yet what's a work throughable injury and what's a resting injury
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Thanks for the tip Every injury is a resting injury. Overworked ligaments are injured because they're overworked -- continuing to work them is just going to make the problem worse. Something like a mild ankle sprain you might be able to go to class and just do groundwork drills with no sparring, but as a general rule, always just rest until the injury is healed. I'd say a good half of the really serious training injuries I've seen happened because someone was training hurt. e: cartilage damage is kind of its own thing. I have a torn labrum and some meniscus damage that I train with, which are problems that won't go away but aren't serious enough for me to get surgery. But I've done and continue to do PT to make sure the joints are stable, took time off and did rehab when the injuries first occurred, and when my knee or shoulder get sore I take time off of training until they feel better. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 29, 2018 |
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I literally tape my body together and train every drat day. soon I will die
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Every injury is a resting injury. Overworked ligaments are injured because they're overworked -- continuing to work them is just going to make the problem worse. Something like a mild ankle sprain you might be able to go to class and just do groundwork drills with no sparring, but as a general rule, always just rest until the injury is healed. Yeah the worry for me is that something almost always hurts so if I rested everything every time I would barely ever be able to actually do it.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yeah the worry for me is that something almost always hurts so if I rested everything every time I would barely ever be able to actually do it. There's a difference between training sore and training injured. But the thing about tendinitis is that unlike, say, a bone bruise, it won't ever go away unless you rest it.
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butros posted:Resting golf and tennis elbows is the best option. Therabands and deadlifts have done wonderings for my chronic tennis elbow. Also, not death gripping during rolls.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:There's a difference between training sore and training injured. But the thing about tendinitis is that unlike, say, a bone bruise, it won't ever go away unless you rest it. good to know, I will let it heal then. Neon Belly posted:Therabands and deadlifts have done wonderings for my chronic tennis elbow. Also, not death gripping during rolls. I bought one of those grip stress balls last week to help with grip anyways so I will probably just use that regularly once the injury is gone to condition it
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