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Dr Pepper posted:This is the thread for good anime original stuff. What the!?
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 04:22 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 13:07 |
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Jorge Saotome from Yuyu Hakusho.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 04:48 |
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livingfruitvirus posted:Dragon Ball Super has some really good episodes that many consider filler, even though the series is entirely anime original, filler has pretty much evolved into also meaning "anything that's not part of a larger story arc." None of that is actually filled though since the anime is the source material. And yeah most of that stuff is great.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 08:59 |
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Speaking of amazing filler. Goku and Picollo taking drivers lessons will never not be hilarious.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 09:05 |
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Dr Pepper posted:This is the thread for good anime original stuff. What the gently caress
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 11:59 |
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livingfruitvirus posted:Dragon Ball Super has some really good episodes that many consider filler, even though the series is entirely anime original, filler has pretty much evolved into also meaning "anything that's not part of a larger story arc." That seems like a really bad definition of filler
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 14:15 |
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livingfruitvirus posted:Dragon Ball Super has some really good episodes that many consider filler, even though the series is entirely anime original, filler has pretty much evolved into also meaning "anything that's not part of a larger story arc." It hasn't, actually
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 15:17 |
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Namtab posted:That seems like a really bad definition of filler Its a bad definition but its pretty much the way the greater fandom uses the word and that is what it will mean in five years
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 16:47 |
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Filler as a concept in the traditional sense has basically died out, anyway. You barely get long running shonen like you used to and people are enraged by a single episode of My Hero Academia being filler. What was the most recent anime with an actual filler arc? Sword Art Online II, kind of? And even then it was just expanding on material that did exist.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 17:18 |
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Endorph posted:Filler as a concept in the traditional sense has basically died out, anyway. You barely get long running shonen like you used to and people are enraged by a single episode of My Hero Academia being filler. What was the most recent anime with an actual filler arc? Sword Art Online II, kind of? And even then it was just expanding on material that did exist. that's The one good thing to come out of the godforsaken one-cour anime adaptations of huge manga
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 17:20 |
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 17:52 |
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Endorph posted:Filler as a concept in the traditional sense has basically died out, anyway. You barely get long running shonen like you used to and people are enraged by a single episode of My Hero Academia being filler. What was the most recent anime with an actual filler arc? Sword Art Online II, kind of? And even then it was just expanding on material that did exist. Oh yeah that reminds me the two filler arcs of Railgun were good, especially the one that filled in a giant 'what happened to this character? *shrug*' thing the manga did.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 18:33 |
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So filler is character episodes in shounen anims.
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# ? Aug 23, 2018 19:04 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Do movies count because that One Piece movie about how much working at Ghibli sucks is good. Pretty much the only real complaints with the movie is that the middle portion is kind of aimless (everything between the boat race and the final fight) but you gotta make film length somehow, and that the designs get a bit too low detail and noodly in some scenes, but considering that it's a yearly shonen film working with a slightly higher than OVA budget and a slightly longer than OVA schedule, i'd rather things get lower detail than lower fluidity, especially in a film with such an active tone. And it makes up for that with very, very striking direction and imagery, especially in the last third. The film'd work even if it wasn't One Piece and even if it didn't have that subtext about Hosoda's experiences at Ghibli, but both of those things add to it, and likewise the fact that it'd be good even without those things adds to those elements. Frankly its my favorite of Hosoda's films.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 01:58 |
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Filler in Dragon Ball Super is an interesting thing since the anime does not adapt the manga or viceversa. No, both adapt a script that we'll never get to see, so we can only guess what parts are original and what parts come from Toriyama himself, utilizing the differences between both as a guide. It's an ultimately meaningless discussion though, since again, we'll never get to see the original material and said original material was meant to be a skeleton to be expanded upon by Toei's writers and Toyotaro to begin with. Anyways, I just came to say that I agree with Saint Seiya's Asgard Arc, which I personally consider the height of anime-original material: so good that everything canon that came afterwards couldn't measure up to it. Admittedly, that's because Poseidon is where the series takes a nosedive in quality and we finally learn that Kurumada is actually kind of a terrible writer that hit gold (heh) completely by accident with the amazing Gold Saints arc. I'll add my own example here so this post isn't...well...filler, and point out My Hero Academia's anime adaptation greatly expanding upon things that the manga skipped due to its fast pacing, such as several battles in the school tournament, probably most importantly Yaoyorozu vs Tokoyami, since this is a moment that affects her performance and confidence later but we never got to actually see it originally.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 20:17 |
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Endorph posted:Filler as a concept in the traditional sense has basically died out, anyway. You barely get long running shonen like you used to and people are enraged by a single episode of My Hero Academia being filler. What was the most recent anime with an actual filler arc? Sword Art Online II, kind of? And even then it was just expanding on material that did exist. Has Boruto had any filler yet?
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# ? Aug 27, 2018 13:16 |
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Isn't the Boruto anime technically all filler?
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# ? Aug 27, 2018 13:20 |
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Sakurazuka posted:Isn't the Boruto anime technically all filler? Sort of, they have adapted some manga content such as Sarada Gaiden and Mitsuki's origin story but the manga kind of sucks and is only released monthly so the anime is still better overall.
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# ? Aug 27, 2018 14:13 |
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All filler no killer baby
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# ? Aug 27, 2018 20:38 |
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Wark Say posted:Doesn't Kyoto Animation do this for a lot of the Light Novels they publish/get animated? Like I swear I read somewhere that like half of the Chu2 Club Members / Main Characters are straight-up Anime-Original characters for the Anime? Violet Evergarden is like 90% original content not from the books. Which is great because it avoided a really, really dumb story beat from the novels and was more of a "story of the week" format instead. I also will never not admit my soft spot for the original FMA when it went off the source material. Some of the ending was a little rough, but the plotline got a lot darker (in mostly a good way) than Brotherhood. Not to say Brotherhood wasn't better, but it was cool what the original staff came up with as well.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 00:35 |
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Mokinokaro posted:I also will never not admit my soft spot for the original FMA when it went off the source material. Some of the ending was a little rough, but the plotline got a lot darker (in mostly a good way) than Brotherhood. Not to say Brotherhood wasn't better, but it was cool what the original staff came up with as well. Mostly , although while I consider the manga and the first anime about equally good, I would consider Brotherhood a bit worse, mainly due to the way it rushed through the parts of the manga that were also covered by the first anime. I liked FMA 2003's take on the homunculi, which make them feel like folklore monsters while simultaneously humanizing them. In particular, Sloth, Lust, and the child homunculus are all more interesting than their manga counterparts (although Bradley is fleshed out more and Envy is used better in the manga, and Greed is interesting and Gluttony boring in both versions). But the origin is what really works better in 2003; people who are miserable because they were raised from the dead as imperfect versions of themselves (by other people whom they have generally ambivalent feelings toward) and feel fake are more interesting than pieces of the personality of an entity that didn't have that strongly defined a personality to begin with associated with the Seven Deadly Sins, which essentially makes them all one-note except for the two with a human host. Edit: I also prefer FMA 2003's willingness to let magic be magic, instead of the manga's handwaves about geothermal energy, Traditional Chinese Medicine, Gaia theory, and nuclear fusion. I also like Truth better as an rear end in a top hat demon of uncertain origin (just because he claims to be "Truth, or God, or the World" doesn't mean that's what he actually is!), rather than a trickster god trying to teach Ed a valuable moral lesson. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 00:50 |
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2003 lust was an interesting character while brotherhood lust was barely a character at all.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 01:28 |
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None of the sins outside Wrath and Greed were characters, and even they were just barely that. They were walls to break with a vague morality tale grafted on.
CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 01:31 |
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I generally prefer Brotherhood once it gets past the initial few arcs (which I admit are really rushed in this version) but the original has it's good points as well (Lust was more of an actual character for one thing, changing Sloth to be the homunculus Ed and Al inadvertently created out of their mother was a great idea, and the new character they created for Wrath in the 2003 series was interesting as was the concept of turning Al into a living Philosophers Stone). But on the other hand it also cut out several characters, downplayed the roles of others (while at the same time granting larger roles to normally one-off characters like Tucker) and I generally think Brotherhood had the better ending. Both shows are still worth watching though (or better yet you could just read the manga and get the best of both). Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 01:48 |
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while there are parts i liked about 2003 and brotherhood certainly has its flaws, brotherhood is still much better overall.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 02:10 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:2003 lust was an interesting character while brotherhood lust was barely a character at all. Is it just me, or is manga/Brotherhood Lust not even particularly lustful? 2003 Lust isn't either, but I don't think she's supposed to be; the sin names in 2003 seem to just be codenames given by Dante. I guess you can argue that this is intentional in the manga too, because Father probably never had much of a sex drive to begin with, and initially found human "breeding" bizarre, which also explains why manga!Lust seems to be the weakest homunculus. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 02:14 |
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Though the thing is, most of the other homunculi at least display some aspect of their respective sin (Gluttony only really cares about eating, Envy is jealous of humans, Sloth is slow and doesn't really care about anything, Pride overestimates his abilities, etc.) but Lust really doesn't all that much. Then again, I suppose it'd be hard to do an accurate representation of her particular vice in a series like this.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 03:21 |
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Lust wasn't weak, she just went up against the one person able to completely shut down the homunculi's regeneration, and even then she almost killed him. She was tied with Greed for strength, using the same carbonization ability, but purely for offense.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 04:46 |
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Schubalts posted:Lust wasn't weak, she just went up against the one person able to completely shut down the homunculi's regeneration, and even then she almost killed him. She was tied with Greed for strength, using the same carbonization ability, but purely for offense. I guess I should say second-weakest, since her performance against Roy was better than Envy’s, although Envy’s powers are more useful outside of a direct fight. But she’s definitely weaker than Wrath, Pride, and Greedling, at least, and Sloth, Gluttony (at least when he’s serious) and regular Greed are at least comparable.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 05:26 |
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Sorry, I guess I started a bit of a derail there with the FMA manga power level chat. To get the thread back on track, what are everyone's favorite filler villains? Here's some of mine:
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 06:30 |
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Silver2195 posted:Raiga from Naruto. His lightning swords were cool enough that they were made canon. Hell, Raiga himself became canon (he shows up in Gai's flashback to his childhood a little later on). The Uchiha Cats as well as a few of the Jinchuriki (though I believe Kishimoto had already come up with their character designs beforehand) also debuted in the anime first before popping up in the manga later on. Come to think of it, has there ever been a manga besides Naruto that eventually canonized material that was originally anime-exclusive? Larryb fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 11:32 |
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idk a lot about the naruto anime but that one episode where his clones unionize was a really good/dumb idea
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 04:43 |
lmao was this thread created as a response to this website https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 07:24 |
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Larryb posted:Come to think of it, has there ever been a manga besides Naruto that eventually canonized material that was originally anime-exclusive?
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 12:06 |
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AnacondaHL posted:lmao was this thread created as a response to this website No, I'm just sick of people using filler as a bad word.
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 15:10 |
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AnacondaHL posted:lmao was this thread created as a response to this website for starters it lists dance like you want to win as a filler ep it categorizes almost the entirety of the trigun anime including the ending as 'filler' quote:Dragon Ball GT was an anime series that ran from 1996 to 1997. In total 65 episodes of Dragon Ball GT were aired. With a total of 65 reported filler episodes, Dragon Ball GT has a very high filler percentage of 100%.
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 15:27 |
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This is a base level of filler.quote:Dragon Ball was an anime series that ran from 1986 to 1989. In total 153 episodes of Dragon Ball were aired. With a total of 23 reported filler episodes, Dragon Ball has a low filler percentage of 15%. This is filler that's transcended past filler. You can call it filler level two. quote:Dragon Ball Z was an anime series that ran from 1989 to 1996. In total 291 episodes of Dragon Ball Z were aired. With a total of 44 reported filler episodes, Dragon Ball Z has a low filler percentage of 15%. and this... is to go... even further... beyond!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! quote:Dragon Ball GT was an anime series that ran from 1996 to 1997. In total 65 episodes of Dragon Ball GT were aired. With a total of 65 reported filler episodes, Dragon Ball GT has a very high filler percentage of 100%. Endorph fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 29, 2018 |
# ? Aug 29, 2018 15:30 |
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AnacondaHL posted:lmao was this thread created as a response to this website
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 15:35 |
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Endorph posted:This is a base level of filler. Lmfao
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# ? Aug 29, 2018 15:37 |
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theyre right about gt
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