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I did enjoy the Dragonball Evolution joke about everyone calling him Geeko and Chi-Chi not liking him.
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CharlestheHammer posted:hosed up that that joke is getting on a decade old I was in loving middle school when s1 was happening. I'm 24 now. 
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Sep 17, 2018 16:56
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'Vegeta! I can fly.' Even as rough as early DBZA I still bust a gut at that one.
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Sep 17, 2018 16:57
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I rarely go back earlier than episode 7. I don’t think DBZA got good until the Vegeta fight, and then it got really really good.
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Sep 17, 2018 18:09
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They decided to just do it themselves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRrEIX6BKk
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Sep 17, 2018 18:14
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I'm wanted in three states for murder after killing people that made endless Nappa quites from DBZA in 2011.
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Sep 17, 2018 20:11
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tbf Nappa really did carry S1
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Sep 17, 2018 20:19
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Coughing Hobo posted:They decided to just do it themselves If I remember right, they got Deku's dub VA to voice "adult" Gohan for a short gag during the Super Android 13 movie. Assuming they get him back for the Buu saga, I wonder how many MHA jokes they'll make during the Great Saiyaman stuff.
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multijoe posted:tbf Nappa really did carry S1 My precious Modeling Career!
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Sep 17, 2018 20:31
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multijoe posted:tbf Nappa really did carry S1 They weren’t kidding in Kai when Nappa said: You will quote everything I say.
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Rhonne posted:If I remember right, they got Deku's dub VA to voice "adult" Gohan for a short gag during the Super Android 13 movie. Assuming they get him back for the Buu saga, I wonder how many MHA jokes they'll make during the Great Saiyaman stuff. Izuku's dub VA (Justin Briner) has actually worked with them on stuff for a while now. They have him voice Cloud in their FFVII series.
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Sep 17, 2018 21:04
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 From a recent Hot Air Ballon exhibition in Veracruz, Mexico.
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on twitter, the TFS gang has talked about potentially redoing season 1 at some point to bring it in line with the rest of the series in quality, and just generally rewrite a lot of the jokes that didn't work, and I'd be down with that but i have this feeling that it's going to lead to them redoing the entirety of DBZ, over and over, just like the real dub...
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Sea Lily posted:on twitter, the TFS gang has talked about potentially redoing season 1 at some point to bring it in line with the rest of the series in quality, and just generally rewrite a lot of the jokes that didn't work, and I'd be down with that I doubt that. There's no way they want to, and the gap between Season 1 and the rest is WAAAAAAAAAY bigger than like between 2 and 3.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:47
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CharlestheHammer posted:hosed up that that joke is getting on a decade old Thank heavens we've all grown along with the show in tangible ways that don't make us feel as if we've wasted our lives consuming entertainment rather than creating and adding to the wonderful tapestry that is our world.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Thank heavens we've all grown along with the show in tangible ways that don't make us feel as if we've wasted our lives consuming entertainment rather than creating and adding to the wonderful tapestry that is our world. I may die but my fanfic will live on
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Sea Lily posted:on twitter, the TFS gang has talked about potentially redoing season 1 at some point to bring it in line with the rest of the series in quality, and just generally rewrite a lot of the jokes that didn't work, and I'd be down with that That... hasn't aged well.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:20
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FilthyImp posted:I wouldn't mind if they did a quick redo of all the Freaky Alien Genotype jokes. You say that like it was cool and good at the time.
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Sep 18, 2018 00:46
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"That thing's a guy?!"
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FilthyImp posted:I wouldn't mind if they did a quick redo of all the Freaky Alien Genotype jokes. Fuego Fish posted:You say that like it was cool and good at the time. for what it's worth i'm pan and non-binary and find that bit loving hilarious like it's not funny to me because "hurr hurr krillin said fag," if that was the extent of the joke i'd probably get mad at it. but the way krillin says the freaky alien genotype line in a way that sounds like it's a stupid backpedal/justification, and then it promptly comes up like an episode later from a totally different character because he actually wasn't lying, is the kind of DBZA joke that pretty much always loving slays me.
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thanks for your opinion, single person in a larger minority that is disparaged by the joke e: just to be clear, i don't really care if you like the joke but what is actually added to the conversation when you leverage your presence in the lgbt community to praise a joke that is offensive on multiple levels against others? dogsicle fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 03:25
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19 and 20 are really good villains
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dogsicle posted:thanks for your opinion, single person in a larger minority that is disparaged by the joke Maybe it's relevant because it's more important what people in a community affected by a joke think than what people outside of a community think they'll be offended by? I mean Speedy Gonzales cartoons were famously shelved from airing due to how they could offended Hispanic viewers... until there was a massive campaign by Hispanic Americans to get them back on the air, because they thought he was cool. I mean, I don't really have a horse in this race, but when someone says "This is offensive against Canadians!" then it's relevant to point out you're a Canadian when you're saying you don't see the big deal.
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I'm suddenly reminded of Mysterious Mr Enter getting super offended on behalf of Canadians because King of the Hill dared to show Canadians as being assholes.
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Guy Goodbody posted:19 and 20 are really good villains I think Gero could have been a pretty sweet villain if they leaned into the Energy Absorb thing. Like yeah it's weird he didn't give his roboself infinite energy like 17/18 or whatever is going on with cell but maybe if he made it a bad idea to shoot big energy beams at him because it just made him stronger, we could have gotten a pretty cool bad guy. Probably not though. Wasn't that Super 17's thing lol
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chiasaur11 posted:Maybe it's relevant because it's more important what people in a community affected by a joke think than what people outside of a community think they'll be offended by? i think in the case of an old bit in a webseries, there's little consequence. it just feels a bit weird to me to jump in and be a permissive minority about it just in the wider context of what someone's priorities are and that nothing is being lost in this situation since the joke will continue to exist. again i'm coming at this from a different angle obviously but i feel like the ideal would be recognizing the issue with something like this independent of your enjoyment, and realizing that speaking up to defend it enables lovely attitudes more than anything else. i don't know the full context of the speedy gonzalez example but the comparison doesn't really track in this case imo. and we can loop back around to it being of little consequence and say maybe i didn't need to get up on the hill about it but, it's always a frustrating thing to come across.
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chiasaur11 posted:Maybe it's relevant because it's more important what people in a community affected by a joke think than what people outside of a community think they'll be offended by? Ehh.. they don't speak for everyone, is the point. Their opinion is valid, and should not be dismissed, but it's not carte blanch to excuse a lovely joke. I'm queer (and nonbinary too! It's cool seeing more enbies pop up!) and I laughed too at the time, but that doesn't really make it okay. Cabbit fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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ofc the joke also happens to be about frieza and feeds into the whole thing with queer-coded villains which are honestly a huge cultural touchstone for me and i still tend to enjoy. so i get the situation of liking something #problematic and a desire to defend it or even just express my enjoyment of when the context might not be ideal. but i guess i would also say i don't feel terribly restricted when it comes to not defending stuff like that or being intentional about how i discuss it, so it isn't an insurmountable thing.
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chiasaur11 posted:Maybe it's relevant because it's more important what people in a community affected by a joke think than what people outside of a community think they'll be offended by? Mexicans, not Hispanic Americans.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Mexicans, not Hispanic Americans. Apparently both of those groups and more. There were a lot of people who liked Speedy Gonzales, according to the summaries of the whole thing I've read.
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chiasaur11 posted:Apparently both of those groups and more. There were a lot of people who liked Speedy Gonzales, according to the summaries of the whole thing I've read. Well, WB retired Speedy over concerns about offending Mexican people by the way he and his cartoons depicted the country. But as it turns out, it is extremely hard to find anyone from Mexico offended by Speedy or Lento Rodriguez (and yes, that does include Speedy's first appearance), hell, there are even plans for an animated film completely developed here in Mexico and with national talent. So, if people in the states would stop getting offended on our behalf that would be peachy. We're perfectly able to voice our distaste when/if we find something offensive.
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Sep 18, 2018 05:56
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I know the first season is outdated but my god pretty much everything from Nappa and Vegeta showing up onward is fantastic and none of the new stuff makes me laugh the same way
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Babe Magnet posted:I think Gero could have been a pretty sweet villain if they leaned into the Energy Absorb thing. Like yeah it's weird he didn't give his roboself infinite energy like 17/18 or whatever is going on with cell but maybe if he made it a bad idea to shoot big energy beams at him because it just made him stronger, we could have gotten a pretty cool bad guy. Gero did exactly that, though. He even tricked Vegeta into trying to blast him, because he realized that Vegeta is gullible as gently caress.
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Sep 18, 2018 07:17
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jokes can be offensive on the surface and not very offensive deep down. the freaky alien genotype joke works because its played completely straight. it's not even as problematic as most of the zarbon jokes.
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Sep 18, 2018 07:19
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Abridgers can make as many terrible gay jokes as they want as long as they all promise to never do song parodies ever again.
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Sep 18, 2018 07:37
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Ryaomon posted:Abridgers can make as many terrible gay jokes as they want as long as they all promise to never do song parodies ever again. 
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Sep 18, 2018 07:42
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The gay jokes came from Kaiser, the married gay man. So blame him.
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Sep 18, 2018 10:47
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Ryaomon posted:Abridgers can make as many terrible gay jokes as they want as long as they all promise to never do song parodies ever again. You kidding? Some of the best moments in DBZA are the songs, like Make a Man Out of You or Cell's My Way now.
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Blaze Dragon posted:You kidding? Some of the best moments in DBZA are the songs, like Make a Man Out of You or Cell's My Way now. Cell singing My Way wasn’t a song parody it was just Cell singing My Way
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Ryaomon posted:Abridgers can make as many terrible gay jokes as they want as long as they all promise to never do song parodies ever again. 
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