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Linnear posted:TORMAGEDDON Deptfordx posted:Dansday, Abeocalypse, Samihilation, and of course Bradaclysm Linnear posted:I'll add Doomian and Goregory. Well if I ever make a Chaos Space Marine warband I know what I'm naming them.
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I'm about halfway through the second book of Gaunt's Ghosts and all these guys are going to die aren't they? 
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Sep 17, 2018 16:28
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In book four the Ghosts get folded into the Munitorum, and spend the rest of the series dealing with logistical issues. There are a few character deaths after that, but they're all off-base drunk driving accidents.
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Sep 17, 2018 17:05
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The 300 page account of filling out forms was thrilling. But in classic Dan Abnet fashion, ended on a huge cliffhanger where we don’t know if Milo checked box 403(ac) in cross reference to form 420-fft.
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Sep 17, 2018 17:52
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Moose-Alini posted:The 300 page account of filling out forms was thrilling. But in classic Dan Abnet fashion, ended on a huge cliffhanger where we don’t know if Milo checked box 403(ac) in cross reference to form 420-fft. What? Abnett doesn't do cliffhangers. A Fists successor chapter, the Adjutants, just so happened to answer Gaunt's emergency request for a deep-strike audit squad, and all the clerical errors were accounted for in the space of three pages. E: For real though, I didn't really get what had happened at the end of Ravenor until they explained it again at the start of the second book. My god is Abnett bad at wrapping things up. HerpicleOmnicron5 fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 17, 2018 |
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Sep 17, 2018 18:07
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^burtle posted:I'm about halfway through the second book of Gaunt's Ghosts and all these guys are going to die aren't they? They get better after book three. Then they spend the next eight books getting so, so much worse.
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Sep 17, 2018 18:13
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Arquinsiel posted:Yeah, it was a thing. But also they happened at the same time, because the 2nd ed starter box was built around the Armageddon II campaign, and all the fluff talked about it being 999 M41. And then 3rd ed shows up, we get a special Armageddon codex for the worldwide campaign, and BAM, it's 57 years later but still 999 M41. The dating system is an unreliable narrator, due to fuckery it's already either a century to even a thousand years past 999 M41 already.
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Sep 17, 2018 19:22
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Does anyone have that gif that is either the Black Templars or Dark Angels renacting that spongebob scene where everything is on fire and they are running around flailing.
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Sep 17, 2018 23:01
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Moose-Alini posted:The 300 page account of filling out forms was thrilling. But in classic Dan Abnet fashion, ended on a huge cliffhanger where we don’t know if Milo checked box 403(ac) in cross reference to form 420-fft. 
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Sep 17, 2018 23:34
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Is there anything that has in cannon prayers or hymms that would be sung or said by imperial citizens? Like, are those collected anywhere?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:19
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BigRed0427 posted:Is there anything that has in cannon prayers or hymms that would be sung or said by imperial citizens? Like, are those collected anywhere? Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer has some, there's the Fede Imperialis from Sisters of Battle 2nd Edition (and other places since then but I know the full-text is there), other than that there are just references to prayers/hymns in-line or with reference to a hymnal without them being written out (which I suppose is as-expected: one of the most powerful things in any society is the imposition of assumptions and I have to assume that one of the Imperial assumptions would be participation in/familiarity with common prayers)?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:27
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BigRed0427 posted:Is there anything that has in cannon prayers or hymms that would be sung or said by imperial citizens? Like, are those collected anywhere? Cannon prayers would be mechanicum and thus presumably mostly in binary.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:33
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Schadenboner posted:Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer has some, there's the Fede Imperialis from Sisters of Battle 2nd Edition (and other places since then but I know the full-text is there), other than that there are just references to prayers/hymns in-line or with reference to a hymnal without them being written out (which I suppose is as-expected: one of the most powerful things in any society is the imposition of assumptions and I have to assume that one of the Imperial assumptions would be participation in/familiarity with common prayers)? Ah ok. If a in universe prayer and hymm book is ever written by Black Library, I will fund that kickstarter. I chose to RP a battle sister for Dark Heresy who is known to burst out into hymms randomly as a stress reviler thinking these might be collected somewhere. Lobster God posted:Cannon prayers would be mechanicum and thus presumably mostly in binary. 
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Sep 18, 2018 01:34
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I hadn't thought of it until now, but yeah, it's hosed up that there aren't any hymns in the books. They've had dozens of British fantasy authors writing these things for decades and none of them have included a song? What the gently caress is going on?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:40
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BigRed0427 posted:Ah ok. If a in universe prayer and hymm book is ever written by Black Library, I will fund that kickstarter. I mean: just get a PDF of one of the old editions (the older the better) of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer and replace "god" or "Jesus" with "The Immortal God-Emperor of Man" and add more poo poo about killing? Then make up insane quotes and attribute them to Sebastian Thor or Dolan Chirosius and that's gotta get you like 80% of the way there?
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Sep 18, 2018 01:40
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I really like the small bits of world building that the better BL libraries insert into their books. In Lords of Silence, for instance, Chris Wright has one of the chaos marines muse on the fact that he has been away from the Imperium for so long that even its language is becoming alien to him. He states: “... Gothic itself has evolved. It is now a language of internal contradictions and overlapping meanings, a palimpsest that never quite lets the old layers get wiped clean. It is uglier now, filled with more ornament than it ever used to have.” That's the good stuff right there, and its why Wright is quickly becoming my favorite writer on the team.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:54
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Anyone who takes the piss out of Games Workshop's obsession with a stupid, easily trademarked names is good in my books.
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Sep 18, 2018 05:10
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Guy Goodbody posted:I hadn't thought of it until now, but yeah, it's hosed up that there aren't any hymns in the books. They've had dozens of British fantasy authors writing these things for decades and none of them have included a song? What the gently caress is going on? i think you'll find that music was declared heretical after the age of apostasy alternative theory: protagonists are disproportionately space marines, who can't carry a tune because the belcher's gland fucks up their vocal cords
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Sep 18, 2018 05:48
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PupsOfWar posted:i think you'll find that music was declared heretical after the age of apostasy That's wrong though? There's discussion of musical styles/movements in Eisenhorn and Cain meets Amberley when she's literally chanteuseing it up? E: Also the Redemptionists in The Redeemer have a song: "Glory, glory, The Redeemer"? 
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Sep 18, 2018 06:41
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Schadenboner posted:That's wrong though? There's discussion of musical styles/movements in Eisenhorn and Cain meets Amberley when she's literally chanteuseing it up? PupsOfWar's comment was what's called a 'joke'.
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Sep 18, 2018 07:28
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Lobster God posted:PupsOfWar's comment was what's called a 'joke'. Look: I don’t get nearly as many opportunities to mention “The Redeemer” as I’d like so I have to take the ones I find.
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Sep 18, 2018 07:39
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Schadenboner posted:That's wrong though? There's discussion of musical styles/movements in Eisenhorn that's just decadent aristos sitting around looking at notation and discussing what music would theoretically be like if it existed no music has actually been performed since m36 except by slaanesh cultists quote:Cain meets Amberley when she's literally chanteuseing it up? these are known heretics though cain is friends with a slaanesh daemon, amberley studies xenos cultures, and both are guilty of the imperium's most severe sin: sex-having PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 07:50
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Doesn't Cain mention at one point the old childrens song from his scholum days "Crush the Heretics under the Land Raiders Tracks".
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Sep 18, 2018 08:49
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I feel like there's several, maybe more than several even instances of people singing hymnals or battle chants or whatever. Typically because they're some random Imperial fucker with the poor luck to be around the protagonist(s) and they've got to prove their faith, so of course the magic songs come out. Trouble is they never actually write anything other than "So and so sang with all their faith and that demon got the gently caress out yo."
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Sep 18, 2018 09:44
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Orv posted:I feel like there's several, maybe more than several even instances of people singing hymnals or battle chants or whatever. Typically because they're some random Imperial fucker with the poor luck to be around the protagonist(s) and they've got to prove their faith, so of course the magic songs come out. Trouble is they never actually write anything other than "So and so sang with all their faith and that demon got the gently caress out yo." Being a subscriber to a couple podcasts that do reviews of lovely fantasy books I have to say that this is a really, really good thing. It seems like a given author will write lyrics that are, at best, 50% as good as their prose writing. Unless you're *really* into the Hey-non-nonny-non Tom Bombadil poo poo? 
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Sep 18, 2018 09:56
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Oh no it's a good thing don't get me wrong, just in the instance of what that one goon was looking for it's kind of a bummer.
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Sep 18, 2018 10:42
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Schadenboner posted:Being a subscriber to a couple podcasts that do reviews of lovely fantasy books I have to say that this is a really, really good thing. It seems like a given author will write lyrics that are, at best, 50% as good as their prose writing. Yeah, that scene in the Eisenhorn short story where he joins in with the hymn as he approaches the broken veterans really wouldn't have the same gravitas if there were actual words in there. I just tell my brain "he sang some inspiring poo poo"
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Sep 18, 2018 13:35
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In case anyone is wondering, Betrayer is still good. What is the current cream of the crop wrt Heresy books, I keep losing track.
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Sep 18, 2018 15:17
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I just finished reading the Magos. In one reading. Im loving floored by how good that was. And the implications. Abnett has so many books he needs to finish writing
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Sep 18, 2018 17:56
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PupsOfWar posted:i think you'll find that music was declared heretical after the age of apostasy 
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Sep 18, 2018 17:58
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Vadoc posted:The dating system is an unreliable narrator, due to fuckery it's already either a century to even a thousand years past 999 M41 already. Yes but it's one planet, so unless their one archeotech clock broke...
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Sep 18, 2018 19:07
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Schadenboner posted:E: Also the Redemptionists in The Redeemer have a song: "Glory, glory, The Redeemer"? Just realised that this is a riff of 'Glory Glory Man United.' (or any of the other related football songs)
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Sep 19, 2018 19:07
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Z the IVth posted:Just realised that this is a riff of 'Glory Glory Man United.' (or any of the other related football songs) Can’t tell if this is  or if you honestly don’t know about the Battle Hymn of the Republic.
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Sep 19, 2018 19:12
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PantsOptional posted:Can’t tell if this is He's British, if it's not related to soccer or the bakeoff they don't know about it.
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Sep 19, 2018 19:22
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Thank God America would never stoop to repurposing an old tune with some disreputable new lyrics.
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Sep 19, 2018 22:33
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PantsOptional posted:Can’t tell if this is Until I wiki-ed the football chant and read it"s origins I can safely say nope, I'd never heard of it. Considering 40k"s roots and that of the comic I wager the author wasn't referring to the original Battle Hymn either. Guy Goodbody posted:He's British, if it's not related to soccer or the bakeoff they don't know about it. I'm not British but way to go with the sweeping generalizations buddy.
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Sep 20, 2018 02:37
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The Battle Hymn of the Republic itself used the tune from John Brown’s Body.
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Sep 20, 2018 04:34
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Z the IVth posted:I'm not British but way to go with the sweeping generalizations buddy. Lobster God posted:
Come on thread, you're better than this.
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Yeah, in Britain there's a LOT of lovely singing. Seriously. I first heard that tune as a kid when a bunch of paras were singing in a pub and the words were something like "Glory, Glory what a hell of a way to die With a rocket up your arse and a bullet in your eye" We are a strange, strange little island...
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