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ah, movie/video game villains and a joke character from toriyama's series before dragon ball
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Onmi posted:Well, you see if Goku is only a good person because he cracked his skull and isn't a good person because his grandfather raised him to be one. Then everything is amazing.
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Oct 5, 2018 06:43
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Manatee Cannon posted:ah, movie/video game villains and a joke character from toriyama's series before dragon ball Yes, unlike the rich achievements of Saiyan scientists such as...
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Oct 5, 2018 06:44
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c'mon that's not fair and you know it. they were dead before the series ever started and toriyama had no reason to make some up
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Oct 5, 2018 06:46
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even the interstellar travel was probably jacked from the tuffles or provided by Freeza
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Oct 5, 2018 06:55
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Saiyan Space Program would be a hilarious game.
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Oct 5, 2018 07:19
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one guy just throws the other ones into the air as hard as he can
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Oct 5, 2018 07:40
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I think the deal with Saiyans is that they had plenty of variety as a people and a civilisation, but much like with Klingons you get the warrior caste bullying everyone else into respecting them first and foremost, and everything else is secondary even if it's utterly essential to keeping their civilisation functioning. They were happy to sign up with Freiza as his genocide squads because the technology and money (and food) he had to offer meant they didn't have to spend time on boring things like science and agriculture. Goku (despite his brain damage and scattershot education) and Vegeta actually seem to be pretty intelligent, capable of operating advanced technology with just some basic instruction, and they show a lot of intelligence, creativity and guile when fighting. Saiyans in general aren't dumb, their society just didn't respect education. (and it's likely that they were deliberately encouraged by both Freiza and King Vegeta, since developing their own science and tech might make them too independent and/or dangerous) Vegeta, who would have memories of Saiyan society and was brought up as royalty, certainly doesn't seem to mind shacking up with probably one of the most brilliant scientific minds in the universe.
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Oct 5, 2018 08:00
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Manatee Cannon posted:dr gero and bulma's family are outliers and you know it Whis was genuinely surprised Bulma was able to figure out how to actually do it, meaning its probably super rare for people that don't cheat with time rings.
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Oct 5, 2018 12:40
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Manatee Cannon posted:saiyans had interstellar travel so their standards are at least higher than earth's Most of their tech was taken from the ruins of the Tuffles or given to them by the Frieza force. They invented bullshit DNA though and have seemingly rudimentary understanding of cloning if they grow their kids in pods. poo poo, maybe this is why their species isn't that good, degraded/bad genetics from mismanagement/over-reliance of pod growth.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:11
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According to the same interview that gave us S-Cells, Saiyan tech is superior to Earth science in the fields of war and space travel. But horseshit in literally everything else.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:39
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chiasaur11 posted:Yes, unlike the rich achievements of Saiyan scientists such as... Bardock.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:42
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The Saiyans were originally the most cliche of warrior races. Violent brutal and uncarring. Obviously this changed but to pretend they were not originally that is revising the past a bit
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Oct 5, 2018 14:00
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Flytrap posted:According to the same interview that gave us S-Cells, Saiyan tech is superior to Earth science in the fields of war and space travel. Which is odd, because you'd think they'd want, as a 'for instance', giant cows for lots of meat. Or maybe they tried that and found the meat didn't taste so good?
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Oct 5, 2018 14:07
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Bloodly posted:Which is odd, because you'd think they'd want, as a 'for instance', giant cows for lots of meat. Or maybe they tried that and found the meat didn't taste so good? They'd probably steal them from elsewhere.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:10
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What war tech do saiyans even have, it looked like they were still stuck on the "punch really hard" level of warfare. I guess there's saibamen but I wanna say they pilfered those instead of having some genetic engineer invent an army of Radditzes.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:29
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a cartoon duck posted:What war tech do saiyans even have, it looked like they were still stuck on the "punch really hard" level of warfare. Artificial moons is about it. They also have the three step planet conquer technique 1. Send a baby to a planet 2. ??????? 3. Profit
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CharlestheHammer posted:Artificial moons is about it.
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Oct 5, 2018 15:33
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Pureauthor posted:DBMinus Bardock is still a genocidal space pirate, only he doesn't want his son to die. Agreed. Minus is fine. The only thing this story (probably) invalidates is Bardock’s old design and the dumbass psychic powers plot. That’s fine by me. Movie looks amazing.
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Oct 5, 2018 15:42
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Crabtree posted:Most of their tech was taken from the ruins of the Tuffles or given to them by the Frieza force. They invented bullshit DNA though and have seemingly rudimentary understanding of cloning if they grow their kids in pods. Tuffles were the original inhabitants of planet vegeta, sayians came from salada. They had to have interstellar travel before meeting the tuffles. The history of the sayians makes no goddamn sense.
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Oct 5, 2018 16:19
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Monaghan posted:Tuffles were the original inhabitants of planet vegeta, sayians came from salada. They had to have interstellar travel before meeting the tuffles. It makes sense if we assume they had at least enough technological know-how to create interstellar travel. -Saiyans create spaceships to take over worlds -Saiyans fight amongst themselves, destroy Planet Sadal, a few manage to escape including their current ruler, King Vegeta -Saiyans reach Planet Plant, take it over as their new planet, rename it Planet Vegeta -Freeza learns of how good the Saiyans are at killing planets, decides to offer them an invitation to join his army or die -Turns out the small print on that contract said that they could still all get killed if Freeza felt like it, should've read more closely! -Saiyans are now all dead except for those that were off-planet at the time (Raditz and Vegeta, Nappa, Broly and Paragus, Kakarot)
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Oct 5, 2018 16:31
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Manatee Cannon posted:ah, movie/video game villains and a joke character from toriyama's series before dragon ball Dr. Slump appeared in an episode of Super and got an award for his invention, which was a portable wishing machine that even Beerus used. I'd say that's pretty drat impressive.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:07
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It's entirely plausible that the Saiyans nuked themselves back to the Stone Age multiple times.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:12
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a cartoon duck posted:What war tech do saiyans even have, it looked like they were still stuck on the "punch really hard" level of warfare. What war tech do you even need when one of your elite can raise two of his fingers in order to nuke a city 
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Oct 5, 2018 17:28
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Pacra posted:What war tech do you even need when one of your elite can raise two of his fingers in order to nuke a city logistics because those guys get really hungry
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Oct 5, 2018 17:30
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Funky Valentine posted:It's entirely plausible that the Saiyans nuked themselves back to the Stone Age multiple times. In minus the houses are like really basic and there's only a few thousand of them, even their birth rate was bad before being used as shock troops and encouraged to not care about other Saiyans did not help.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:31
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Funky Valentine posted:It's entirely plausible that the Saiyans nuked themselves back to the Stone Age multiple times. When even the smallest child can wreck whole planets during a full moon this goes from plausible to virtually certain. Honestly it's amazing the Saiyans lasted as long as they did.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:44
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chiasaur11 posted:Yes, unlike the rich achievements of Saiyan scientists such as... Like, really really hard.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:47
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Manatee Cannon posted:bardock was only a brilliant scientist in one of the old dubs I always liked to imagine that a "scientist" on Planet Vegeta was just a slavemaster. And whoever got thier Tuffle slaves to perform the best was the greatest scientist.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:50
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Stairmaster posted:logistics because those guys get really hungry Now I'm imagining a single saiyan baseball with loads and loads of air support that are nothing but for delivering sandwiches and soup or something to keep them going
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Oct 5, 2018 17:51
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TrilliontonNixon posted:When even the smallest child can wreck whole planets during a full moon this goes from plausible to virtually certain. Honestly it's amazing the Saiyans lasted as long as they did. Well, EVERYBODY turns into a monkey, so probably it's a monkey party and then start putting cities back together.
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Oct 5, 2018 17:56
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No way this is real but, the idea of Gine pulling a Supergirl sounds like the exact kind of stupid I've come of expect of the series at this point. Plus, I like Gine. quote:>Vegeta was born a few years before Broly and Goku, despite the trailer implying otherwise
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Oct 5, 2018 20:28
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Epilogue of the movie or what.
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Oct 5, 2018 20:32
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That is the implication, yeah.
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Oct 5, 2018 20:37
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So Girl has been wandering space for like 50 years. drat.
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Oct 5, 2018 20:37
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There is no way they'd give us old lady Gine out of thin loving air. Right? Who's Tarble?
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Oct 5, 2018 20:46
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This movie sounds like it’s gonna be an insane mess, which is better than being boring. Maybe?
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Oct 5, 2018 20:48
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Well I'm guessing the idea is that she would look the same, whether Saiyan genes or because she was in stasis 
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Oct 5, 2018 20:48
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So Goku will be older than his mom. What are you doing Toryiama
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There is negative chance that's true, but I want it to be because it'd be really dumb.
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