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I have not seen a single episode of GT, so the only thing i see here is Trunks smiling and Yamcha. Trunks smiling is already a red flag
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Fargin Icehole posted:I have not seen a single episode of GT, so the only thing i see here is Trunks smiling and Yamcha. thats from Z though
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Oct 25, 2018 03:55
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Sea Lily posted:thats from Z though Also disclaimer, i stopped watching halfway through buu ...That's at the very end?
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Oct 25, 2018 04:04
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I kinda like the SSJ4 design in how it's basically meant to make the Saiyan look more ape-like, like how gorillas have hairless chests and fur everywhere else.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:05
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teen goten is a god drat mess
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Oct 25, 2018 04:15
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dogsicle posted:teen goten is a god drat mess He really is though. Goten's whole thing has always been that he looks like kid Goku, but teen Goten looses that and it's replaced by loving nothing. He looks the default character in a DBZ rpg.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:35
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Fargin Icehole posted:Also disclaimer, i stopped watching halfway through buu Yes
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Oct 25, 2018 04:44
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Both of Goku's sons grow up into Yamcha.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:45
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Funky Valentine posted:Both of Goku's sons grow up into Yamcha. To be honest I always thought Yamcha looked a lot like a saiyan throughout Z. It doesn't help that the most distinguishing feature of saiyans, their tails, stopped being a thing after like five episodes.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:50
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Gohan is not Yamcha but more of a Hybrid of Yamcha and Bulma. Having some sort of intelligence, but low to little use in a fight currently. Goten, on the otherhand, sadly develops something of a character being Yamcha but not a creep.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:22
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Yamcha's Android saga short hair was always the worst Yamcha IMHO
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Oct 25, 2018 05:26
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Crabtree posted:Gohan is not Yamcha but more of a Hybrid of Yamcha and Bulma. Having some sort of intelligence, but low to little use in a fight currently. only in gt. they just took that he had a girlfriend or w/e it was at the end of z and ran with it in gt because there was nothing else to go on and they were lazy
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Oct 25, 2018 05:35
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Anyone here play Dragon Ball Legends? It's fun and kinda surprised it's not getting any attention on SA. They just had a big update and made a new login campaign for new players.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:37
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Just retcon Yamcha into some Saiyan loser sent to earth who's failure Goku was sent to fix. While we're at it, retcon Launch into a Saiyan too. Half of her was just starting on her path to destruction when we lost track of her. Goku is just the latest in a list of failed attempts at conquering the Earth.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:38
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After retelling Broly, someone takes his DNA and just makes everyone part Saiyan. Krillin becomes a Saiyan, Yamcha becomes Nappa, Goku get really weak because he's becoming too much Saiyan.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:47
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I kinda like the SSJ4 design in how it's basically meant to make the Saiyan look more ape-like, like how gorillas have hairless chests and fur everywhere else. Exactly, this is the whole idea behind the transformation. And for the record is not eyeliner, their eyelids are red.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:54
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Exactly, this is the whole idea behind the transformation. And for the record is not eyeliner, their eyelids are red. Yeah, it's magic eyeshadow, not magic eyeliner 
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Oct 25, 2018 05:58
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Thought exercise: could Goku and Vegeta have beaten Majin Buu at the end of Z if they had just worked together? Like, 2 vs 1? Buu didn't seem drastically stronger, but that regenerative factor was probably the best in the series. Had they actually teamed up instead of doing what they...always seem to do, would they have been able to find a way to permanently erase Buu without using the spirit bomb? There's no numbers or power levels or anything to back any of this, so I don't think there's a wrong answer, but it's a fun little thing to consider, especially in light of their actions in the latest chapter of the Super manga.
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Oct 25, 2018 11:18
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Shinjobi posted:Thought exercise: I don't think they'd be strong enough to completely destroy Buu. They'd be able to keep on knocking him down but they wouldn't be able to finish him off.
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Oct 25, 2018 11:23
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Shinjobi posted:Thought exercise: Goku claims he could have finished Buu off with Super Saiyan 3 so probably.
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Oct 25, 2018 11:34
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A lot of the freeform fights in DBZ are basically about being able to land a big enough energy attack on your enemy to actually destroy their body. Trunks finished off Freiza with a big energy blast, as Gohan did to Cell, and Goku actually finally got to use the Spirit Bomb when Kid Buu was kept busy long enough. (mostly by Vegeta, so they kinda DID work together) Thing is that most of the cast are used to 1v1 deathmatches, maybe tagging in and out, and Goku and Vegeta despite their mutual respect for each other have too much pride to work together very well. About the only way they CAN do so is when they're fused, and they won't do that except as a last resort.
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Oct 25, 2018 12:28
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Testekill posted:I don't think they'd be strong enough to completely destroy Buu. They'd be able to keep on knocking him down but they wouldn't be able to finish him off. I'm leaning towards this happening
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Oct 25, 2018 13:34
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One of Super's strengths is making the stakes and scenarios less linear than 1v1 deathmatches; there's always an unusual condition that needs to be satisfied to win the current engagement.
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Oct 25, 2018 13:45
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TrilliontonNixon posted:He really is though. Goten's whole thing has always been that he looks like kid Goku, but teen Goten looses that and it's replaced by loving nothing. He looks the default character in a DBZ rpg. Goten looks like kid Goku but acted nothing like him, so him growing into his own thing is really for the better I figure. Of course they essentially do absolutely nothing with him but you know
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Oct 25, 2018 14:52
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Shinjobi posted:Thought exercise: The absolute most reasonable thing to do would’ve been to just airdrop Gohan via Instant Transmission. Outside of that probably not.
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Oct 25, 2018 14:54
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Shinjobi posted:Thought exercise: I don't think so. Vegeta didn't have enough power even at his strongest (Majin Vegeta) to beat even the fat Buu, much less the completely uncontrolled Pure Buu. Goku had Super Saiyan 3, which by his own recognition was strong enough for the Fat Buu but the moment he tried it against Kid Buu he only managed to burn himself out because SS3 is an useless piece of poo poo. Even if they had gone in together, the more likely result would be that they dealt some degree of damage to Buu only for him to insta-regen all of it, then they die because Buu blew up the Kaioshin's planet with them on it. On the plus side, Shin dies too. There's a big difference between that situation and now in the Super manga. Buu had basically infinite stamina and regeneration, Jiren does not. Goku and Vegeta are far more powerful even without transforming now than they were back then (though this is extremely inconsistent because power levels, nonetheless at the very least base Goku is stronger than Final Freeza post-training, when by Buu he wasn't as strong as Final Freeza without training, without Super Saiyan as confirmed by Beerus), and even there they were only able to face Jiren because he was already tired and beaten up by his fight with UI Goku.
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Oct 25, 2018 15:03
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Goten and Trunks should be interesting to follow since they've grown up working together and fusing all the time. Their friendship has what Gohan lacked; a peer their own age they can identify and practice with. They're basically Hank and Dean Venture except Mecha-Shiva is real and can kick rear end.
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Oct 25, 2018 15:07
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Oct 25, 2018 16:06
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Problem is they don't see much action as Gohan regularly did before and after Bu, so they're sidelined from real training as regular fighters and as a fusion. They have the unique position of being kids that could be trained to fight better as a fusion because they're used to it and like it, but I guess that's only going to happen if they ever meet Kefla and become fusion buddies. Kale and Caulifla have the power they need to challenge to grow stronger and Gotenks has what Caulifla needs, SSJ3. Its a good deal across the board and it'd give them all something to do, even mostly off screen but hinted at.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Goten and Trunks should be interesting to follow since they've grown up working together and fusing all the time. Their friendship has what Gohan lacked; a peer their own age they can identify and practice with. They should grow up, get married and adopt a Cell Jr together.
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Oct 25, 2018 16:48
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Broly coming to UK cinemas in case anyone's surprised https://www.mangauk.com/dragon-ball-super-broly-hits-uk-cinemas-this-january/
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lmao at that generic saiyan at the end there trying to act like he's a real Dragon Ball character. Goku! Vegeta! Frieza! Some Dude!
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Oct 25, 2018 17:15
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Excuse you his name is Beets and you will respect him
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Oct 25, 2018 17:35
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Beets me why I should.
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Crabtree posted:After retelling Broly, someone takes his DNA and just makes everyone part Saiyan. Krillin becomes a Saiyan, Yamcha becomes Nappa, Goku get really weak because he's becoming too much Saiyan. PLz don't spoil Dragon Ball Fighter Z-PLUS for us. (that's exactly the kind of mechanic that would make a sequel work)
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TheKingofSprings posted:The absolute most reasonable thing to do would’ve been to just airdrop Gohan via Instant Transmission. yea it's funny how gohan could have prob beat kid buu without needing the spirit bomb or w/e at the end. toriyama really hosed up with him at the end of the buu saga
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Oct 25, 2018 18:07
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea it's funny how gohan could have prob beat kid buu without needing the spirit bomb or w/e at the end. toriyama really hosed up with him at the end of the buu saga That would have been incredibly lame though
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Oct 25, 2018 18:13
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TrilliontonNixon posted:Beets me why I should. Beets is going to be the breakaway star of the show, and he's gonna get an anime with Jaco. Neurotic obsessive geek Saiyan and lazy SPACE COP.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:13
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Andrast posted:That would have been incredibly lame though it would be weird with how the ending goes now but it would have worked fine had toriyama not changed his mind about gohan's role in the story at the last second as is it's just funny how they don't even stop to consider the option when he could easily win if they brought him in. it's just an artifact of the story shifting back to goku near the end
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Considering how he did the last time he fought Buu I can guarantee Gohan would just gently caress it up again For all the flack he gets about stealing the spotlight back i can't really blame Goku by the end of that arc. He gave everyone else a chance to shine and then some and they all hosed it up one after another
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