Anime Discussion Thread 21: "big fan of that slime"

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Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

The Colonel posted:

90% of the time when i read the word yuribait i physically feel it like an actual punch to the gut

imo its extremely *checks notes* woke *shuffling papers* to deny any and all emotional and narrative weight to a relationship between two women because it didnt meet some arbitrary standards you made up in your head of what it should be

euphonium is entirely about messy, complicated relationships. between people who love each other, between people who hate each other, between one person who loves another and one person who doesn't love them back, between people and their art. people fall into and out of love, people's emotions go to weird places, people waffle on their feelings for each other. if it was literally JUST kumiko and reina I'd get it but there's like three separate side relationships in eupho and the staff have literally called liz and the blue bird a love story.

imo the whole yuri bait thing is just a stubborn attempt to force works that are complicated by our own biases, the creators' own biases, and society's own biases when it comes to lesbianism and recast them into something heteronormative. there's angles you can critiicize euphonium from, even along those lines, but the whole 'yuribait' thing is just a buzzword at this point, meaningless and mostly spread by assholes and idiots.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:27

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 06:09

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

lol didnt wanna start an entire page with that, but here we are

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:27

The Colonel: Jun 8, 2013; I commute by bike!

*claps in solidarity*

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:29

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

The Colonel posted:

*claps in solidarity*

your fate is now chained to mine, colonel. if we die we die together. any last words.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:30

The Colonel: Jun 8, 2013; I commute by bike!

Endorph posted:

your fate is now chained to mine, colonel. if we die we die together. any last words.

i will defend the combat in both nier automata and rule of rose to the death

also marona and castille are both gay

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:31

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

The Colonel posted:

i will defend the combat in both nier automata and rule of rose to the death

hm, maybe this relationship should also end with me drifting away with no resolution

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:32

The Colonel: Jun 8, 2013; I commute by bike!

it's not rule of rose's fault if you got killed by the mermaid boss

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:33

The Colonel: Jun 8, 2013; I commute by bike!

ok i'll actually only stand by my statement about marona and castille never mind that first sentence

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:35

chumbler: Mar 28, 2010

https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/1062909714823106561

All this time and I never knew I was so irresistible.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:37

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Knorth posted:

https://twitter.com/suzusiro333/status/1060840727427444736

these own so much, thanks for always posting
also, been playing tenno zephyr's pro skater all week, it's good fun! :v:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:41

Ibblebibble: Nov 12, 2013

Endorph posted:

imo its extremely *checks notes* woke *shuffling papers* to deny any and all emotional and narrative weight to a relationship between two women because it didnt meet some arbitrary standards you made up in your head of what it should be

euphonium is entirely about messy, complicated relationships. between people who love each other, between people who hate each other, between one person who loves another and one person who doesn't love them back, between people and their art. people fall into and out of love, people's emotions go to weird places, people waffle on their feelings for each other. if it was literally JUST kumiko and reina I'd get it but there's like three separate side relationships in eupho and the staff have literally called liz and the blue bird a love story.

imo the whole yuri bait thing is just a stubborn attempt to force works that are complicated by our own biases, the creators' own biases, and society's own biases when it comes to lesbianism and recast them into something heteronormative. there's angles you can critiicize euphonium from, even along those lines, but the whole 'yuribait' thing is just a buzzword at this point, meaningless and mostly spread by assholes and idiots.

Yeah maybe I used the wrong term there. I feel some mild disappointment that things aren't going the way I thought they would but I'm still interested in their dynamic over the rest of S2. Really like the show either way.

That and I find Shuuichi pretty boring :v:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 09:50

Cuntellectual: Aug 6, 2010

The Colonel posted:

it's not rule of rose's fault if you got killed by the mermaid boss

It definitely is.

Endorph posted:

imo its extremely *checks notes* woke *shuffling papers* to deny any and all emotional and narrative weight to a relationship between two women because it didnt meet some arbitrary standards you made up in your head of what it should be

euphonium is entirely about messy, complicated relationships. between people who love each other, between people who hate each other, between one person who loves another and one person who doesn't love them back, between people and their art. people fall into and out of love, people's emotions go to weird places, people waffle on their feelings for each other. if it was literally JUST kumiko and reina I'd get it but there's like three separate side relationships in eupho and the staff have literally called liz and the blue bird a love story.

imo the whole yuri bait thing is just a stubborn attempt to force works that are complicated by our own biases, the creators' own biases, and society's own biases when it comes to lesbianism and recast them into something heteronormative. there's angles you can critiicize euphonium from, even along those lines, but the whole 'yuribait' thing is just a buzzword at this point, meaningless and mostly spread by assholes and idiots.

I tried reading this like three times and it ends up just meaning nothing.

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# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:06

Ibblebibble: Nov 12, 2013

RIP Reina, you were a good character and then you died.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:21

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Cuntellectual posted:

I tried reading this like three times and it ends up just meaning nothing.

gently caress off and get banned

Ibblebibble posted:

That and I find Shuuichi pretty boring

good news, literally nothing in the animated material has implied any sort of romance between shuuichi and kumiko

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:29

Ibblebibble: Nov 12, 2013

Nice, I was scared that they were gonna try and force some bullshit crack pairing eventually. Guess I'll just sit back and enjoy the rest of S2.

Has there been an S3 announcement? I think I saw something about a movie continuation (not Liz).

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:32

Strange Quark: Oct 15, 2012; I Failed At Anime 2022

Ibblebibble posted:

Nice, I was scared that they were gonna try and force some bullshit crack pairing eventually. Guess I'll just sit back and enjoy the rest of S2.

Has there been an S3 announcement? I think I saw something about a movie continuation (not Liz).

https://myanimelist.net/anime/35678/Hibike_Euphonium_Movie_3__Chikai_no_Finale

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:33

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

Yeah Finale movie(s?) are incoming

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:33

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

The Shuuichi stuff in the novels is literally just a tacked on extra released after the story is basically concluded, they can entirely ignore it in adaptation, even if they adapt the novels to the very end. Whether or not they choose to is a different matter, they've been kinda wishywashy about it in interviews, but even the original author has expressed some frustration with that whole thing not coming together the way she wanted it to. If they did adapt it, it'd probably be changed significantly in the adaptation.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:36

Ibblebibble: Nov 12, 2013

I will say, the girls in the show look really different from their designs in Liz.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:47

Aurora: Jan 7, 2008

i remember seeing stuff about how the designs changed for liz and the blue bird

i really wanna see it but there's no showings near me

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:50

Ibblebibble: Nov 12, 2013

Same, I doubt it'll even be released in my country, so I'll just have to wait for the BD release.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:51

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Ibblebibble posted:

I will say, the girls in the show look really different from their designs in Liz.

Different character designers. The character designer for Euphonium is Shoko Ikeda, who also did the designs for Haruhi.

Character designer for Liz was Futoshi Nishida, who did the designs for Free and Hyouka.

Yamada (I think it was Yamada, anyway) mentioned that since Liz has a different protagonist (or, well, protagonists, in a sense) she wanted the world to 'feel' different. The blobbier designs work for Kumiko, but the characters in Liz are a little more mature and emotionally fraught, a little more distant from the world, so the wispier designs fit that a lot better.

It's honestly a really good argument for how much character designers matter, even when adapting, since Ikeda and Nishida were working off the same base designs yet wound up producing very different results.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 10:56