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I'm still afraid that Brandon might decide to kill of Adolin before the time skip It would clear the way for Shallan/Kaladin, while also giving Shallan time off-screen to grieve and get over Adolin. Needless to say, I would not be happy about such an outcome. The Gardenator posted:I read that he's playing around with that Stones Unhallowed name because of its similarity to the 100% written Rothfuss book. That said, I hope the 5th book has an empire strikes back style plot with a major loss for the protagonists and much death. Chances are good that Doors of Stone won't be any closer to release in 6 years than it is now, making it unnecessary to change the title of Stormlight 5.
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Torrannor posted:I'm still afraid that Brandon might decide to kill of Adolin before the time skip I really hope you're wrong. I don't want any more love interest drama. I liked Shallan in Books 1 & 2 but she kind of annoyed me in 3 with the incessant, "Which part of me is attracted to who?" thing. And Mistborn 1 is probably my favorite book, but I think I like Stormlight more overall, so I'd rather Stormlight 4 than the next Wax & Wayne. edit; Besides, we all know Rock is going to fall for her once he sees her wonderful Horneater impersonation
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Torrannor posted:I'm still afraid that Brandon might decide to kill of Adolin before the time skip Not that this necessarily means anything, but I was listening to the podcast he does the other day and he talked about how Adolin was an unplanned character. He didn't exist in early drafts and only appeared when Brandon decided to split Dalinar into two characters because he wanted Dalinar's personality and opinions to be more consistent.
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Olanphonia posted:Not that this necessarily means anything, but I was listening to the podcast he does the other day and he talked about how Adolin was an unplanned character. He didn't exist in early drafts and only appeared when Brandon decided to split Dalinar into two characters because he wanted Dalinar's personality and opinions to be more consistent. Oh no! I would be seriously unhappy about any "murder the hypotenuse" plot. First, because the romance between Shallan and Kaladin doesn't work. And also because I like Adolin and his role in the story. I'd rather have Brandon do something truly shocking (for him [disregarding Kelsier]) and kill off Kaladin or Shallan.
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# ? Jan 29, 2019 14:39 |
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I really want Adolin to reawaken his Blade, and given Sanderson's love of "this is technically possible yet never been done before" I fully expect that to happen. I just hope he doesn't beef it immediately afterwards
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Original draft dalinar actually killed elhokar which was cool.
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# ? Jan 29, 2019 14:45 |
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DarkHorse posted:I just hope he doesn't beef it immediately afterwards
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DarkHorse posted:I really want Adolin to reawaken his Blade, and given Sanderson's love of "this is technically possible yet never been done before" I fully expect that to happen. I just hope he doesn't beef it immediately afterwards I think if he managed to pull that off, the Stormfather would probably freak out a bit. Same with every other spren in the cognitive realm. It would be fun as poo poo, too.
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# ? Jan 29, 2019 23:22 |
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In stormlight 5, all human characters will die and the second half will star an ever growing cast of sentient swords.
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# ? Jan 30, 2019 01:00 |
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External Organs posted:In stormlight 5, all human characters will die and the second half will star an ever growing cast of sentient swords. You joke, but that is the raddest possible future.
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# ? Jan 30, 2019 01:17 |
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Sab669 posted:I really hope you're wrong. I don't want any more love interest drama. I liked Shallan in Books 1 & 2 but she kind of annoyed me in 3 with the incessant, "Which part of me is attracted to who?" thing. I wouldn't worry too much: Arcanum posted:vanahian I too am looking forward to a Mayalaran revival. Doubt that Adolin will get killed off between Stormlight 3 and 4, there's way too much unresolved business between him and Dalinar now!
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Leng posted:I too am looking forward to a Mayalaran revival. Doubt that Adolin will get killed off between Stormlight 3 and 4, there's way too much unresolved business between him and Dalinar now! I'm not worried about Adolin dying between 3 and 4, I'm worried about him dying in book 5. But it's good to hear that there will be no Shalladin. One thought I had recently: Warbreaker is perhaps a better source material for getting turned into a tv series? Awakening is probably more screen friendly than Surgebinding. Colors around Awakeners with a lot of breath are stronger/deeper, and the God King likely has a rainbow aura around him. You can instantly see when somebody is Awakening because something around them loses color and becomes grey. Awakening also doesn't have really flashy effects, it "just" animates things. Probably a way to save money in the special effects department. You can probably see who's a drab by looking for people who look a bit less colorful. It's also much shorter than Stormlight, and a more or less finished story. And nothing in the source material says that the people could not be Asians, IIRC. Which might have been important for the Chinese firm that holds the Stormlight rights.
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DarkHorse posted:I just hope he doesn't beef it immediately afterwards I don't think that would happen just because it's too similar to (Oathbringer spoiler) Elhokar being killed while saying the first oath. I'm guessing he'll wake his sword up, bond it, and then his struggle will be being an edgedancer who has trouble living up to the ideals of his order.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:I don't think that would happen just because it's too similar to (Oathbringer spoiler) Elhokar being killed while saying the first oath. I think he is going to become something completely new. Spren freed from the orders basically. I just see it as how Sanderson did allomancers in 1st Era Mistborn vs 2nd Era Mistborn. He will essentially become the equivalent of "twinborn" in Stormlight Era 1 and they will become more important in the 2nd Era Stormlight as more people will bond 'dead' spren. This keeps the power levels down and provides more interesting combination of abilities. I am very confident about this.
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# ? Jan 31, 2019 02:34 |
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WoT CoT Hey something happened at the beginning of a book! Mat ties Tylin up and leaves her. She is then beheaded by the gholam. oops!
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insider posted:I think he is going to become something completely new. Spren freed from the orders basically. I just see it as how Sanderson did allomancers in 1st Era Mistborn vs 2nd Era Mistborn. He will essentially become the equivalent of "twinborn" in Stormlight Era 1 and they will become more important in the 2nd Era Stormlight as more people will bond 'dead' spren. This keeps the power levels down and provides more interesting combination of abilities. I completely agree. It's clear that Mayalaran is changing, but I don't think it's the Nahel bond as we know it. Here's my personal theory: I think the Nahel bond is described as (or alluded to being?) a spren filling in cracks in a broken human soul, bonding the two together. Presumably severing the bond then tears away part of the spren along with their bearer, "killing" the spren in the process (speculation: this is related to hemalurgy). I don't think Adolin could conventionally bond a spren because he isn't broken. He doesn't struggle with mental illness. He even turned out pretty well, despite his family. Even if he was broken, I don't think that Adolin could be an Edgedancer, based on his personality vs. their oaths (but I could be wrong). Mayalaran is clearly changing. She is broken, but she is reaching towards something more. Normally shardblades can be summoned with dead spren because the spren want to be a little alive again---I think Mayalaran is going further than that, since she is regaining consciousness and will. I think what is happening is the opposite of the Nahel bond, and Adolin is filling in the cracks in Maya's essence(?), and Maya herself is reaching towards something like the saying the words of an oath. Adolin's soul is already connected to Maya through the act of bonding, and he says as much in the first or second book. We know it's possible for a human to lose a bit of their soul without dying (in a few different ways), so this process might not even be as dangerous to Adolin as the Nahel bond is to spren. Adolin has a Connection to Maya as well--he always treated her as a person, even without realizing it. This Connection has to be what is allowing Maya to change and maybe heal. Connection is able to confer surgebinding even without the Nahel bond (see: squires), so I suspect that Adolin could gain access to the surges in this way without a traditional bond. This could be a completely new manifestation of surgebinding, perhaps related to the third set of abilities that is even more esoteric than the Voidbindings mentioned by Khriss (but I havent read up on any theories about this specifically). edit: I don't know if it's ever come up, but I can't shake the idea that the Nahel bond was inspired by kintsugi, the Japanese art of mending broken pottery with gold lacquer: Slanderer fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Slanderer posted:I completely agree. It's clear that Mayalaran is changing, but I don't think it's the Nahel bond as we know it. Here's my personal theory: Wow you put this way better than I could have while getting at the same thing. I think you are 100% spot on. Also you should message Sanderson on reddit about that broken pottery theory that is really good. He usually replies to stuff.
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I could see the spren bonding and order-specific oaths being more like "rules that spren follow when they grant power" more than "supernaturally-enforced laws of magic." The relevance being that I could imagine Adolin bonding Mayalaran without actually being a very good Edgedancer, oath-wise, through a loophole of "Mayalaran owes him a solid, and bucks the rules because Adolin earned it."
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# ? Jan 31, 2019 06:14 |
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But spren can't "buck the rules". At least not without drastic consequences, as Syl found out when she still gave Kaladin her power even when he was violating his oaths.
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# ? Jan 31, 2019 06:39 |
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Slanderer posted:Even if he was broken, I don't think that Adolin could be an Edgedancer, based on his personality vs. their oaths (but I could be wrong). I'm curious why you think this. His protection of the prostitute in Sadeas's warcamp in WoK embodies the third oath Lift swears and his treatment of Maya and his mother's memory embodies the second oath.
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# ? Jan 31, 2019 07:13 |
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Note that the "brokenness" thing is just an in-world theory though.Brandon Sanderson posted:In the Stormlight Archive, there is a tradition among the Knights Radiant that certain traumas and/or psychological handicaps are effective in drawing the attention of a spren. I haven't actually said if that is true or if that's [just] a tradition of theirs. But there is a tradition among the Knights Radiant. that they have noticed something consistent. I'm betting on that it's an incomplete theory. It doesn't apply to everybody. Take Lopen for example.
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Slanderer posted:I completely agree. It's clear that Mayalaran is changing, but I don't think it's the Nahel bond as we know it. Here's my personal theory: This is brilliant and I'm pretty convinced
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Leng posted:Note that the "brokenness" thing is just an in-world theory though. Its probably similar to mistborn, where you can Snap from any emotional extreme, but being in hellworld means not a lot of people get ultra happy.
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# ? Jan 31, 2019 17:51 |
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The last chapter of Winter's Heart makes up for the entire book.
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# ? Feb 1, 2019 05:48 |
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RC Cola posted:The last chapter of Winter's Heart makes up for the entire book. Hell no it doesn’t. It was a good chapter though. CoT is good though chapter 4 so far. It had like 2 really good chapters in a row, which might be a record
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Thanks for the replies, everyoneInfinite Karma posted:I could see the spren bonding and order-specific oaths being more like "rules that spren follow when they grant power" more than "supernaturally-enforced laws of magic." Torrannor posted:But spren can't "buck the rules". At least not without drastic consequences, as Syl found out when she still gave Kaladin her power even when he was violating his oaths. I wish I could remember some of the quotes from the books about the founding of the knights radiant (and how surgebinding was granted differently before the 10 orders were established?). Presumably human-spren bonds must have been possible without any sorts of oaths before Honor took notice, so now that he's gone, I guess maybe that's the case again? Not to mention that Odium's Voidspren were clearly able to bond to humans (temporarily), too. I don't think that spren bonded by oaths can entirely ignore the rules, but who knows what the rules are for dead spren? One thing to consider, though--didn't Syl warn Kaladin about the danger of human surgebinders without oaths to guide them? After all, wasn't it surgebinding that caused the catalcysm on Ashyn? Also, consider what a revived shardblade could be: a once-dead spren, with millennia of anger and impotent fury, brought back to life and consciousness without the restrictions and limitations of a bond to a mortal human, fully manifested in the physical realm. This could be as dangerous as one of the Unmade. Leng posted:Note that the "brokenness" thing is just an in-world theory though. This is a good point, I hadn't considered it. Similarly, Shallan bonding Pattern to some extent before she was "broken" is a big issue. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/175-oathbringer-houston-signing/#e8418 quote:Questioner I feel like there has to be something huge we don't know here--it just seems strange that Pattern would bond Shallan, without oaths, to the extent that he would manifest as a shardblade. I think the Stormfather and Syl both say that manifesting like this is what opens them up to so much harm from humans, right? This is why the Stormfather refuses to become a blade for Dalinar. Unless the answer is that Shallan *did* swear oaths when she was younger, but she buried those memories too. On the other hand, the oaths might have some wiggle room--Wyndle (with a long sigh) manifested as a shard weapon for Lift before she had verbalized the third ideal. Tunicate posted:Its probably similar to mistborn, where you can Snap from any emotional extreme, but being in hellworld means not a lot of people get ultra happy. The source for that is here quote:Suffice it to say that there are people who have Snapped because of intense joy or other emotions. It just doesn't happen as frequently and is more difficult to control. Snapping does have some similarity to whatever predisposes one to spren bonds, but I'm starting to suspect that the similarity is at a higher level (ie, some spiritual realm nonsense Brandon hasn't figured out yet). Allomancy apparently has a "spiritual dna" origin that requires a catalyst to bring it out, but the Nahel bond depends on what attracts a spren, and not on ancestry. I'm not really sure how to square the two, yet. Also remember that Preservation was able to snap people through his power alone (via the mists), without any external trauma (there was the mist sickness, but I think that was caused as an after effect of snapping). Slanderer fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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And while I'm thinking about stuff I don't know: 1. I wonder what passion is. I hadn't realized that it was italicized when Ruin said it, too. This seems important: quote:Valhalla 2. There's some weirdness about aluminum on Roshar. We know it can be soulcast, but is still valuable (Shallan's father gave her an aluminum necklace). I forget if the books stated who had an aluminum soulcaster, though. Regardless, this is weird for two reasons: in Oathbringer, Hoid brings aluminum sheets to line the room with the soulcasters, and no one recognizes the metal--maybe this can be explained as "only rich people have aluminum". But the weirder thing is that Taravangian mentions legends of a light, silver metal that falls from the sky and can block shardblades. This answer seems to close the book on that, except it doesn't add up. There aren't legends about a metal that people can soulcast! Maybe the signing question was wrong, or Brandon misunderstood (or forgot, if his continuity guy wasnt there). Or maybe the reference to the Aluminum necklace is really just an error. But something doesn't add up! The only reason I focus on it is because the power of Shards also seems to condense into silvery metal, and who knows if Honor's shattered power condensed somewhere... 3. On the topic of silvery metal: while shopping in Celebrant, Kaladin comes across that long, thin silvery chain that costs a fortune. It's definitely not aluminum, it can't be a shard weapon (since it's still a weapon) and it's rare. Either it's invested someone, or its related to some other manifestation of investiture (like the Dawn shards), or i dunno...it's made from Dragonsteel? There's really nothing to go on, here, except that Brandon is clearly screaming that this is gonna be related to something important
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Slanderer posted:I wish I could remember some of the quotes from the books about the founding of the knights radiant (and how surgebinding was granted differently before the 10 orders were established?). Presumably human-spren bonds must have been possible without any sorts of oaths before Honor took notice, so now that he's gone, I guess maybe that's the case again? Not to mention that Odium's Voidspren were clearly able to bond to humans (temporarily), too. This has some good points, but also some errors. From the currently known timeline, there were a lot fewer spren on Roshar before Honor and Cultivation showed up. Their investiture, and/or a mixture of said investiture, led to the formation of a lot of new spren. But even so, those spren either didn't form bonds with the Parshendi, or those bonds didn't grant the Parshendi surgebinding (the latter seems unlikely, considering Venli and Timbre). Whatever the case, there was apparently no surgebinding before humans came to Roshar. The humans then bonded with certain spren and got surgebinding. Then the Heralds noticed, and Ishar forced the structure of the Knights Radiants on them. So Honor actually had nothing to do with how the Knights Radiants worked, apart from him being on Roshar (together with Cultivation) led to the existence of the surge-granting spren in the first place. Nohadon speaks about not all spren being as "discerning" in choosing their partners as the honorspren when discussing the surgebinder(s) who caused so much destruction. And this seems to be confirmed with the Dustbringer spren, both in the past and today (Malata and her spren not caring too much about the True Desolation, being more interested in just destroying stuff). It's actually a good question how Ishar forced the Knights Radiants structure, complete with the various oaths, on both humans and spren. Of course, he could have killed any human who refused to comply. But he's no longer able to enforce this, and wasn't able to enforce this for the at first hundreds of years he spent on Braize between desolations. What could he have done to the spren to force them to grant powers to humans only after they swore acceptable variants of very specific oaths? And why are they still following this command, even now that he's no longer around to watch for compliance? Did they swear some kind of oath for them and all their children, honoring the Immortal Words? Why has no spren apparently bonded with a human without following the Knights Radiant model? Odium's voidspren don't fall under this category, and are free to bond humans as they wish, if the personality types match. Slanderer posted:I don't think that spren bonded by oaths can entirely ignore the rules, but who knows what the rules are for dead spren? This is complicated. As far as we know, spren (and Shards) can't break an oath or promise. At least not without breaking themselves. Syl must be bound by some kind of oath, that's why she broke when she granted Kaladin that last bit of surgebinding to save him from dying in that fall. But this ties into my earlier point: Something still binds the spren to behave in certain ways when bonding with humans. How many of the things we think are the "rules" for human-spren bonding are part of that oath/agreement/promise, and how many of the "rules" are just custom/tradition at this point is unknown for now. Granting surgebinding to humans who violate their oaths is definitely forbidden. Is bonding people only within the Knight Radiants framework also part of whatever binds spren, or is that just a custom that might be violated? Personally, I think it's the former, but I won't rule out the latter. Slanderer posted:One thing to consider, though--didn't Syl warn Kaladin about the danger of human surgebinders without oaths to guide them? After all, wasn't it surgebinding that caused the catalcysm on Ashyn? Not quite. She warned Kaladin of Szeth, because he was carrying a honorblade and thus had access to surgebinding without a spren to guide him. Words of Radiance posted:"I can't beat him," Kaladin whispered, tears in his eyes. Tears of pain. Tears of frustration. "He's one of us. A Radiant." This also might give us a clue why there are unbreakable rules in the human-spren interactions. Spren imitated what Honor did with the Heralds. He gave them parts of his own soul shaped like swords, and this gave them surgebinding. Presumably, they had to swear some kind of oath to get those blades. Spren can mimic that to also grant humans surgebinding to humans who swear certain oaths? It would explain a lot, though the formation of the Knights Radiants structure is still mysterious. Also, Ashyn was destroyed by "surgebinding". Whether that's just the term Rosharans used to describe any kind of investiture (like they would call Seons or Threnody Shades spren), or if there really was some kind of surgebinding on Ashyn, possibly very different from Rosharan surgebinding, we don't know yet. Some use of investiture destroyed Ashyn, that's the most we can say with any confidence right now. Slanderer posted:Also, consider what a revived shardblade could be: a once-dead spren, with millennia of anger and impotent fury, brought back to life and consciousness without the restrictions and limitations of a bond to a mortal human, fully manifested in the physical realm. This could be as dangerous as one of the Unmade.[quote] It's clear that the actual act of swearing an oath is not required to become at least partly a Knight Radiant, as long as you live in according to the ideal of your order. Both Kaladin and Dalinar displayed some surgebinding abilities before formally swearing the First Ideal. As for Shallan, since Lightweavers don't follow the same oaths as the other orders, she could have advanced to the level that grants access to a sharblade by speaking truths. But there's certainly something interesting going on with her. It seems clear that "being broken" is not the only way to bond with spren, it just might be the most common way. Also, the Stormfather is a unique spren who usually resides with the highstorms he sends out. Which might very well explain why he won't come to Dalinar to be a blade for him.
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Torrannor posted:Also, Ashyn was destroyed by "surgebinding". Whether that's just the term Rosharans used to describe any kind of investiture (like they would call Seons or Threnody Shades spren), or if there really was some kind of surgebinding on Ashyn, possibly very different from Rosharan surgebinding, we don't know yet. Some use of investiture destroyed Ashyn, that's the most we can say with any confidence right now. canonically the main magic system on Ashyn is still the disease thing brandon has talked about wanting to write a book about ('The Silence Divine'), since the premise of that book was about the creation of a penicillin-like cure for the magic-granting diseases causing the floating cities to crash whether that was exclusively granted by Odium, or whether Odium came later and started giving humans on Ashyn something that looks a lot more like the surgebinding we're familiar with, is I think still a mystery. i believe he's said at least some floating cities still exist, so the fact that an entirely different magic system still exists in the Rosharan system yet we've never seen even a single person use it - especially given the amount of travel between the planets - is kind of weird Slanderer posted:2. There's some weirdness about aluminum on Roshar. We know it can be soulcast, but is still valuable (Shallan's father gave her an aluminum necklace). I forget if the books stated who had an aluminum soulcaster, though. Regardless, this is weird for two reasons: in Oathbringer, Hoid brings aluminum sheets to line the room with the soulcasters, and no one recognizes the metal--maybe this can be explained as "only rich people have aluminum". But the weirder thing is that Taravangian mentions legends of a light, silver metal that falls from the sky and can block shardblades. the weirdness about aluminum is definitely cosmere-wide, not just rosharan. brandon's been very cagey about why it uniquely resists all investiture, but it seems to relate somehow to the killing of Adonalsium and creation of the Shards - a popular fan theory is that it might've been what the weapon was made of, and its use in that event had some ripple effects. but Brandon basically RAFOs all questions also a lot of the intrinsic rarity/value is just that these are largely societies that are just reaching industrial revolution technology, and it's really hard to find or make aluminum until you get the right tech. it's already becoming a big problem in the Mistborn era 2 books and it becoming ubiquitous in the next era of Mistborn (that has 1980s-ish technology) is going to be a big deal quote:3. On the topic of silvery metal: while shopping in Celebrant, Kaladin comes across that long, thin silvery chain that costs a fortune. It's definitely not aluminum, it can't be a shard weapon (since it's still a weapon) and it's rare. Either it's invested someone, or its related to some other manifestation of investiture (like the Dawn shards), or i dunno...it's made from Dragonsteel? yeah, this is strongly implied to be dragonsteel, but what that means and what properties it has are totally up in the air. the draft of that book that some people have read is now largely non-canon, but my understanding is that even there it didn't exactly spell out why the metal would be valuable. eke out fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Feb 2, 2019 |
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I've always figured that aluminum is going to turn out to be Adonalsium's metal. With the reason it resists all investiture being a side-effect of Adonalsium's destruction and aluminum being the inert remnants of that dead god(?).
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Was that the material the knife that (end of Oathbringer) killed Jezerezeh was made of, or was it Odiummetal or dragonsteel or something else?
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DarkHorse posted:Was that the material the knife that (end of Oathbringer) killed Jezerezeh was made of, or was it Odiummetal or dragonsteel or something else? We don't know yet.
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 06:46 |
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It's probably a normal knife, but the gemstone in the hilt is special?
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 08:23 |
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So I've reread parts of Oathbringer again. I wonder if spren must reside in a Parshendi's gemheart to make them a Knight Radiant. If so, that would explain why the spren preferred to bond with humans. Much less limiting, Syl can travel quite a bit away from Kaladin, and the only thing he loses is his ability to wield her as a shardblade (until she returns). Which brings me to the next point, can Parshendi Knights Radiants manifest shardblades if their spren are bound to their gemhearts?
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 13:54 |
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Hell no it doesn’t. It was a good chapter though.
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 17:40 |
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Don’t they wrap shardblades in alluminium for training, too?
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 17:46 |
Avalerion posted:Don’t they wrap shardblades in alluminium for training, too? I believe he's said it isn't aluminum, it's just some weird metal they found that works to dull the shardblades. It doesn't act like aluminum, they describe more like playdoh that happens to be metallic.
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th3t00t posted:uhh... quoted for once you finish CoT. The mat chapters are gold. And the one(?) Rand chapter is good. Otherwise.... Haha, I just hit 3 Perrin chapters in a row. So much for that. At least there's mention of Darkhounds! I think the Shadowspawn and weird creatures are the best part of the books. I want more about them, Grolms, and Raken.
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# ? Feb 5, 2019 18:21 |
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Torrannor posted:This has some good points, but also some errors. From the currently known timeline, there were a lot fewer spren on Roshar before Honor and Cultivation showed up. Their investiture, and/or a mixture of said investiture, led to the formation of a lot of new spren. But even so, those spren either didn't form bonds with the Parshendi, or those bonds didn't grant the Parshendi surgebinding (the latter seems unlikely, considering Venli and Timbre). Whatever the case, there was apparently no surgebinding before humans came to Roshar. The humans then bonded with certain spren and got surgebinding. Then the Heralds noticed, and Ishar forced the structure of the Knights Radiants on them. The depth of Sanderson's world-building is really cool.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The depth of Sanderson's world-building is really cool. if anything that whole thing has proven to me world building is a really bad idea
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