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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Caine Black Knife posted:

twitter cheka mark

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Postoyevsky posted:

they blocked me :grin:

same :colbert:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

lmao

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


So does BSA do anything other than tweet?

Serf
May 5, 2011


Graphic posted:

Most of those factories will have to be converted to war production for the task of spreading communism to the rest of the planet. We're not doing socialism in one country again. Maybe I'll settle for socialism in one hemisphere.

if the usa had a communist revolution, wouldn't the rest of the world basically be at war with us immediately anyways

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




AnimeIsTrash posted:

So does BSA do anything other than tweet?

they tweeted enough to meet with AOC once

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Rated PG-34 posted:

I keep telling dudes that the real power in Westeros is the Iron Bank, bc for some reason you need them to fund poo poo to get poo poo done, and that if anyone had any sense, they’d fight over who controls the bank and not some dumb throne
frank herbert was no marxist but he at least had the sense to realize that the spice controls the universe and by extension the CHOAM company and the spacing guild

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

AnimeIsTrash posted:

So does BSA do anything other than tweet?

he's a corny dude but they actually do some cool events

https://blacksocialists.us/

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Larry Parrish posted:

a coworker told me that nationalizing housing would never work because the property management companies, real estate focused banks etc would leave, and could never explain how that would be bad considering the apartment buildings would all still be there

Property management companies provide an invaluable service and I'm just not convinced that a public body could ignore my emails about my broken boiler with the same efficiency and professionalism

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Serf posted:

if the usa had a communist revolution, wouldn't the rest of the world basically be at war with us immediately anyways

The United States also has the only real blue water navy in the world, so they'd be welcome to try. China's about to be the biggest economy in the world as well, and there's no reason they wouldn't want to keep doing business with a communist United States. The ability of the rest of the First World to lock out the very locus of global imperialism is seriously weak. What could we get from Europe or Japan that's essential in any way? Are they going to freeze all of our accounts? The United States is the sole supplier of the world's reserve currency.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's indulgent to imagine this kind of stuff that probably ain't never gonna happen despite how essential it is TO happen, but if the United States went communist the rest of the world couldn't stop us, and the gravitational weight of our power would keep the Americas in our orbit.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

frank herbert was no marxist but he at least had the sense to realize that the spice controls the universe and by extension the CHOAM company and the spacing guild

Dune is ultimately rooted in a materialist ecological analysis of Arrakis itself and its relation to the rest of the galaxy, and it's incredible just how much that part gets overlooked to focus on all the political drama and prophetic heroism. The ecological stuff is buried in the appendices, and there's even somebody on Good Reads asking if reading the appendices is necessary and all of the replies are telling the questioner that they don't have to. But the appendices are what make Dune a complete work, because it's the metatextual context that informs the narrative. It'd be like reading Watchmen while ignoring all the background information and Tales of the Black Freighter.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The United States also has the only real blue water navy in the world, so they'd be welcome to try. China's about to be the biggest economy in the world as well, and there's no reason they wouldn't want to keep doing business with a communist United States. The ability of the rest of the First World to lock out the very locus of global imperialism is seriously weak. What could we get from Europe or Japan that's essential in any way? Are they going to freeze all of our accounts? The United States is the sole supplier of the world's reserve currency.

well yeah what i mean is that the other capitalist powers would basically have to try some first-strike poo poo to cripple a communist usa. but if we're having a revolution its hard to picture a world where the rest of the west isn't also experiencing some kind of similar huge social upheaval

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


https://twitter.com/DanBoeckner/status/1093839375140442115
:tito:

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Because capital goods are always valued according to a monetary price, people think of those assets in dollar terms and not in productive terms.

Capital being more than just money was one of the first things I learned in my first basic econ course, I could forgive the average idiot saying "But they will take all their capital and leave" but actual economists/people with economics degrees clearly have an agenda since they should know better

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Venom Snake posted:

Capital being more than just money was one of the first things I learned in my first basic econ course, I could forgive the average idiot saying "But they will take all their capital and leave" but actual economists/people with economics degrees clearly have an agenda since they should know better

yeah, so let’s say they do take all of their money with them. the government issues dollars literally from scratch, it wouldn’t be any harder for a socialist government to fund its programs after bourgeois flight than before.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I feel like if an uprising even took root in America, all the other movements in the world would be smart enough to be like "oh poo poo this is it" and get their asses in gear, plus we would all be hollering "oh poo poo this is it, get your asses in gear!" constantly.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1093947576632524800

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Serf posted:

if the usa had a communist revolution, wouldn't the rest of the world basically be at war with us immediately anyways

the entire planet could conspire to invade the US and would fail. to a certain degree you get what you pay for when you decide you want to be an unchallenged imperial hyperpower. we could easily spread communism to all of north and south america and africa piecemeal without facing much challenge.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


china and russia would nuke the US to save capitalism :ussr:

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

china and russia would nuke the US to save capitalism :ussr:

Sophie's choice of supporting a communist country or cheering for USA death....

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
oh man, china funneling weapons and supplies to maga chuds to get Trump back into power :laffo:

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

china and russia would nuke the US to save capitalism :ussr:

so we'll nuke everyone else back. and then they'll say: actually we can't nuke them because we don't want to get nuked. get ready for a century of anti-capitalist conventional war!

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


after the great american proletarian revolution, chinese and russian forces invade to save capitalism. Only a small band of high school students turned guerrillas stand against them and the victory of reaction - the Wolverines But Good.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

after the great american proletarian revolution, chinese and russian forces invade to save capitalism. Only a small band of high school students turned guerrillas stand against them and the victory of reaction - the Wolverines But Good.

:vince:

get Michael Bay on the line!

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Plutonis posted:

Sophie's choice of supporting a communist country or cheering for USA death....

The US should export full communism to the rest of the world and then nuke itself to atone for its sins.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Graphic posted:

so we'll nuke everyone else back. and then they'll say: actually we can't nuke them because we don't want to get nuked. get ready for a century of anti-capitalist conventional war!

Posadas lens flare eyes.jog

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XNLHS8o73Q

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

after the great american proletarian revolution, chinese and russian forces invade to save capitalism. Only a small band of high school students turned guerrillas stand against them and the victory of reaction - the Wolverines But Good.

That seen from "if footmen tire you" but it's a Russian dude making a soyboy step on a picture of Bernie Sanders

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Dreddout posted:

That seen from "if footmen tire you" but it's a Russian dude making a soyboy step on a picture of Bernie Sanders

Bernie: as you died for me, so I will die for yew.

"Cyka blyat!"

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said


It's sad when you learn that not only do the majority of eastern europeans think life was better under communism, but also that the idea that the fall of it was due to popular liberal uprisings is a complete retcon. People just wanted communism with porn and Rambo movies.

Serf
May 5, 2011


i will admit that there is some strange part of me that would love to turn the united states foreign intelligence apparatus to training, arming and supporting left-wing revolutionaries across the globe

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
FBI will be remade into an American Cheka, CIA will become the KGB. Military turned into a People's Militia 20 million strong, just pouring into Canada to go cut off Trudeau's head.

Man this is why there needs to be a proper cold war Paradox game...

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
it says... something, I don't know what exactly, that u.s. leftists can turn from "the u.s. left is anemic and utterly brutalized" to "once we're communism we will engage in 5000 wars to export glorious american communism." It's exactly like when your severely overweight friend starts giving dieting advice because they're cutting out fiber or something.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

sweeping flights of fancy are a symptom of schizoid disorders

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

but also it's because we're all going to die in 9 years

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Impermanent posted:

it says... something, I don't know what exactly, that u.s. leftists can turn from "the u.s. left is anemic and utterly brutalized" to "once we're communism we will engage in 5000 wars to export glorious american communism." It's exactly like when your severely overweight friend starts giving dieting advice because they're cutting out fiber or something.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Serf posted:

i will admit that there is some strange part of me that would love to turn the united states foreign intelligence apparatus to training, arming and supporting left-wing revolutionaries across the globe

the profane flame of Trotsky burns within you :stonk:

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Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said

Forums Terrorist posted:

but also it's because we're all going to die in 9 years

they're turning all our air into poison gas, can i at least get a daydream going so it hurts less

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