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Doctor Grape Ape posted:What's hilarious is that while nobody wants watercooled 911s right now, they are soon going to be dying by the tons. The 996, 997 and I think even 991 have an engine issue where the penny pinchers at Porsche decided to gently caress with an engineering decision. The connecting rod is offset some small amount (1/2 to 1mm IIRC) from the centerline of the piston. This theoretically will cause less wear in the bores, the downside is that you need two different pistons for each side of the engine, this would cost money. So instead they just went with one piston. One would naturally think that if offsetting the rod in the piston in one direction reduces wear, that moving it in the other direction would actually cause wear, which it does. Thus, especially in cold environments, but given enough time in any environment, the piston will scuff the bores into oblivion. The only to way correct this problem is an entire engine rebuild, for about $15-20k, more than the cars are worth at this point. Will a turbo Subaru motor fit in a 911 of that vintage? Surely, a wrecked WRX is less than twenty grand.
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madeintaipei posted:Will a turbo Subaru motor fit in a 911 of that vintage? Surely, a wrecked WRX is less than twenty grand. Yes, but most people just end up using the cars with blown motors as donors for LS swaps, which have their own issues and the swap alone costs about as much as just buying a C5 Corvette, if not more. e: Subaru engine swaps are more popular on the older 914s. My personal dream 914 swap is one with a Subaru SVX H6 
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GiP!
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Murderball posted:BFC? Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious.
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Enfys posted:Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious.
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Enfys posted:Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious. This.
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Enfys posted:Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious.
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Enfys posted:Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious. That's the normal state of affairs of this thread though. Well, those plus lovely humblebrags.
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Since we haven't had any good Des Moines chat recently, I want to share this ClickHole quiz that popped up in my Facebook feed. If you're not familiar, ClickHole is an arm of The Onion satirizing viral media, listicles, BuzzFeed, etc.: How Badly Are You Ripping Off The City Of Des Moines? An excerpt: quote:On the surface, you seem to love the city of Des Moines, but that might not be the whole story. Are you puling a fast one on Iowa’s capital? Take this quiz to find out!
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Enfys posted:Just bring it home already. Car and gun chat with the occasional unrelated BWM thrown in is tedious. Agreed
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Lead out in cuffs posted:So the next stop for this thread is AI, then? There’s been a next stop arranged for a few days but some poo poo came up that required it staying here a bit. It should be moving soon.
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Cyrano4747 posted:There’s been a next stop arranged for a few days but some poo poo came up that required it staying here a bit. It should be moving soon. But daaaaad are we therrrrre yet???
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El Mero Mero posted:GiP! Please, this, we'd have material until the sun dies.
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You are all bad with money and should feel bad about yourselves. Maybe these guys can help.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:What's hilarious is that while nobody wants watercooled 911s right now, they are soon going to be dying by the tons. The 996, 997 and I think even 991 have an engine issue where the penny pinchers at Porsche decided to gently caress with an engineering decision. The connecting rod is offset some small amount (1/2 to 1mm IIRC) from the centerline of the piston. This theoretically will cause less wear in the bores, the downside is that you need two different pistons for each side of the engine, this would cost money. So instead they just went with one piston. One would naturally think that if offsetting the rod in the piston in one direction reduces wear, that moving it in the other direction would actually cause wear, which it does. Thus, especially in cold environments, but given enough time in any environment, the piston will scuff the bores into oblivion. The only to way correct this problem is an entire engine rebuild, for about $15-20k, more than the cars are worth at this point. I've owned a 991 and never heard of this before, you would think given the history with the IMS bearing, any engine destroying engineering fault would with these cars would be discussed ad nauseam. At any rate they sold a million gazillion 991s for 8 model years so I'm not worried about those going extinct
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Motronic posted:It's not an impression, it's reality. PCNA will blacklist you for life if you sell you allocation before delivery or the car itself in less than 12 months from delivery. This must be a very very new policy because as of the current GT allocations and builds there are definitely many dealers and brokers flipping these cars pre and post sale at a handsome markup
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:This must be a very very new policy because as of the current GT allocations and builds there are definitely many dealers and brokers flipping these cars pre and post sale at a handsome markup
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:I disagree. I feel it's quite easy to predict cars that will go up in value (not when, though!). You can observe a car rise in price way before rich people get told to buy it and jump on the bandwagon. This is correct, I don't think it's that hard to figure out that certain cars will maintain or modestly increase their value, the hard part is actually making any bottom line money doing it after transaction expenses, taxes, insurance, maintenance, and the imputed cost of storing an investment car in a protected environment. If you are talking about limited allocation Porsche, Ferrari, or other cars, then there are also exorbitant pay-to-play expenses required to obtain the vehicles directly from the manufacturer in the first place. The other hard part is justifying it as an investment strategy when luxury goods like collector cars are highly correlated with other market investments anyways and offer much worse returns with significant illiquidity and high carrying costs.
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Welcome to e/n Don't edit your posts
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:This must be a very very new policy because as of the current GT allocations and builds there are definitely many dealers and brokers flipping these cars pre and post sale at a handsome markup It first started getting mentioned in 2017. IIRC, Porsche wants a "name for every car" and if they can't get that they are going to reduce production until they can get it, and they seemed serious about not giving allocations to people who were not personally using them. If it's still going on for real it's entirely possible they've begun to back off of that position.
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Craptacular posted:All that tells me is that Porsche is leaving money on the table and needs to start charging more. I couldn't agree more if they were really truly interested in stopping car flipping but tolerating the closely-held car flipping and ADMs is one way that they compensate their dealers and limited allocations are closely tied to sales performance. From a PR standpoint it is much easier for the dealer to be the bad guy running up prices than PCNA. The other issue is that these GT cars are very much irrational veblen goods and no matter what the price is they will sell out and probably trade at a markup for a little while. The GT2RS is the most expensive car that Porsche has sold since the 918 by a wide margin and many of them are optioned way over $400,000, but they are still selling with huge markups at present.
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Good riddance, TFR. E/N is a nice place for cool people to hang out. My coworker is staying in a terrible (but non-abusive, thankfully) relationship because she doesn't think her boyfriend will be able to afford an apartment on his own, and also she doesn't want to have to split custody of their hedgehog.
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Insane that the last two times I posted in this thread, the forums were immediately (literally immediately) DDOS'd. I bet it's possible to determine who is doing that without any information from me!!!!!!!
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Cyrano4747 posted:You are all bad with money and should feel bad about yourselves. like marie kondo, except everything you own put into a launching tube
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There's this really cute girl I like in my bio class, and I'm pretty sure she'll go on a date with me if I co-sign her horse loan for her summer rider. My credit history isn't great, but what if I forge my dad's signature as the co-signer? Is there anything that could go wrong?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Insane that the last two times I posted in this thread, the forums were immediately (literally immediately) DDOS'd.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Insane that the last two times I posted in this thread, the forums were immediately (literally immediately) DDOS'd. Gah double post because I"m an idiot and this is the no-edit forum. We talked about its. If you'd like to talk about it further (I'd love to) respond to the last set of PMs I sent you. You can also reach out to the admins.
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Sundae posted:There's this really cute girl I like in my bio class, and I'm pretty sure she'll go on a date with me if I co-sign her horse loan for her summer rider. My credit history isn't great, but what if I forge my dad's signature as the co-signer? Is there anything that could go wrong? You are going to fall in love with the horse and the girl is going to resent you for it, making bio class very awkward.
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While searching for an auto mechanic recently I came across this: AutoMotorPlex Garage Condominiums. Luxury garages starting at $150,000 for a 2-car space. No attached housing or even housing nearby. It's just a place to store/work on your collectable cars. For $150,000+. 
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I haven’t worked on any of those projects, but shop condos are a good place to store your toys and work on them, plus then the old ball and chain doesn’t know when you buy another project car.
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