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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

PoptartsNinja posted:

But if you're wanting a big showpiece model this is the route I'd take. You'd have to 3D print it through either a 3rd party printing service (which can be expensive) or own a 3D printer yourself though.

Also don't pay money for models that someone just ripped from a game when you can rip it yourself for free

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Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

PoptartsNinja posted:

The new boxed sets did release, but the designs aren't based on the MWO designs.

They definitely look loosely inspired by the MWO ones, but that's disappointing. I'd like to know where you got the actual MWO sculpts. :v:

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

BattleMaster posted:

Also don't pay money for models that someone just ripped from a game when you can rip it yourself for free
I would normally agree, but they asked for simple and those ones were designed to be easy to assemble. They'll still require glue, but they're not just straight rips. Some engineering did go into those.

Lemon-Lime posted:

They definitely look loosely inspired by the MWO ones, but that's disappointing. I'd like to know where you got the actual MWO sculpts. :v:
Since they're not available first party, I think they're safe to link? I got mine from Warhansa, but I do have a few tips.



1) Take a look at the model's displayed parts. If they have separated feet (like the Spider), hard pass. The Spider in general is so tiny it's best avoided, and all of MWO light 'Mechs are spindly and extremely fragile. I'd generally avoid anything smaller than a medium.

2) Their earliest models are their worst-quality ones, and the Atlas and King Crab are both on that list. Flaws in the early models include: tiny arm- and leg-pegs. The later models rectify this.

3) They're Resin, so they must be thoroughly cleaned. The resin is good quality and the newer green resin is tougher than the older buff resin.

4) PGI's Clan 'Mechs are all loving trash and Warhansa's versions are the same. With the exception of the Night Gyr, the Nova Cat, and maybe the Huntsman I'd hard-avoid them in favor of the official pewter models. The Warhansa/PGI Warhawk is particularly bad but that's no loss since the modern IWM Clan 'Mechs are some of their best.

Some of my favorite Warhansa models just in terms of how solid their construction was are: the Cyclops, Zeus, Annihilator, and Black Knight. Their Nova Cat, Warhammer, Rifleman, Shadow Hawk and Marauder are all pretty good too.

For comparison, the worst were the Stalker, the King Crab, and the Quickdraw (and the Spider, holy poo poo is that thing fragile). In every batch I've bought, I've gotten 1 bad or mediocre 'Mech. The Stalker I received was terribly flawed, the King Crab's claws were too thin and easily broken, and it's a miracle I didn't lose the Spider's feet.


Final random tip: If you get a Marauder, you also need to get a Zeus. The Marauder's shoulder autocannon is very small and has deformed in transit both times I've bought one. While that's fixable, it's easier to clip it off and replace it with an autocannon from the Zeus. The Zeus comes with two much sturdier autocannon arms, either of which is perfectly sized to replace the Marauder's gun.



Edit: VVV That's a good point. Those were just the first rips I turned up that seemed to be decent quality.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 23, 2019

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

There's no way the guy added $25-30 of value to the things, plus you can download someone else's rips for free if you don't want to rip it yourself.

Everything the guy is doing is super scummy and you shouldn't support that, especially when it's multiple gunplas worth of cost for some data he ripped off from someone else and added pegs to.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Finally got around to finishing off my RG Red Frame, so some poses an thoughts.



When I was making the Tallgeese the other month I felt a little disappointed that it had so little of the 'advanced joints' or whatever they're called but I can now see why they've scaled back on those on the newer RG's. I actually felt a little cheated that so much of the kit was pre-built, I guess that it's not the full frame that comes pre-assembled but more of a skeleton of a frame (which Is hard to tell on this kit since I guess it's supposed to be lightly armoured with much of the frame exposed). I'm surprised how much was actually on that special B runner, even the little hinge that attaches the shield to the arm was on it. I was confused when attaching the arms, there it a part on each shoulder that's just free-floating on the joint; I guess it's just there to disguise the pegs but I've never seen a part like that on the kits I've made so far.



Stickers went on pretty well, I was worried about the shoulder armour with the design that covers two separate stickers but they came out OK. The eyes are so tiny though that after several attempts with those stickers I still couldn't get the green part low enough so the eyes just look blacked out. Also the foil stickers on the backpack aren't staying down, they're just going to peel off eventually.



Posing possibilities are pretty solid, even if the shoulders aren't as good as the ones on the Tallgeese or Sazabi. The cockpit hatch gimmick is worthless though, it's completly blocked by the red and white part below it and I can't find any way of opening it without taking that piece off. The chromed sword is cool, but the black nub-marks you're left with on it are awful.



These pose-able hands are neat, but I can see why they don't do them with the newer RG's.

In spite of the fact that the kit was laying on my table almost finished for about two weeks I did enjoy the build, other than so much of it being pre-built.



Here is where my collection currently stands: nine kits built since I started in December. Mostly HG with three RG's.
I'm moving in two weeks so now I get to go through the fun process of figuring out how to package these things and what to do with all the extra parts. Currently I've kept all the boxes for the kits I've built but I'm not going to take nine mostly empty boxes with me. I'm thinking of putting all the accessories in envelopes or something. I've got four Master Grades sitting in my private warehouse on Hobby Link Japan which I'm going to ship the week before I move, break-in the new place with a new grade and scale I guess.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Finally finished the wings. Will do the weapons and finish the base's effect pieces tomorrow.



Wings were a bit fiddly to assemble, but I can't argue with the end result.

The Muffinlord
Mar 3, 2007

newbid stupie?
I hadn't considered 3D printing but that sounds like it might be an avenue worth pursuing. I happen to know a guy who is both a career Unity developer and owns a 3D printer, so I'll see if I can cajole him into helping me. It's a shame nobody's ever made a drat six inch tall snap fit kit licensed BattleTech line, though, cause I think that would be a winning idea.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

The Muffinlord posted:

Has anyone ever built a model kit of any of the modern BattleTech designs? I know for a while in the eighties and nineties you could get imported Dougram and Votoms kits under like a Robotech license deal but I want, like, a good, articulated Atlas that I don't have to glue and would look at home next to mah Gundams.

Goodsmile did a whole line of Dougram kits a few years back. I haven't built any so I can't speak to their quality, but they look pretty good

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Well, issues with the IP aside, doesn't Bandai own some of the patents for tech that's part of why their kits are so good? I imagine the expected volume of gunpla sales (and reusable sprues) factors into how and why their kits are so cheap yet so good.

That said, now that they're branching into generic mecha, it'd be lovely to see one-off or small series of "guests" from non-Gundam franchises and such.

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010
What's the worst RG kit? For definitions of worst including "pain in the rear end to assemble" and "tends to explode if you look at it wrong". I've heard bad things about the Sinanju and the Zeta, so those are both on the list for when I want to hurt myself.

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Saw a video that the new RE100 is a Zaku 2 Kai.

asterioth
Jul 27, 2007

If it's worth killing it's worth overkilling.

LibrarianCroaker posted:

What's the worst RG kit? For definitions of worst including "pain in the rear end to assemble" and "tends to explode if you look at it wrong". I've heard bad things about the Sinanju and the Zeta, so those are both on the list for when I want to hurt myself.

The Sinanju is a bit fiddly, the Zeta is a nightmare from what I've heard.

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:

LibrarianCroaker posted:

What's the worst RG kit? For definitions of worst including "pain in the rear end to assemble" and "tends to explode if you look at it wrong". I've heard bad things about the Sinanju and the Zeta, so those are both on the list for when I want to hurt myself.

RG Zephyrantes, Zeta, and even the RX-78. I don't know about the Sinanju since I don't hate myself enough to get it but from looking at reviews on youtube it's mostly balance and joint-tightness issues.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Azubah posted:

Saw a video that the new RE100 is a Zaku 2 Kai.

If that's true, it's a good fit. Goes well with the new Alex while not taking up a MG slot for a variation on the Zaku II that's different enough to need a new mold while not looking different enough to sell to the mass market.

asterioth
Jul 27, 2007

If it's worth killing it's worth overkilling.

chiasaur11 posted:

If that's true, it's perfect. Goes well with the new Alex while not taking up a MG slot for a variation on the Zaku II that's already been made in that grade.

https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/mg-1100-rx-78nt-1-gundam-alex-ver-20_22.html
https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/rg-1144-crossbone-gundam-x1-release-info.html
https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/hgac-1144-gundam-sandrock-exhibited-at-c3-afa-hong-kong.html
https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/re100-zaku-ii-kai-release-decision.html
https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/re100-xm-07b-vigna-ghina-ii-release-info.html
https://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2019/02/hi-resolution-model-1100-gundam-astray.html

Xy Hapu
Mar 7, 2004

It's starting to look like a windmill:

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

Ka0 posted:

RG Zephyrantes, Zeta, and even the RX-78. I don't know about the Sinanju since I don't hate myself enough to get it but from looking at reviews on youtube it's mostly balance and joint-tightness issues.

Is the Zephyrantes worse than the GP01-Fb? The differences look pretty minor.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

New kit announcements for general release.

RE Vinny Vagina II
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098897738794557440?s=19
I'll be honest this is the first I've ever heard of it but ok, sure, whatever.

SDCS Ground Gundam
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098896500027867137?s=19
I'm always up for more Ground Gundam and I've been reasonable impressed with SDCS so far, so this should be good. Also it looks like they're releasing Nd extra set of parts for the SDCS frames to tweak proportions to personal preference.

MG Alex Ver. 2.0 and… ooh, ouch RE Zaku FZ
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098895250293051392?s=19

Also SDCS GGG on display but not confirmed for release
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098794651627089920?s=19

RillAkBea fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Feb 23, 2019

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

RillAkBea posted:

New kit announcements for general release.

RE Vinny Vagina II
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098897738794557440?s=19
I'll be honest this is the first I've ever heard of it but ok, sure, whatever.

SDCS Ground Gundam
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098896500027867137?s=19
I'm always up for more Ground Gundam and I've been reasonable impressed with SDCS so far, so this should be good. Also it looks like they're releasing Nd extra set of parts for the SDCS frames to tweak proportions to personal preference.

MG Alex Ver. 2.0 and… ooh, ouch RE Zaku FZ
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098895250293051392?s=19

Also SDCS GGG on display but not confirmed for release
https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/1098794651627089920?s=19

Any HG annoucements?

Hekk
Oct 12, 2012

'smeper fi

So I read through this thread again and got excited about the idea of building robot models. I still don't know anything about the movies or books or anime but I ordered the "Bandai Hobby MG Gundam RX-78-2 Ver. 3.0 1/100 Scale Action Figure Model Kit", some panel lining markers, and one of those stands so I can make my robot barbie look like he's flying or whatever.

I went to look at my Amazon order and it looks like the seller ships from Japan so it's going to be a couple of weeks before I actually see anything here.

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004
That was my first MG when I picked the hobby back up as an adult. Have fun!

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Any HG annoucements?

I think the Sandrock was new?

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

Ka0 posted:

RG Zephyrantes, Zeta, and even the RX-78.

The RX-78 is really fine. Shoulders are dicey, that's about it.

Tbh the design is so simple I don't think it warrants an RG entry but it's literally The Gundam so whatever.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

TaurusOxford posted:

Finally finished the wings. Will do the weapons and finish the base's effect pieces tomorrow.



Wings were a bit fiddly to assemble, but I can't argue with the end result.

Is it a good kit in your view? The prime92 review felt lukewarm.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Is it a good kit in your view? The prime92 review felt lukewarm.

It's a good kit, but it's more along the tier of SN's Sandrock than their Heavyarms.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

TaurusOxford posted:

It's a good kit, but it's more along the tier of SN's Sandrock than their Heavyarms.

drat - the heavyarms looks good, but I'd be always sad knowing I did have all the Gatling's for it :(

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

LibrarianCroaker posted:

Is the Zephyrantes worse than the GP01-Fb? The differences look pretty minor.

The Full Burnern is fine. The leg design limits ankle movement but it is otherwise solid and looks great on an action base. That being said if you're like me and you don't care about the core fighter, go ahead and glue the top half to the rest of the torso so it's more stable.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

drat - the heavyarms looks good, but I'd be always sad knowing I did have all the Gatling's for it :(

I assume you meant to say "didn't have", cause that Heavyarms is still available (presumably with all 4 gatling guns) for 68 US shipped. : http://www.gundammodelcenter.com/super-nova-heavy-arm-gundam-mg-mo-kai

Edit: On the note of GMC, for those who needed ANOTHER 1/100 scale Metal build Kshatriya to tempt you, http://www.gundammodelcenter.com/steel-legend-nz-666-metal-build-figure

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you
drat, they both look good. Which company is known for better stuff?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

EthanSteele posted:

drat, they both look good. Which company is known for better stuff?

The Steel legend version is made by Mo Show, the guys responsible for those 1/72 scale Aile Strike and Buster Gundams. The Metal Gear version is made by the guys who do copies of all of Bandai's Metal Build figures. In terms of who does better stuff, I think Steel legend has the better pedigree for fit and finish.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

TaurusOxford posted:

I assume you meant to say "didn't have", cause that Heavyarms is still available (presumably with all 4 gatling guns) for 68 US shipped. : http://www.gundammodelcenter.com/super-nova-heavy-arm-gundam-mg-mo-kai

Edit: On the note of GMC, for those who needed ANOTHER 1/100 scale Metal build Kshatriya to tempt you, http://www.gundammodelcenter.com/steel-legend-nz-666-metal-build-figure

I assumed that meant it only came with 4 guns or two pairs in the current release, not 8 guns in 4 pairs (which was the preorder bonus)

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Am I right in thinking these are the next step up in nippers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300...F92C0EW0Q5MR5GT

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

OscarDiggs posted:

Am I right in thinking these are the next step up in nippers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300...F92C0EW0Q5MR5GT

I'm not sure what you're using now but if they're cheap generic nippers, those'll probably be a bit better. I don't think there's really much difference around that price point, it's only when you get into single edge nippers that you start hearing colors and tasting sounds. :v:

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

OscarDiggs posted:

Am I right in thinking these are the next step up in nippers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300...F92C0EW0Q5MR5GT

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300...3PYYYNR4FX47T6J

these are closer to end game, i have a similar pair of Dspiae nippers which are great.

https://xuron.com/index.php/main/consumer_products/3/14 is another good option

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




OscarDiggs posted:

Am I right in thinking these are the next step up in nippers?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamiya-300...F92C0EW0Q5MR5GT

I'd avoid those and go for some of the other Tamiya options (74123 or 74035), they shouldn't be that much more expensive.


I linked this earlier, but it's a very thorough comparison of various nippers (including single bladed ones):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJFYCHfjXYc&t=1s

Veotax
May 16, 2006


These are the ones I got when I upgraded

https://www.hmhobbies.co.uk/mr-nipper-gx-single-edged-fine-modelling-cutters-for-plastic.html

Been very happy with them. Can't imagine how much of a bitch it would have been doing an RG kit without them.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Those Tamiya ones are good but the real ultimate step in nipper upgrades are Godhands. I went from those same Tamiya ones to a pair of godhands and the increase in cut quality was very noticeable.

Now I use the Tamiya ones for removing parts from the runners and then switch to the Godhands for removing the gates. At worst I just need to sand a bit with 2000 grit paper to get a perfect part.

Puddin
Apr 9, 2004
Leave it to Brak
Yeah get a thin double edged nipper for cutting off the sprue and a good single bladed side cutter like a God hand for removing the nubs.

It's insane how much easier clean up is.

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Much as a Godhand looks amazing, buying one would officially mean I've spent more on a pair of cutters then I have on Gunpla kits by about... a tenner at least.

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Puddin
Apr 9, 2004
Leave it to Brak
You can get ones that are the same and a little cheaper.

I was the same originally, but they really are that good.

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