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so is this just gonna be about seth rogen trying to gently caress theron ugh, sounds like a 90s script was laying around
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:so is this just gonna be about seth rogen trying to gently caress theron Theron's character is also the Secretary of State, I think. Rogen is trying to gently caress Hillary Clinton is what I'm saying.
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Mar 1, 2019 03:15
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This summer, Seth Rogen is...THE INCEL
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CelticPredator posted:The Deadpool’s, Logan and maaaaybe The Wolverine. At least until the last act where it goes super dumb. Deadpool and Logan are so good that I don't put them in the same sphere. Perhaps that's unfair.
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Inzombiac posted:Deadpool and Logan are so good that I don't put them in the same sphere. It's not. They're equally good for different reasons and both are far above the standard fair of the origin franchise.
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Logan isn't that different, it's just sad. He even fights an evil clone of himself. But it's sad so you don't notice that that's just as silly as fighting a robot samurai Like, it's way better than the other X-Men movies but it's still very much the same kind of movie.
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Gripweed posted:Logan isn't that different, it's just sad. He even fights an evil clone of himself. But it's sad so you don't notice that that's just as silly as fighting a robot samurai Nah. It is way, way more character focused. Like it's silly in the way that comic books (thankfully) always are, but you can't seriously imply that Logan and X-Men: Apocalypse feature the same narrative character investment.
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Gripweed posted:Logan isn't that different, it's just sad. He even fights an evil clone of himself. But it's sad so you don't notice that that's just as silly as fighting a robot samurai Logan is proof that the silliness of a premise doesn't actually matter, as long as you execute it well.
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Basebf555 posted:I think the first X-Men film holds up very well, mostly because it still feels like a real movie as in it's not just about ping-ponging from set piece to set piece, and it's well shot. It has an actual look and a well thought out color palette and all those things that make a movie feel cinematic and not just people in cosplay outfits. I'll go out on a limb and say the only reason Dark Phoenix looks actively bad is because Lawrence is blatantly not even trying and Sophie Turner is terrible. Apart from that I'd be willing to say it would be no worse than any other Extruded Superhero Product movie.
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Gripweed posted:Logan isn't that different, it's just sad. He even fights an evil clone of himself. But it's sad so you don't notice that that's just as silly as fighting a robot samurai I really feel like they bungled this, but for a different reason. They set up the whole idea of X-Men existing in that world's pop culture, how that was the only context in which the Wolverine comic-style suit existed in, how it was all lies, and how the real Wolverine was far more damaged and traumatized than the wisecracking bub-slinging version in the in-world comics. They set it up so that his daughter idolized that version of her father, then only in time came to love and respect the real version. So when the younger clone shows up, why not go full comic book and have him dressed in the Wolverine costume as a piece of propaganda to make him seem to the world and Logan's daughter that this is the more legitimate, fantasy version of the persona? You can even have the suit be dorky looking and impractical like it probably would regardless, especially when contrasted with the animalistic nature of the clone. Then his daughter can watch her fantasies about her Superhero Dad be dispelled before her eyes.
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So it's Blank Check.
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Isn't Bow Wow currently incarcerated for a bunch of poo poo?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Isn't Bow Wow currently incarcerated for a bunch of poo poo? The movie came out a decade ago
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morestuff posted:The movie came out a decade ago that doesnt explain why they used kai's powertools to make it, im pretty sure that was discontinued in the 90s
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Jedit posted:I'll go out on a limb and say the only reason Dark Phoenix looks actively bad is because Lawrence is blatantly not even trying and Sophie Turner is terrible. Apart from that I'd be willing to say it would be no worse than any other Extruded Superhero Product movie. I mean it looks bad because most modern X-men look weirdly cheap. I’m not sure how you can blame Turner for it looking bad by just being there.
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morestuff posted:The movie came out a decade ago Yeah, I should have realized that when I saw Charlie Murphy's name.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean it looks bad because most modern X-men look weirdly cheap. I’m not sure how you can blame Turner for it looking bad by just being there. That's what I was getting at yea. X-Men and X-Men 2 both have texture to them. Look at those scenes in the X-mansion in X-men 2, you hardly get anything like that in the more recent films, everything has a pretty artificial sheen to it.
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Basebf555 posted:That's what I was getting at yea. X-Men and X-Men 2 both have texture to them. Look at those scenes in the X-mansion in X-men 2, you hardly get anything like that in the more recent films, everything has a pretty artificial sheen to it. I remember First Class looking pretty good. Better than “our budget is the woods” Last Stand and the latter-day gently caress you pay me Singer installments.
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You might wanna look again, First Class looks insanely cheap and the effects are really, really bad.
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Yeah there were complaints even at the time that first class looked cheap. I think most people just assumed it was because they didn’t have faith it would do well since last stand did so much damage but nope turns out they all are gonna look like that.
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Stare-Out posted:You might wanna look again, First Class looks insanely cheap and the effects are really, really bad. The story and characters win out.
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Mar 1, 2019 20:18
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That’s nice but that wasn’t what the convo was about.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah there were complaints even at the time that first class looked cheap. I think most people just assumed it was because they didn’t have faith it would do well since last stand did so much damage but nope turns out they all are gonna look like that. First Class had a bigger budget than X2. But then effects are shown off a lot more these days than X2's were, it's much easier to look cheap with big modern up-close CGI setpieces in every other scene if they don't stand up. Although apparently X3 had a way bigger budget than either, hah, what a waste. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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I’ll cop to the fact that I haven’t seen First Class in years, but I didn’t remember it having the hyper green screen appearances of the later sequels. Like the stuff in London and the bar in Argentina at least looked like they were filmed on a physical set/location. I do remember the costumes looking iffy, but that bold blue/yellow combo didn’t help.
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CharlestheHammer posted:That’s nice but that wasn’t what the convo was about. I'm altering the covo. Pray I do not alter it any further.
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MikeJF posted:First Class had a bigger budget than X2. But then effects are shown off a lot more these days than X2's were, it's much easier to look cheap with big modern CGI setpieces in every other scene if they don't stand up. Well I mean budgets have been inflating for blockbusters for a while and I never said it was cheap it just looks cheap. That X3 fact is baffling however.
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Didn’t X3 have significant reshoots? I remember reading about it being a pretty troubled production.
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First Class was infamously cheap-looking when it came out, yeah. Not as infamous as Wolverine of course. I remember Days Of Future Past looking better.
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MikeJF posted:First Class had a bigger budget than X2. But then effects are shown off a lot more these days than X2's were, it's much easier to look cheap with big modern CGI setpieces in every other scene if they don't stand up. Yea I mean it's not even about budget, it's about filmmaking. The X-mansion is an actual mansion(well not a mansion but an actual functional building) that looks amazing when you shoot there. The costumes, while controversial at the time, were designed perfectly to fit into a universe that needed to still have some feeling of reality to it. Beginning with Last Stand every location seemed to be a very obviously artificially constructed set and they started going even crazier with the looks of the characters to the point where nothing feels genuine anymore.
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CelticPredator posted:The story and characters win out. I don't think it's a bad movie on its own but it looks terrible. I honestly don't remember all that many bad effects in X-Men 3 besides the de-aging at the beginning but I'm willing to forgive that since that tech was in its infancy at the time. Fart City posted:Didn’t X3 have significant reshoots? I remember reading about it being a pretty troubled production. I'm sure it did, Brett Ratner isn't exactly a solid director and a total studio stooge. I don't want to come across as some ardent defender of X3 but I don't think it's as bad as people think. Certainly a disappointment coming off of X2 which is one of, if not the high point of the entire franchise and while X3 has a plethora of problems there's a lot of cool stuff in it, I think, and with some editing would've wound up being a fairly solid movie. Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 1, 2019 |
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Fart City posted:Didn’t X3 have significant reshoots? I remember reading about it being a pretty troubled production. Probably accounts for some of it, but at the time it was made X3 was the most expensive film ever made.
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Chris James 2 posted:In stuff that has me feeling the complete opposite kinda amused that they're straight up reusing a tagline from the original Del Toro movie's marketing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA9vtXbbhVs
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https://twitter.com/ItsJaimeHere/status/1101239120507138048
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That’s a great cover
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If they recall that art i'm gonna be real pissed.
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K. Waste posted:If they recall that art i'm gonna be real pissed. At least we will never forget it.
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 to you both
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Maybe they'll tastefully change it to two giant Michael Keaton's squeezing a lone WTC Tower.
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Fart City posted:Didn’t X3 have significant reshoots? I remember reading about it being a pretty troubled production. I believe it had the opposite issue where the production was incredibly rushed because they wanted it out in less than a year.
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