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Boomer Facebook posted:
Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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"Why didn't you say the welfare recipient was black? We both know you wanted to."
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 01:43 |
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Hello Sailor posted:"Why didn't you say the welfare recipient was black? We both know you wanted to." Uhhh, what about that says anything about race? So much for the tolerant left.
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 01:58 |
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This is basically the smear that destroyed ACORN, claiming that its purpose was to help black people engage in prostitution legally.
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 04:44 |
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Boomer Facebook lol
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 09:51 |
jojoinnit posted:
It's really, really surreal seeing people actually praising ShuckS
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 16:55 |
Really weird cause she doesn’t do anything since they really don’t have press conferences anymore.
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 19:09 |
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Invalid Validation posted:Really weird cause she doesn’t do anything since they really don’t have press conferences anymore. That's the sort of transparency her supporters want.
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 19:12 |
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Invalid Validation posted:Really weird cause she doesn’t do anything since they really don’t have press conferences anymore. She spends her days dropping sick* burns on twitter.
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# ? Mar 19, 2019 21:30 |
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you guys wanna hear the worst poo poo? one of my very online (and aging) uncles has discovered the use of mass text to send poo poo you'd find in this thread. FreedomWire articles straight to my brain, glug glug
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 01:22 |
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:you guys wanna hear the worst poo poo? one of my very online (and aging) uncles has discovered the use of mass text to send poo poo you'd find in this thread. FreedomWire articles straight to my brain, glug glug Wtf
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 02:38 |
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https://freedomwire.com/stop-sending-your-kids-to-college/"Patriotic Truth" posted:
im the social justice waitress
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 03:18 |
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:https://freedomwire.com/stop-sending-your-kids-to-college/ There is no shortage of issues with that article, but I can't get over how bad it reads. It's like two different people each wrote an article on the topic and someone else just interlaced their sentences with no regard to flow.
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 03:42 |
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if only they got some sort of writing lessons from some sort of educational expert that specialized in the written art/word.
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:https://freedomwire.com/stop-sending-your-kids-to-college/ the social justice waitress: best served...cold this idea probably needs more workshopping but I'm inbetween class breaks now
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Autistic Edgy Guy posted:https://freedomwire.com/stop-sending-your-kids-to-college/ I asked for it
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 04:53 |
I can never get over how lomg those loving drizzling ling shits articles are. The kind of people who like that poo poo don’t read that much. It’s why they’re on social media to begin with cause they fuckin love videos or 2 word memes.
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 05:38 |
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I always want to ask "who is college for and not for?" when someone says it's not for everyone.
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 06:55 |
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It's for people who have a career path in mind where a degree is necessary and not for people who don't. It's not that wrong, I'm in retail and there are people with graduate degrees making less than me working alongside me. And trades need people and you make decent money. Especially with some degrees being worthless. I saw a job posting for an outdoor educator job this summer that required a bachelors and started at 10.something an hour. lmao. Ed: still have a screenshot in my roll from lollin about it then nsaP fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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Is the joke there that that job should be at least like 30$ an hour? e: Yeah a Bachelors is the new GED and is being used as a filter.
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nsaP posted:It's for people who have a career path in mind where a degree is necessary and not for people who don't. It's not that wrong, I'm in retail and there are people with graduate degrees making less than me working alongside me. And trades need people and you make decent money. Especially with some degrees being worthless. I saw a job posting for an outdoor educator job this summer that required a bachelors and started at 10.something an hour. lmao. This is such a lovely and quintessential capitalist view of what a University education is "for" and the sooner we can divorce society from this brain disease the better. I know that is essentially what it is for in the context of today's society, I'm just saying that it sucks and generally tends to make people intellectually incurious and think that the only things worth learning are things that make them more money.
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Mornacale posted:I always want to ask "who is college for and not for?" when someone says it's not for everyone. Somebody who wants to be a stay at home parent can probably skip college. We also need people who push broom all day so somebody who decides they just want to do whatever labory things need done can probably skip it too. Trades people also don't need college; plumbers, truckers, electricians, welders, etc. don't need to be university educated. A hell of a lot of trades you can pick up through apprenticeship programs. I've met a fair number of computer touchers that never went to college at all; some of them are entirely self-taught while others did a bootcamp then went into entry level positions. They're doing just fine. That's just off the top of my head. Yeah there are job where a degree is a hard requirement but telling everybody they have to go to college is pretty crazy. ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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The idea that "you have to go to college or you won't amount to anything in life" is such an insidious one, but also incredibly pervasive.
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Mornacale posted:I always want to ask "who is college for and not for?" when someone says it's not for everyone.
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nsaP posted:It's for people who have a career path in mind where a degree is necessary and not for people who don't. It's not that wrong, I'm in retail and there are people with graduate degrees making less than me working alongside me. And trades need people and you make decent money. Especially with some degrees being worthless. I saw a job posting for an outdoor educator job this summer that required a bachelors and started at 10.something an hour. lmao. Love how it's 37.5 hours, not 40, so no healthcare
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darthbob88 posted:People who want to work in a credential-requiring or creative field, like STEM, medicine, engineering, writing, music, should go to college because they/we would benefit significantly from it. People who work primarily in trades or semi-skilled labor would get less financial benefit from a degree. On the other hand, if a construction worker wants to learn about Baroque paintings because it would make him happy, who am I to say no? You can learn about Baroque paintings outside of college and in that case said construction worker could just sign up for the class without actually seeking a degree. The other really freaking weird thing is this attitude that you absolutely must only ever learn things in a classroom. But it's like...libraries have existed almost as long as writing. Now we have the internet which gives you access to more information than you could ever possibly consume. There's just no need to step into a classroom for some things.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:You can learn about Baroque paintings outside of college and in that case said construction worker could just sign up for the class without actually seeking a degree. The other really freaking weird thing is this attitude that you absolutely must only ever learn things in a classroom. The issue is not that you are unable to learn things in classrooms, it's that learning them without proof of doing so is almost worthless in a business sense. College isn't for education, it's for passing an HR screen
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ToxicSlurpee posted:But it's like...libraries have existed almost as long as writing. Now we have the internet which gives you access to more information than you could ever possibly consume. There's just no need to step into a classroom for some things. the internet is chock full of garbage information and information that would benefit from interpretation, the role of an educator is not simply to broadcast an educational signal to be received by some remote unit but rather to act as a guide and a gateway to what information is good to know, and how to consume it even libraries aren't just piles of loose books, libraries happen to be filled with librarians who are trained to help people find books which are useful for whatever it is the patron wants to learn about further, it helps to have a dedicated time set aside to do a thing with someone who knows what they're doing. anyone can just go into a field and move rocks around but gyms exist and so do personal trainers. anyone can put vegetables in a pot with some boiling water but recipes exist and so do cooking workshops if anything the huge amount of information on the internet underscores the necessity of someone to help you sort through it all. anyone can learn history from watching youtube all day, except whoops that's a great way to become a holocaust denying nazi Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 20, 2019 |
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The best part of my uncle sending me that article is I'm the first person on that side of the family (and the other side actually) to earn a degree from a four year college, or anything beyond a CDL really. You can talk about how pointless college is and take whatever attitude you want, you might be right, but its different when no one in your family has been able to go.
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luxury handset posted:the internet is chock full of garbage information and information that would benefit from interpretation, the role of an educator is not simply to broadcast an educational signal to be received by some remote unit but rather to act as a guide and a gateway to what information is good to know, and how to consume it Which is why it's important to learn to vet information. Assuming that everybody who watches a lot of YouTube will eventually become a Nazi is really quite wrong. Yeah that happens but it's a pretty small minority of people. There are entire channels of videos made by literal professors on a subject giving in depth explanations about pretty much anything you want to know. I learned about differential equations and complex analysis that way. Even so that's why I said it's fine to just take random classes in whatever interests you; you don't have to be seeking a degree to take a class in something nor do you have to even give a single crap about degrees at all if they aren't relevant to whatever it is you're doing in life. For some people degrees aren't relevant. A fork lift operator who decided to just be a fork lift operator his entire life doesn't need a degree. It just isn't relevant to that career; all that matters is that he has the proper certifications for the fork lift whatever they are. Yeah he can take classes in whatever random crap he takes an interest in but getting a degree would be pretty pointless. Autistic Edgy Guy posted:The best part of my uncle sending me that article is I'm the first person on that side of the family (and the other side actually) to earn a degree from a four year college, or anything beyond a CDL really. You can talk about how pointless college is and take whatever attitude you want, you might be right, but its different when no one in your family has been able to go. I'm a first generation college student to. I think one of the things that's been happening is these people are seeing a cultural shift that shits all over people who don't have degrees. What I'm saying is that I think that's absurd. If somebody decides that they're totally cool with driving truck for their entire working life then, hey, more power to him we need people to drive trucks. You don't need a bachelor's degree to drive a truck well.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Which is why it's important to learn to vet information. brb, teaching myself how to vet my own information and develop a critical sense of media literacy on my own while flying around like a galaxy brain witch by pulling on my own bootstraps
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CuddleCryptid posted:Love how it's 37.5 hours, not 40, so no healthcare Also the schedule is 40 hours plus some evenings.
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luxury handset posted:brb, teaching myself how to vet my own information and develop a critical sense of media literacy on my own while flying around like a galaxy brain witch by pulling on my own bootstraps In a good world, we would be teaching people things like critical thinking skills and how to engage with information and persuasive writing and basics of philosophy, etc. in high school, so that everyone would have the chance to benefit from those skills and would be better equipped to learn independently once they were done with basic schooling - they could go to college, sure, but would also have better skills for simply learning. Instead we orient all the required education toward rote learning and test taking, so now colleges spend the first year doing remedial education and teaching people how to actually write instead.
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Ashcans posted:In a good world, we would be teaching people things like critical thinking skills and how to engage with information and persuasive writing and basics of philosophy, etc. in high school, so that everyone would have the chance to benefit from those skills and would be better equipped to learn independently once they were done with basic schooling - they could go to college, sure, but would also have better skills for simply learning. Worse, I'm friends with a lot of people who decided to go into teaching to "give back." Now if you try to teach critical thinking or analysis of modern events you'll have parents screaming at you and administration coming down on you because Johnny questioned Fox News or a pastor's anti-gay sermon. And this is in the suburbs of California. I can only imagine how bad it is in the Midwest or other places where conservativism is the norm.
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PJOmega posted:Worse, I'm friends with a lot of people who decided to go into teaching to "give back." Now if you try to teach critical thinking or analysis of modern events you'll have parents screaming at you and administration coming down on you because Johnny questioned Fox News or a pastor's anti-gay sermon. And this is in the suburbs of California. I can only imagine how bad it is in the Midwest or other places where conservativism is the norm. the suburbs of california are a place where conservativism is the norm, don't fool yourself california gave the nation ronald reagan and richard nixon. bill clinton was from arkansas
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 20:14 |
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I teach children critical thinking on the streets, driving my rascal at them at top speeds and waving a broomstick around.
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# ? Mar 20, 2019 20:31 |
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Critical thinking is difficult and emotional appeals can override that pretty easily even among people you think are very sophisticated. We're still stupid, stinky apes. Never forget that.
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Remember when the Texas state gov. banned critical thinking due to commie atheism
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luxury handset posted:the internet is chock full of garbage information and information that would benefit from interpretation, the role of an educator is not simply to broadcast an educational signal to be received by some remote unit but rather to act as a guide and a gateway to what information is good to know, and how to consume it On this same note I work in the Archives, which works differently than even "normal" libraries. And let me tell you if we weren't there most people couldn't find their way through the front door without our help. Not because they're stupid, It's just a whole different way of organizing, processing, and finding information.
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PJOmega posted:Worse, I'm friends with a lot of people who decided to go into teaching to "give back." Now if you try to teach critical thinking or analysis of modern events you'll have parents screaming at you and administration coming down on you... Activities involving critical thinking necessarily suffer because graduates have no framework with which to categorize ideas. Language, philosophy, science, are all predicated on definitions, making communication very difficult when someone doesn't know the definitions and likewise believes "I had the right idea". Self-taught individuals often lack understanding of underlying design, purpose and intent, and important interrelationships of the systems, tools, or ideas that they learn. This can snowball into inefficiencies in industry and business since it affects team productivity and product development (whether in design or manufacture). A well designed course of higher education should establish not that an individual can "use" or "apply", but that they "understand why it's used that way" and "why it's applied in that fashion" (and many other things). In college one should learn to "ask" not "do". This is "excessively liberal".
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