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Finally, a less expressive and less visually interesting shot-for-shot remake of the Lion King where I can count the number of hairs on the warthog's head
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It does look to be, quite bizarrely, shot for shot. What a weird rear end decision.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:39
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I have not seen any of the other Disney remakes, are they all shot by shot remakes? Dumbo it looks like at least had some new stuff
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Apr 10, 2019 15:40
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I have not seen any of the other Disney remakes, are they all shot by shot remakes? Dumbo it looks like at least had some new stuff Dumbo had to add a bunch of new stuff because the original cartoon was barely over an hour.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:42
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I have not seen any of the other Disney remakes, are they all shot by shot remakes? Dumbo it looks like at least had some new stuff Beauty and the Beast was a mix of both. Lots of stuff lifted directly from the animated version and just filmed straight, while also fleshing out some characters (like making Maurice an actual character, and exploring his relationship with Belle better), and adding some crazy poo poo (like a teleportation book, which I guess was a gift from the witch who cursed him?). Oh, and it made one character gay. Kinda. Cinderella was definitely doing it's own thing.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:48
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That is what I thought Also what is it with Disney casting villians that are not villiany. Jafar and Scar seem poorly cast
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Apr 10, 2019 15:53
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On the bright side, Timon looks adorable! Though I could just find Meerkat Manor somewhere and rewatch that for the same effect.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:54
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Looks very pretty but, once again, a trailer with no characters actually talking to eachother... weird choice.
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Apr 10, 2019 15:59
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They might still be working on the animals talking special effects, so it can't be in much of the trailers yet.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:05
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clown shoes posted:Interesting factoid: Mercedes McNab, who plays perky camper Amanda Buckman, played the girl scout in the first movie. I like to think they're the same character. She also played Harmony Kendall in Buffy, and I like to think they're all the same character.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:32
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Deakul posted:Looks very pretty but, once again, a trailer with no characters actually talking to eachother... weird choice. That's how it's going to be in the movie. Every time a character opens its mouth to start talking they just cut to a voiceover played over some nature documentary stock footage.
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Apr 10, 2019 16:34
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Sincere question: How close to the original does something have to be to be considered "shot-for-shot"? Like, there are clearly a bunch of iconic shots being replicated in that trailer, but there are also plenty of new ones, as well as dialogue that isn't from the original. Is shot-for-shot more an in-spirit kind of thing, where it's clear the creators of the remake had no intention of deviating from it to any large extent?
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Apr 10, 2019 16:59
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Toaster Beef posted:Sincere question: How close to the original does something have to be to be considered "shot-for-shot"? Like, there are clearly a bunch of iconic shots being replicated in that trailer, but there are also plenty of new ones, as well as dialogue that isn't from the original. Is shot-for-shot more an in-spirit kind of thing, where it's clear the creators of the remake had no intention of deviating from it to any large extent? I was exaggerating a bit for the joke, I'm sure it'll have some original stuff but the individual scenes could be described as "shot-for-shot remakes"
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Apr 10, 2019 17:18
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Deakul posted:Looks very pretty but, once again, a trailer with no characters actually talking to eachother... weird choice. I was apprehensive about the life like animals talking or showing emotion before I watched Jungle Book, and that turned out to be completely fine. I can only imagine that they've improved the method since then. The Lion King has been in my top 3 of favorite movies ever since I saw the original release at age 6 and this trailer does nothing wrong in my opinion. It plays heavily on nostalgia for the older crowd, but that's a big part of why these movies are being made in the first place. Graphically it's just downright freakishly realistic. At first glance you really wouldn't be able to tell these characters from real lions (with the exception of Scar, probably).
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Apr 10, 2019 17:18
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James Earl Jones is all I needed to hear. 
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Apr 10, 2019 18:18
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I said come in! posted:James Earl Jones is all I needed to hear. His voice in this was interesting. He's making it sound different than it did before. Like, a little higher. And I don't just mean because he's older. His Darth Vader in Rogue One sounded the same as usual, just older. Here it's pretty distinct, like he's trying something new. Maybe I just need to hear it with something with better base than my ear buds. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 18:20
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Using photorealistic CGI to make seemingly-real animals reenact Hamlet just doesn't do anything for me over the much more colorful and lively original.
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Apr 10, 2019 19:06
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I'd be totally into the new Lion King if they didn't have any talking or singing at all. I think it'd be really interesting to see if they could tell the story that way. I'm nostalgic for the old live action animal adventure movies, so if computers can bring those back, minus the animal cruelty, I'm into it. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 10, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 19:58
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Deakul posted:Looks very pretty but, once again, a trailer with no characters actually talking to eachother... weird choice. Probably because it's going to look loving strange. The emotional expressions by the cartoon characters in the original is part of what made it such a classic. A good example of this is the ingenious smugness of Scar in the Be Prepared song - Jeremy Irons has such a distinct and iconic voice, too. So far none of these elements are present in the new trailers. Imagine this with a photorealistic lion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkU23m6yX04 https://twitter.com/alip1118/status/1115973930756583424
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Apr 10, 2019 20:38
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Slutitution posted:Probably because it's going to look loving strange. You'll have to just imagine it. Be Prepared is one of the songs they cut for this version. Which is just unforgivable.
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Apr 10, 2019 20:48
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Wow, I didn't even know that. The more I read about this, the more generic it looks. Goddamn Disney, goddamn...
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Apr 10, 2019 20:51
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thrawn527 posted:You'll have to just imagine it. Be Prepared is one of the songs they cut for this version. Which is just unforgivable. Welp. There goes my interest.
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Apr 10, 2019 20:53
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Actually, hang on, that's what they originally said when they started production, but I'm seeing something from Feb of this year saying it's back in? https://geektyrant.com/news/be-prepared-may-be-in-the-lion-king-after-all
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Apr 10, 2019 20:55
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Edit- beat me to it ^ https://geektyrant.com/news/be-prepared-may-be-in-the-lion-king-after-all
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Apr 10, 2019 20:57
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thrawn527 posted:Actually, hang on, that's what they originally said when they started production, but I'm seeing something from Feb of this year saying it's back in? But will it still have the obvious nazi imagery?
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Apr 10, 2019 23:40
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"Unfortunately the hyena's actual skeleton does not lend it's self to goose-stepping" observed a frowning animator.
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Apr 10, 2019 23:44
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So many Pokemons in this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=198gzllaumo
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Apr 11, 2019 00:38
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TigerXtrm posted:Graphically it's just downright freakishly realistic. At first glance you really wouldn't be able to tell these characters from real lions (with the exception of Scar, probably). Can you really not see how this is a loving weird choice, though? Like, the stylization of the first Lion King is a very large part of why any of it works and makes sense at all. It gets across that the story, rather than intended to be in any way "realistic," is essentially an animal fable or folktale. Photorealistic CGI lions doing musical numbers and having essentially a heraldry dispute is gonna be a whole lot more jarring and strange than stylized hand-animated ones, and that trailer does nothing to disabuse me of this notion.
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Apr 11, 2019 00:50
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Yeah, but, like, it'll be fine.
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Apr 11, 2019 01:16
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how am i gonna know that these lions are DTF if i can't see them make gently caress-faces at each other
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Apr 11, 2019 03:36
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It's still gonna make a billion dollars. Probably.
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Apr 11, 2019 03:53
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It has Beyonce in it, singing at least one brand new song and covering one of the more popular songs from the original, in addition to a bunch of other very popular cross genre entertainers in the cast. It's going to make a billion dollars, weird photorealism be damned.
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Apr 11, 2019 04:05
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Yeah the lions are so well done you can see there's nothing goin' on behind those eyes. It's some Homeward Bound poo poo. What haunts me is that, in all the faces of all the bears that Treadwell ever filmed, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature. To me, there is no such thing as a secret world of the bears and this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in food.
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Apr 11, 2019 04:34
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The "Morticia lighting" visual gag always gets me, no matter how many times I see it. Anjelica Huston will always be Morticia to me. And Raul Julia as Gomez... he was perfection. Deadpan Christina Ricci as Wednesday was fantastic too. I mean I love those two movies enough that any attempt at sequels/reboots will always fall short to me.
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Apr 11, 2019 04:46
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Mat Cauthon posted:It has Beyonce in it, singing at least one brand new song and covering one of the more popular songs from the original, in addition to a bunch of other very popular cross genre entertainers in the cast. One billion is a given, but I wonder if it'll hit the two billion dollar marker. One billion is no longer note worthy for a blockbuster movie.
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Apr 11, 2019 06:00
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Slutitution posted:
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Apr 11, 2019 06:27
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Eh! Frank posted:Yeah, animated characters being able to express a wider range of emotions is proof that the Pokémon Movie is superior to Godfather and every other realsie movie. I wish there was a cure for willful ignorance like this.
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Apr 11, 2019 06:35
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Jesus are they doing two live action Disney remakes a year now?
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Apr 11, 2019 06:36
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Eh! Frank posted:Yeah, animated characters being able to express a wider range of emotions is proof that the Pokémon Movie is superior to Godfather and every other realsie movie. It's comparing animated animals to real animals not live action humans you dumbass
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Daddy Thanos posted:Jesus are they doing two live action Disney remakes a year now? Of course not They’re doing 3 a year (Dumbo, Aladdin, Lion King)
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