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Duckula
Aug 31, 2001

do not resuscitate

Davros1 posted:

Probably just threw together a bunch of blocks into a person shape and made it CEO.

You severely overestimate the clutch power of Lepin bricks.

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Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Duckula posted:

You severely overestimate the clutch power of Lepin bricks.

Which is better than Lego clutch, actually. It can be downright difficult to separate Lepin bricks.

jeff8472
Dec 28, 2000

He died from watch-in-ass disease
I've built 2 Lepin sets. They're probably 80-90% as good as real Lego bricks. Some pieces clutch better and others are much worse. They are inconsistent at best. Some 2x8 or longer plates have a real bow in them. Had a few swirls in gray pieces where the plastic wasn't mixed properly. Corners are sharper.

jeff8472 fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 29, 2019

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
That's like one of those marbled test bricks

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The real cost of lepin is it will take more effort to sort them out of a lot if you're a purist.

Trash like Megabloks are easy to spot and discard. But these pure knockoffs are close enough that you have to check the studs for the lego logo or injection holes to tell the difference.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

Olpainless posted:

The fact that they blatantly just rip designs from both Lego and fans is just massively scummy as all hell, sorry. At least other clone brands make their own sets and piece designs.

True but it's not like 99% of MOCs were going to make the creator any money, or be seen by a vast majority of Lego builders..

Edit: VVV who cares about copyright law? No one is going to successfully sue a chinese company in china over their stolen MOC design they shared on instagram.

ChesterJT fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Apr 30, 2019

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That's not how copyright works.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


ChesterJT posted:

True but it's not like 99% of MOCs were going to make the creator any money, or be seen by a vast majority of Lego builders..

You are defending a company directly stealing designs from regular people because they have a means of production/distribution that MOC makers don't? :pwn:

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Here's the real question though. Is their Star Wars line still called STAR WNRS?

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

veni veni veni posted:

You are defending a company directly stealing designs from regular people because they have a means of production/distribution that MOC makers don't? :pwn:

I'm not defending anyone, Lepin could get burnt to the ground and it doesn't both me at all. I'm asking the question of who is hurt by their actions? If I'm the lowly MOC creator making stuff for fun and sharing it online and I find out 6 months later Lepin/whatever they are called now is manufacturing that set how does that affect me? If I'm Lego then yeah I'd probably have some real skin in the game and maybe the muscle (ie money) to shut them down, even in China, land of knockoffs.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Because when you create something the law in pretty much every country on the planet says that other people can't monetize it for their own gain without your express permission.

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

ChesterJT posted:

I'm not defending anyone, Lepin could get burnt to the ground and it doesn't both me at all. I'm asking the question of who is hurt by their actions? If I'm the lowly MOC creator making stuff for fun and sharing it online and I find out 6 months later Lepin/whatever they are called now is manufacturing that set how does that affect me? If I'm Lego then yeah I'd probably have some real skin in the game and maybe the muscle (ie money) to shut them down, even in China, land of knockoffs.

Lepin worker spotted

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The fact that people can sell instructions for their designs on several MOC sites disproves your "no one gets hurt" argument.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



xzzy posted:

Because when you create something the law in pretty much every country on the planet says that other people can't monetize it for their own gain without your express permission.

Except, you know, China.

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

s.i.r.e. posted:

Except, you know, China.

Exactly. Apparently he's never heard of the knockoff capital of the planet.

Cojawfee posted:

The fact that people can sell instructions for their designs on several MOC sites disproves your "no one gets hurt" argument.

That's the RIAA argument, believing that everyone buying a knockoff would have bought the real thing if the knockoff didn't exist.

Butterfly Valley posted:

Lepin worker spotted

I don't know what you're talking about comrade, I am a proud worker at Nuogao!

ChesterJT fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Apr 30, 2019

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Oh I see, because China has lovely copyright protections that completely invalidates the point that there is copyright anywhere in the world, and therefore, people who have their MOC's ripped off by Lepin for sale are not being injured at all.

:goonsay:

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
I think I can put this to bed for everyone... no one really seems to be white knighting Lego here...

Despite whether any damage to a MOC maker is real or just theoretical, this is a company that traffics solely in stolen ideas. They rip off Lego. They rip off average joes. They thumb their nose at ethics.

If I have to land on any side of a coin I’m going to go with “gently caress them.”

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I like the concept of being able to buy old sets that aren't available anymore, but I'd always know it's not real Lego, so gently caress em.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
What I don't get is why Lego blocks tend to feel so much better than knock off bricks. Somehow the corners and edges are just way sharper on knock offs. :(

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.

Darth TNT posted:

What I don't get is why Lego blocks tend to feel so much better than knock off bricks. Somehow the corners and edges are just way sharper on knock offs. :(

I'd assume the Lego manufacturing process involves injection moulds with better, softer edges. Or that they actually smooth all bricks by tumbling them a certain amount.

Olpainless
Jun 30, 2003
... Insert something brilliantly witty here.

Attestant posted:

I'd assume the Lego manufacturing process involves injection moulds with better, softer edges. Or that they actually smooth all bricks by tumbling them a certain amount.

They're ridiculous on quality control when it comes to piece design, and yeah, something like this would be a big thing they worked on early - sharp edges hurt kids!

Knock-offs probably don't care as much.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."
First teaser stranger things. 200 dollars. 8 Minifigures

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw4VQXonvAC/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=bqkthixbn7rr

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
I have bought a few knock off Lego sets, the all came from Alix China and as far as I can tell they all look like Lepin, but they all have had different brand names that are not Lepin. The first one I bought was the Chinese new year dragon since Lego wasn't going to release it in the US. Next I bought a couple bags of miscellaneous Technic beams and gears, I'm kinda afraid to use them since I don't want to accidentally mix them in with my real Lego. My latest purchase was a red Technic style dragon fly and a bumble bee. To my knowledge they are not official Lego sets, I suppose they could be MOCs that were copied but I think these might actually be original sets. On this order, the seller also sent a small green Ninjago dragon which I let my son put together and he loves it so I ordered 3 more in red, white and blue. Those were the first sets I bought knowing they were knock offs that are likely available in my area, I genuinely would not have bought the green dragon set or any of the others if it wasn't for Lepin sending my son a small sample of the ABS crack to get him hooked. I don't like buying Lepin, but I don't buy a lot of Lego either anymore.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Easy solution to not mixing lepin with lego: glue the lepin set you're building together. It's likely you bought it because it was that particular set, right? If you need bricks to build mocs with, there's plenty of cheap massed options available of legitimate legos. But if you want to build the UCS SSD for 60 bucks or whatever, gluing it together isn't unreasonable since it's a display piece anyways.

I ain't lord business because lepin aren't legos :v:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Somehow that's even more offensive to me. :v:

Having building blocks you can't build with makes me all twitchy.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Captain Invictus posted:

Easy solution to not mixing lepin with lego: glue the lepin set you're building together. It's likely you bought it because it was that particular set, right? If you need bricks to build mocs with, there's plenty of cheap massed options available of legitimate legos. But if you want to build the UCS SSD for 60 bucks or whatever, gluing it together isn't unreasonable since it's a display piece anyways.

I ain't lord business because lepin aren't legos :v:

Better yet, just keep your sets together. Don't mix the bricks.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007

Captain Invictus posted:

Easy solution to not mixing lepin with lego: glue the lepin set you're building together. It's likely you bought it because it was that particular set, right? If you need bricks to build mocs with, there's plenty of cheap massed options available of legitimate legos. But if you want to build the UCS SSD for 60 bucks or whatever, gluing it together isn't unreasonable since it's a display piece anyways.

I ain't lord business because lepin aren't legos :v:
I have never once use the Kragle on Lego bricks but I am just about ready to Kragle up the Ninjago Dragon's legs if they don't stop falling apart, it's not like it's Lego.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

:flashfap:

Gonna buy the gently caress out of that.

Edit: Stranger Things is my favorite license they've picked up since Ghostbusters.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."
It's the 5 kids, Joyce. Hopper and demigorgon. Pour one out for Nancy, Barb and Steve. Jonathan too I guess.

ptkfvk
Apr 30, 2013

How often do they change the PaB wall at stores? Is there any way to check whats on the wall without going into the store?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's about once a quarter.

There used to be a fan website that tracked it but it died.

There's usually a few bins of random crap that's unique to each store too, so if you're in the area and like getting parts it's always worth stopping by.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy
It depends heavily on the store. I haven't gone in quite some time, but the Disney Springs store has never really had the same stuff anytime I've gone, and I'm talking a couple weeks apart in a lot of cases. That said, it's also obscenely busy. Slower stores probably have a more regular schedule.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Goddamn this Ideas Countach is a clean build.

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/8e64e16f-ec3b-41ea-9e72-3ebc01114cf9

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

xzzy posted:

Somehow that's even more offensive to me. :v:

Having building blocks you can't build with makes me all twitchy.

They're not real blocks. It would be like blowing up your go-bots with fireworks while keeping your Optimus Prime safe in your room.

MarxCarl
Jul 18, 2003

Attestant posted:

I'd assume the Lego manufacturing process involves injection moulds with better, softer edges. Or that they actually smooth all bricks by tumbling them a certain amount.

Here's a good video on injection molding, about 7 minutes in he goes into detail about Lego bricks and how their molds are done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMjtmsr3CqA

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Looks too spacious on the inside.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Does look pretty good but not minifig scale?

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
I dunno, having tried repeatedly to make 6 wide cars (and not having Carbohydrates' skill) 8 looks fine with minifigures and allows for much better lines. 7 wide is probably the golden standard as it allows for centred 6 wide windshields, but that poo poo is difficult

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ChesterJT posted:

That's the RIAA argument, believing that everyone buying a knockoff would have bought the real thing if the knockoff didn't exist.


A funny thing is I am actually trying to get in touch with SOMEONE in Lionsgate about a professional physical bootleg dvd ebay business. Having zero luck.

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~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Cojawfee posted:

If the last CEO was arrested, what is the incentive for this new CEO? I don't think we'll ever have a decent clone brick business. Copying the actual bricks is most likely also illegal, so it ends up just being a slippery slope. They can sell discontinued and custom sets, but then it's too easy to just start selling new sets since you already make all the bricks.

Copying the bricks is the 100% legal part.

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