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oneforthevine posted:For the Hannibal release, specifically: That's good to know, thanks! It seems like manufacturing delays are more common with UHD, we've seen it happen a few times.
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Boywhiz88 posted:microcinemas! How "legal" is that, I mean if a small movie house just straight-up shows their own personal collection of movies on 35mm or digital files or whatever? Can they charge admission, do they need permits, do they have to go to the rights holders and pay out the nose for exhibit fees? Or can they do it in some kinda legal gray area where they sell refreshments to make money but admission is free? I'm kinda asking because I would loving love to open something like that.
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:13 |
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King Vidiot posted:do they have to go to the rights holders and pay out the nose for exhibit fees? If it’s anything other than private exhibition, which opening it up for the public to watch would definitely NOT be, then it’s this.
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:18 |
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Only handicap I’d have with video histories would be that I rarely keep multiple editions. Though, I did find that I can get three editions of Lawrence of Arabia on laserdisc (both Criterion editions and pre-restoration), a few vhs and Betamax versions, and all three dvd editions for about $50 shipped total from eBay. But I don’t have a laserdisc or vhs player anymore.
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:23 |
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King Vidiot posted:How "legal" is that, I mean if a small movie house just straight-up shows their own personal collection of movies on 35mm or digital files or whatever? Can they charge admission, do they need permits, do they have to go to the rights holders and pay out the nose for exhibit fees? Or can they do it in some kinda legal gray area where they sell refreshments to make money but admission is free? I mentioned it in an edit to my post, but Spectacle theater here in NYC does a thorough job in getting the rights to screen even the weirdest and most obscure films, often dogging tiny distribution companies across the world and getting the first ever legal exhibition rights for any given film. Everything they show is legal. Videology (now closed) just flagrantly did not bother, despite also showing the occasional (legal) current release. Film Noir is slightly more mainstream in its programming, and has releases like Her Smell and Climax on their calendar which they'd definitely have legal rights for, and I'd guess they've secured rights for their upcoming Troma film slate as well, but they also play the occasional mainstream release which I could see them just trying to fly under the radar about. But also looking at their upcoming slate it's a lot less mainstream than I've seen before, so I could see them having shifted their programming to fully legal exhibition. Then there's Sydicated which is showing Apollo 11 and The Fifth Element today but is a pretty legit seeming place so feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 1, 2019 |
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Egbert Souse posted:Only handicap I’d have with video histories would be that I rarely keep multiple editions. Though, I did find that I can get three editions of Lawrence of Arabia on laserdisc (both Criterion editions and pre-restoration), a few vhs and Betamax versions, and all three dvd editions for about $50 shipped total from eBay. But I don’t have a laserdisc or vhs player anymore. I have a small pile of laserdiscs that includes ET and all three BTTFs that I'll definitely never watch again, but gently caress ever getting rid of them
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TheScott2K posted:I have a small pile of laserdiscs that includes ET and all three BTTFs that I'll definitely never watch again, but gently caress ever getting rid of them And Techmoan already did a good comparison for BTTF including MUSE laserdisc. I see why these guys use Patreon...
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:27 |
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Egbert Souse posted:Only handicap I’d have with video histories would be that I rarely keep multiple editions. Though, I did find that I can get three editions of Lawrence of Arabia on laserdisc (both Criterion editions and pre-restoration), a few vhs and Betamax versions, and all three dvd editions for about $50 shipped total from eBay. But I don’t have a laserdisc or vhs player anymore. I only have a handfull of double-dips so far, most of them are DVD to UHD, and when Army of Darkness gets a UHD, that'll be my first triple dip. Really the only reason I haven't unloaded most of my older editions are because I haven't really considered how yet.
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Alright so a minicinema then is basically just like a regular cinema except maybe instead of even being as big as a one-screener it could be a hole-in-the-wall building with folding chairs and a roll-up projection screen. Would still be a cool thing to open, there are a few empty lots/buildings in my little town that'd make good indie movie houses. The problem would be an audience, like we've got a college town nearby but otherwise we're not very cultured around here. I'd probably get hounded with people asking why we don't show Marvel movies, "I thought this was a real movie theater!" etc.
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:28 |
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I didn't really have the money to start collecting movies until Blu-ray was well established. So far the only thing I've double dipped on is Blade Runner where I went from the multi version DVD set to the 4K collector's edition. I'll probably get the Ghostbusters I & II set when it comes out next month. Did they ever fix that Creature From the Black Lagoon set? Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 16:34 on May 1, 2019 |
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Iron Crowned posted:I only have a handfull of double-dips so far, most of them are DVD to UHD, and when Army of Darkness gets a UHD, that'll be my first triple dip. Really the only reason I haven't unloaded most of my older editions are because I haven't really considered how yet. I have The Fifth Element on DVD, Bluray, the remaster Bluray, and may one day buy it on UHD if it's cheap enough. Quadruple dip. Supergreen.
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# ? May 1, 2019 16:42 |
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King Vidiot posted:Alright so a minicinema then is basically just like a regular cinema except maybe instead of even being as big as a one-screener it could be a hole-in-the-wall building with folding chairs and a roll-up projection screen. If you start a microcinema you should really just call it Vidiots. But if you're doing a shadier microcinema, you don't really have to worry much about audience—it's cooler if you're the only one in the theater, anyway. Just show some weirdo movies and advertise it at the library and a nice group of buffs will find it. I'm sure there are tons of illegal microcinemas all over the country, though. I know NYC has a few, but most are so niche and underground that even I don't know about them. I know somewhere in the city does regular kung-fu movies (though Spectacle has a surprise Sunday matinee kung-fu, too) but I'm not legit enough to know where.
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feedmyleg posted:I'm sure there are tons of illegal microcinemas all over the country, though. I know NYC has a few, but most are so niche and underground that even I don't know about them. I know somewhere in the city does regular kung-fu movies (though Spectacle has a surprise Sunday matinee kung-fu, too) but I'm not legit enough to know where. NYC just becomes more and more fascinating the more I learn about it. I recently learned that there are a lot of pirate radio stations there.
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Casimir Radon posted:I didn't really have the money to start collecting movies until Blu-ray was well established. So far the only thing I've double dipped on is Blade Runner where I went from the multi version DVD set to the 4K collector's edition. I'll probably get the Ghostbusters I & II set when it comes out next month. Yea that's what happened with me, I was either a student and/or not able to find full-time work from like 2004-2010 so I really wasn't collecting anything during that time. I owned a few movies, like Alien, Ghostbusters, Blade Runner, Die Hard, and those ended up being my only triple-dips because I've owned(or will, in the case of Ghostbusters) them in all three formats(DVD, Blu, UHD). UHD has been nice for me because there's been plenty of releases that I had never owned in any format before, so I had no hesitation in buying those. Like the Mission Impossible series, for example, or the Matrix trilogy. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 17:08 on May 1, 2019 |
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Egbert Souse posted:Would anyone here be interested in videos like this? I’ve been toying with doing that sort of style except for home media. Like whenever the UHD of Lawrence of Arabia comes out, do a piece on the various video editions over the years. Or just individual looks at overlooked releases. That would be cool. It would be like Digital Foundry but for cinema. Digital Foundry does technical analysis of video games and does side by side comparisons between different ports/remakes. https://youtu.be/8KR3WEUMru8 https://youtu.be/faMkcZ6z1Ww Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 17:17 on May 1, 2019 |
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King Vidiot posted:Alright so a minicinema then is basically just like a regular cinema except maybe instead of even being as big as a one-screener it could be a hole-in-the-wall building with folding chairs and a roll-up projection screen. There's a couple of collectives in Los Angeles that does this, most notably the Echo Park Film Center. http://www.echoparkfilmcenter.org/
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Egbert Souse posted:Would anyone here be interested in videos like this? I’ve been toying with doing that sort of style except for home media. Like whenever the UHD of Lawrence of Arabia comes out, do a piece on the various video editions over the years. Or just individual looks at overlooked releases.
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# ? May 1, 2019 17:44 |
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roffels posted:Apparently we both support the same local micro cinema. I caught Brazil and Blade Runner, and wish I would have made it to more in the series. Nice! Yeah, the Trylon rules. I wanted to do every movie, it would have been 4 bucks more after the discount but I didn’t want to deal with the obligation of time and money for candy/popcorn. I think they do alright numbers. The Hidden last night has 30 something people. For an obscure 80s movie on a Tuesday night, I thought that was pretty good. I’d be interested to know if there has been an increase in attendance over the last year. I tell everyone I can about it.
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# ? May 1, 2019 19:24 |
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Is there parking over by the Trylon or is it better to just do public transport?
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roffels posted:Apparently we both support the same local micro cinema. I caught Brazil and Blade Runner, and wish I would have made it to more in the series. They had one of these in Providence that closed last year which loving sucked. It had been around since the 70s and I guess the cost of operating in that building was eventually too expensive. They occasionally showed repertory films but mainly their programming was current indie films and foreign movies. It was a great venue because the movies they showed were often things you couldn't see anywhere else or were otherwise playing in other cities that are a pain in the rear end to deal with. The atmosphere was great too. It was a cafe in front and the screening room had couches in it. I saw a lot of really good poo poo there. My favorite experience was probably when I saw Rubber and counting my friend and myself there were four people in the theater. It was a huge loss. Egbert Souse posted:Would anyone here be interested in videos like this? Ive been toying with doing that sort of style except for home media. Like whenever the UHD of Lawrence of Arabia comes out, do a piece on the various video editions over the years. Or just individual looks at overlooked releases. I certainly would. King Vidiot posted:Alright so a minicinema then is basically just like a regular cinema except maybe instead of even being as big as a one-screener it could be a hole-in-the-wall building with folding chairs and a roll-up projection screen. Those people are losers. Also I've known a few theaters to show things without the proper rights or whatever and the loop hole they use is that they don't explicitly advertise what the movie is either by calling it a "secret screening" where they just tell you the day and time or instead of the title they give you some kind of hint as to what it is which is fairly obvious. One time I saw one advertised and the hint was something like "Power tool killing but with Dennis Hopper.". That said, I'm not a copyright lawyer so I'm not sure how this holds up but the places I know have done this are well established theaters that have been around for decades.
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CPL593H posted:That said, I'm not a copyright lawyer so I'm not sure how this holds up but the places I know have done this are well established theaters that have been around for decades. That doesn't make it legal, but by doing that, they basically remove any chance of the rights owner finding out about it and doing anything.
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Man, all this talk reminds me of when a friend and I used to run a microcinema group at UC Davis in the mid-2000s where every Friday or Saturday night, we would break into one of the big lecture halls, usually Wellman or Olson Halls, and screen movies. A few of the films we screened were: Man Bites Dog Yi Yi The Pornographers The Day I Became a Woman Last House on the Left The Beyond Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control Those were the few I remembered off the top of my head. I really miss those days.
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# ? May 1, 2019 21:26 |
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Sounds like it's time to break in again!
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feedmyleg posted:Sounds like it's time to break in again! I don't live in Davis anymore unfortunately. I live in LA near-ish to the aforementioned Echo Park Film Center. I should drop by there sometime.
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Man, I live in a fairly big city but we don't have anything like that that I know of. We just have a bunch of theater bars that sometimes play niche stuff.
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feedmyleg posted:If you start a microcinema you should really just call it Vidiots. But if you're doing a shadier microcinema, you don't really have to worry much about audience—it's cooler if you're the only one in the theater, anyway. Just show some weirdo movies and advertise it at the library and a nice group of buffs will find it. There was a Vidiots in the westside of Los Angeles, but it was a video rental store that would do small screenings in the back room. They closed their doors in 2017 but are planning to re-open as a film preservation society. https://www.thecorsaironline.com/corsair/uncategorized/2017/03/13/vidiots-says-goodbye-santa-monica https://vidiotsfoundation.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSeEqkHWqrk
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Casimir Radon posted:Is there parking over by the Trylon or is it better to just do public transport? OK street parking. A 5 car lot for Peace Coffee, I use it when it’s a screening right before Peace closes or if it’s closed already. But right off Minnehaha, so the 7? line is right there. May is a Coen Bros. film fest in partnership w the Riverview and Heights theaters. I’m thinking about taking my GF to Lebowski at the Heights, and I’m def gonna see A Serious Man at the Trylon. I’ve never seen it before and I’ve heard it’s really underrated. Oh, and I watched the Alien UHD on Saturday and it was amazing. Just jaw dropping. I can’t wait to see some of the big hitters like Lawrence of Arabia in the format.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:That doesn't make it legal, but by doing that, they basically remove any chance of the rights owner finding out about it and doing anything. I figured as much, but I also assume that studios care a lot less about people showing poo poo like Don't Go into the House than they would about something like The Little Mermaid or whatever.
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Boywhiz88 posted:OK street parking. A 5 car lot for Peace Coffee, I use it when it’s a screening right before Peace closes or if it’s closed already. But right off Minnehaha, so the 7? line is right there. It's also not too far from the light rail on lake st if you don't mind a short walk.
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I am heading to Texas Frightmare this weekend and hoping to hit up the Vinegar Syndrome booth and Severin booth. I own 3 VS discs (Raw Force, The Undertaker, Slaughterhouse) and I like 2 of them (RF, Undertaker) what would people recommend I check out? What are the Severin releases to check out?
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Harry Privates posted:I am heading to Texas Frightmare this weekend and hoping to hit up the Vinegar Syndrome booth and Severin booth. For Vinegar Syndrome, you can’t go wrong with Christmas Evil, Body Melt, Dolemite, and Disco Godfather.
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Harry Privates posted:I am heading to Texas Frightmare this weekend and hoping to hit up the Vinegar Syndrome booth and Severin booth. For VS, I enjoyed Mausoleum, Def by Temptation, Jack Frost, Christmas Evil, and Deathrow Gameshow Severin's got a lot of really great stuff, my favorites are The Changeling, All the Colors of the Dark, and Burial Ground (ok it's kind of bad but so bafflingly weird it's worth seeing). The Devil's Rain is a neat movie but I haven't seen their release of it... Psychomania is cool but DVD-only I believe.
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Harry Privates posted:I own 3 VS discs (Raw Force, The Undertaker, Slaughterhouse) and I like 2 of them (RF, Undertaker) what would people recommend I check out? Really depends on what you're looking for. As the guy who just pays them a lump sum to send me everything, I have a hard time picking anything, but I don't think you could go wrong with any of these: - Luther the Geek - Petey Wheatstraw - Don't Answer the Phone - Psycho Cop Returns - Psychos in Love - Star Time - Blue Vengeance - House of the Dead (AKA Alien Zone) - Def by Temptation - Uninvited Lets see, if I were to only pick one from that list, it would be Blue Vengeance. It's pretty impressively done considering it was done entirely without a permit. If you only buy one though, I'll definitely second Christmas Evil.
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It seems Christmas Evil is the must grab based on responses.
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Harry Privates posted:It seems Christmas Evil is the must grab based on responses. It's way more unique and interesting than the name indicates. It's almost like a Christmas themed Taxi Driver.
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Iron Crowned posted:NYC just becomes more and more fascinating the more I learn about it. I recently learned that there are a lot of pirate radio stations there. The FCC allows you to run a radio station with no licensing of airwaves needed as long as you're below an absurdly low wattage, like 250 watts. At that power level, your reach is only 4-5 blocks at most. Normally this would mean only severe enthusiasts even bother, but when 4-5 blocks can mean a quarter-million people, like in New York City, the incentives get a lot higher.
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i'll second Christmas Evil but I'm surprised nobody mentioned Liquid Sky, that movie is something else
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Yeah I need to buy Liquid Sky eventually and give it a rewatch. It didn't stick with me somehow when I saw it X years ago, but then I see gifs and pictures from it and it's so gorgeous and weird and I need to watch it. Again, for the first time. Also I'll keep recommending There's Nothing Out There until more people buy and watch it.
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Thanks all! I grabbed Mausoleum, Christmas Evil, and Blood Harvest from VS. Might stop and grab stuff from Severin and Arrow, the Arrow booth has Waterworld for $25 which is tempting.
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I'm selling a bunch of physical media, including a rare Grindhouse copy of Duke Mitchell's Gone With the Pope which appears to have been out of print for years. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3888830 Figure someone here must be interested in it.
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