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Hasselblad posted:Holy poo poo. I have never watched any of the show, but I may go back and watch all of this guy's videos. He can be pretty great sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnyseAZ4xU8&t=980s
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May 2, 2019 00:38
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Preston's theories are nuts, but he's a cool dude(tm) and I love his show related stuff, especially the recaps since he mostly just judges the show on the show itself and its own dumbass inconsistencies. The gimmick can be a bit annoying but Preston owns
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May 2, 2019 00:44
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Savage af. What was Jojen and Meeras dad’s name? The bad rear end shortman who knows who Jon’s parents are? I can’t remember, but he’s going to be awesome when he arrives in the books!
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May 2, 2019 00:48
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chaosapiant posted:Savage af. Howland.
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May 2, 2019 00:50
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Howland Reed
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May 2, 2019 00:51
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ive never decided whether it would be cooler if howland killed arthur dayne with magic or with secret bog-irish ninja abilities
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May 2, 2019 00:52
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PupsOfWar posted:ive never decided whether it would be cooler if howland killed arthur dayne with magic or with secret bog-irish ninja abilities I picture more of a Florida Man type mishap.
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May 2, 2019 00:55
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I hope he threw a net on him while he was distracted by Ned and shanked him dishonourably
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May 2, 2019 00:59
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I know this isn't new info, but I'm doing the rewatch and Tywin and Arya are at Harrenhall and Jesus tittyfucking Christ Charles Dance is just the greatest thing on earth. e: also I completely forgot about weird skinny Mountain and the prissy bitch that corrects the pronunciation of Qarth
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May 2, 2019 01:11
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Isn't the Stark line more or less eradicated in the show at this point? Bran is the only one who can keep the name going and that seems... unlikely. It doesn't seem much better in the books but I don't remember if there are random Starks out there like there seem to be with Lannisters.
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May 2, 2019 01:17
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i am the bird posted:Isn't the Stark line more or less eradicated in the show at this point? Bran is the only one who can keep the name going and that seems... unlikely. Bran is the last. Cat was promised to Ned's older brother who died and Benjen got cold-handed, so Cat bore the only Starks with Ned and they all got murked.
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May 2, 2019 01:27
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Mike N Eich posted:Sansa slowly poisons her cousin. etc.
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May 2, 2019 01:33
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So Jons not counted at all because he's a Targ son?
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May 2, 2019 01:38
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Intel&Sebastian posted:So Jons not counted at all because he's a Targ son? By birth and by law he is Aegon Targaryen with no claim to the Stark name or lands or titles. e: UNLESS he never reveals that and the Queen/king name him Stark then he's a Stark by law and oh no that's what he's going to do so the mad Yass Kween gets all her boss lady memes from idiots The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 01:42 on May 2, 2019 |
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May 2, 2019 01:39
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kcroy posted:wait wut Sansa very clearly despises Sweetrobin and there's speculation that she, LF, or both are purposefully dosing him with more sweetsleep than he needs to slowly kill him off, so LF can instead marry Sansa to Harry the Heir and have her take the Vale that way.
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May 2, 2019 01:40
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Intel&Sebastian posted:So Jons not counted at all because he's a Targ son? Even if he's not a Targ, he doesn't have claim to the Stark name either unless Robb legitimized him.
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May 2, 2019 01:41
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:By birth and by law he is Aegon Targaryen with no claim to the Stark name or lands or titles. And even if he wasn't a Targ by law, he would still be a bastard Sand or Snow unless a King or Queen names him Stark. iirc Robb was planning to do so before he died, and I believe Stannis also uses the idea of legitimizing him and appointing him Warden of the North as leverage when trying to get Jon to bend the knee. e: or Waters, I can't remember if bastard naming conventions are by where the bastard was born or who their father was.
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May 2, 2019 01:42
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i am the bird posted:Isn't the Stark line more or less eradicated in the show at this point? Bran is the only one who can keep the name going and that seems... unlikely. One of the themes has been all the men dying and the women, being the only survivors, taking over and making the rules. I could see Sansa just going "I'm making my husband keep the Stark name and my children will be Starks" and everybody just nodding and going along with it
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May 2, 2019 01:43
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i am the bird posted:Isn't the Stark line more or less eradicated in the show at this point? Bran is the only one who can keep the name going and that seems... unlikely. in the show this is correct, yes if we're talking book continuity, there's a few branches of the Stark family tree a couple generations back that sorta peter out possibly those Starks died without issue, though I've seen occasional fanfic interpretations where they're elderly childless Stark relatives moldering in various remote keeps if the main Starks had any northern cousins through those branches, though, they would presumably have been brought up when Robb and Cat were discussing the succession rather than going all the way over to Robb's distant relations (I think second cousins once-removed or first cousins twice-removed or something) in the Vale, as Cat does. there's the Karstarks, but cadet branches don't necessarily figure into things if other houses have married in more recently (for instance, the Gulltown Arryns don't seem to figure in to the Arryns' current succession problem) PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 01:48 on May 2, 2019 |
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May 2, 2019 01:45
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esperterra posted:And even if he wasn't a Targ by law, he would still be a bastard Sand or Snow unless a King or Queen names him Stark. iirc Robb was planning to do so before he died, and I believe Stannis also uses the idea of legitimizing him and appointing him Warden of the North as leverage when trying to get Jon to bend the knee. By father. Jon Snow was born in Dorne but he "was Ned Stark's son"
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May 2, 2019 01:46
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Intel&Sebastian posted:So Jons not counted at all because he's a Targ son? I dont know why people insist it's all about titty dragons when it's really about dicks and swords and the removal of dicks via sword, metaphorically or otherwise. Like, in the dark medieval setting a kid being crippled and falling out of a window isn't really that horrifying or out of the ordinary, it's the fact that he's a male heir to the Stark name and direct attack by a Lannister. It's not really presented or described like that especially in the show, where Jaime just kind of says "Im sorry I broke youre legs you cant walk now thats sad." Dr. Video Games 0112 fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 2, 2019 |
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May 2, 2019 01:48
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:By father. Right, right. So he would be Jon Waters then. Divine cameo when?? PupsOfWar posted:in the show this is correct, yes Rickon is still very much alive in the books as far as we know.
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May 2, 2019 01:50
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Also, with a queen on the throne they could have matrilineal inheritance where Sansa Stark has a son with Dave Manderly, and Dave will always be a Manderly, but their son can claim Stark with full rights, titles, etc., if they're super concerned about saving the name. But at this point it's pretty obvious the Starks and Lannisters aren't meant to continue on. The Martells, Tyrells, Arryns, Tullys, and Baratheons are all gone. Mormont, Frey, etc. are also gone. The whole break the wheel thing is all the great houses are gone and there's only one kingdom.
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May 2, 2019 01:53
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now, it's implied that Great Houses in westeros aren't allowed to just die out people seem to place national importance on the names and such "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" etc. house extinction scenarios have happened before in the backstory, so we know of various ways of avoiding it 6-8,000 years is a longassed time, it would make sense that all of the major houses have been depopulated at least once, if not lots of times seems like the standard practice when this happens is you find the nearest heir, then, for the sake of tradition, make them take the great house's name either through marriage to a remnant cadet branch or through just legally changing the heir's name the latter is what the Vale regents propose to do with Harry the Heir, the former is what was done the last time the Arryns' succession sitch looked grim emergency female-line succession is also an option, despite westeros's fanatical attachment to absolute male-preference primogeniture this has happened to the starks in fact, in the Bael the Bard story so if bran (and rickon in the books) dies without heirs, the northerners' options are like - northerners adopt the starks' Vale cousins and rename them stark - northerners install the closest Northern stark cousin they can find, and rename them stark - sansa rules in her own name, with her children taking their mother's name rather than their father's as customary PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 2, 2019 |
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May 2, 2019 02:06
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they'll probably resolve the cersei crap next episode and the last three will be about the last fight for the seastone chair
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May 2, 2019 02:07
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The whole break the wheel thing is all the great houses are gone and there's only one kingdom. i think the opposite imo what we're building toward is that the notion of "the 7 kingdoms" as a unified empire or hegemony will go away, and someone will melt down or break the Iron Throne itself
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May 2, 2019 02:10
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like the show will probably end with someone taking the throne but in the posthumously-released gurm notes
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May 2, 2019 02:12
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patchface finally appears
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May 2, 2019 02:13
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he and moon boy sit the iron throne
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May 2, 2019 02:13
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federal syndicates of westeros under glorious iron-chairman varys
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May 2, 2019 02:17
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lmfao I forgot one of my favorite parts of the books that the show couldn't possibly recreate was Jaime becoming utterly obsessed with "...and Moonboy for all I know"
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May 2, 2019 02:24
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:federal syndicates of westeros under glorious iron-chairman varys Then one of the Dragons becomes really smart and takes the throne himself and this is all a prequel to a HBO Shadowrun series
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May 2, 2019 02:25
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davos will do a good job when it is his turn to be the rainwood oblast's rotating representative to the continental collaborative public works council in People's LandingIntel&Sebastian posted:lmfao I forgot one of my favorite parts of the books that the show couldn't possibly recreate was Jaime becoming utterly obsessed with "...and Moonboy for all I know" i do like to think moon boy has gotten laid during all this mess probably not with any of the people that have been accused of loving him but maybe with one of the random tyrell cousins or something
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May 2, 2019 02:26
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Goddamn I would watch the hell out of a Schlocky HBO Shadowrun series
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May 2, 2019 02:26
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PupsOfWar posted:- northerners adopt the starks' Vale cousins and rename them stark Sansa could make up new rules at this point. If we are to believe the show "ends up" at the same place as the books, then Dany unintentionally bringing Dornish ideals to Westeros is a real thing, because by the end in the show we've got a female ruler each key power hold for a Game of Matriarchs. Even Doran was depicted as a useless surrogate to appease Westeros custom and remain part of the 7 kingdoms, to be removed when the time is right. Jon Targaryen is just a monkeywrench in the whole thing by the time we learn his origin, mildly annoying Dany that he would even mention it.
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May 2, 2019 02:28
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Intel&Sebastian posted:lmfao I forgot one of my favorite parts of the books that the show couldn't possibly recreate was Jaime becoming utterly obsessed with "...and Moonboy for all I know" The real sin of them cutting out the Tysha conversation before Tyrion fucks off to kill Tywin
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May 2, 2019 02:29
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all these people complaining the show cut victarion greyjoy or strong belwas when the real crime is that they cut butterbumps
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May 2, 2019 02:31
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And also the battle where they're all yelling "for winterfell!" "for fleabottom!" etc etc and Hot Pie yells "For Hot Pie!"
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