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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Finicums Wake posted:

my life has been similarly derailed by the same mental health problems he has (anxiety leading to panic attacks) and i also had to move back in with my parents, so even when it's sad i find solace in it.

nah, it's me fam

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/nycguidovoice/status/800890348021149697

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/WSWS_Updates/status/1140589549866934272

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
they've gone too far this time

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lmao

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
love to support right-to-work laws for trotsky

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Weird sex web site back at it again

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
never knew that there'd be a moaist subgenre of "angry sunglasses guy ranting in his car"

https://twitter.com/pedanticromantc/status/1140660035493625862?s=21

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
another odd thing is that the beef is apparently over kinks

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

https://twitter.com/twitersgoodboy/status/1140935505065992192?s=21

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1140949002734714880

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/tarenceray/status/1140770560546430976?s=19

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

I'm ded.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1141193890197733376

:jerkbag:

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

quote:

To shed light on all of these questions and more, Jacobin contributor Kevin Lin talked to a range of activists and scholars: Chris Chan, a sociologist at the Chinese University of Hong Kong and a student and labor activist; Lam Chi Leung, a socialist in Hong Kong and a member of Left21; Chun-Wing Lee, a socialist, member of Left 21, and editor of The Owl, a left-wing website in Hong Kong; and Au Loong Yu, a writer and activist. Lin also solicited comments from Alexa, a Hong Kong-based activist, and the Student Labour Action Coalition, a distinctly left-wing group in a place with few of them.

the hong kong federation of trade unions is the biggest labor organization in the city and supported the bill. wonder why jacobin didn't talk to them

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

quote:

Today anyone can be a temporary leader and call for radical actions without weighing the pros and cons. For instance, on June 11, certain small pro-independence localists called for “proportional violence against the government” and for people to break into the legislature and the government headquarters the next day to block the amendment bill from being introduced. Eventually hundreds of youngsters did try to break into the legislature on June 12, despite the fact that by then the legislature hall was empty, as there was no meeting at all. This was also the moment when the police began to fire rubber bullets, causing injuries.

seems really stupid to me! good job guys!

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
One thing I really like is reading this and having them go "there has been a major escalation, as police are now using rubber bullets and tear gas!" and it's like, go live in montreal for a couple years, pretty much every protest gets shut down with major use of those. Funny I never heard the liberal rags use it as justification for the government losing its legitimacy.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
chris chan?



chris chan

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
to be unironic for a moment, every one of those protestorists was prolly organized by chris chan, who is being paid by the us government for being their retard card in the magic: the gathering match against the commies

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

R. Guyovich posted:

the hong kong federation of trade unions is the biggest labor organization in the city and supported the bill. wonder why jacobin didn't talk to them

i mean, the AFL-CIO leadership publicly came out against the green new deal a few months ago. its not like labor unions are the most in step with what the rank and file members want or believe

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

quote:

Last week, HBO’s Chernobyl shot to the top of IMDb’s all-time TV rankings, outperforming other mega-popular hits like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, and various stoner-friendly seasons of Planet Earth. And as of Tuesday, it had a 9.6-star (out of 10) average rating from more than 200,000 users on the Amazon-owned entertainment site. To the knee-jerk press, the limited series’ ascension was evidence of a historic hit. The Economist ran with the numbers, comparing them to traffic spikes on the “Chernobyl nuclear disaster” Wikipedia page, declaring the show “the highest-rated TV series ever,” and marveling at the reach of its subject matter...

The company is predictably secretive about how it determines its scores, but we do know a few things about how its ranking system is designed. The score of a movie does not reflect the mean of all user votes—rather, “various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at vote stuffing by people more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it,” according to the IMDb website. But in its top ranking lists, the platform places more value on the votes of regular users than those of newbies. And a 2017 report in Mel Magazine found that those regular users often skew to an overwhelmingly male international audience between the ages of 18 and 29.

With this information, a pattern emerges. The internet’s go-to movie database is being shaped by a highly specific group of people with highly specific opinions and, quite frankly, a lot of free time. This problem is not unique to IMDb. Reference sites like Wikipedia are still struggling to diversify their voluntary staff which is overwhelmingly made up of white, male editors. Nor is this unique to online communities. The Academy Awards’ lack of diversity in both its voting body and award winners has been a recurring topic of conversation for the past few years. That Chernobyl has flourished under this system is not a surprise: It’s an excellent TV series, but also one that happens to have an all-white, mostly male cast, and a story line that appeals to exactly the kind of regular voters that IMDb prioritizes.

I wonder what kind of group of 18-29 year old males with a ton of free time would all mass vote to give the impression that Chernobyl is the best tv show ever? :thunk:

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I liked Cherynobyl but it quite clearly zigged into ideologically motivated soliloquies from time to time. it wasn’t even specifically historically inauthentic so much as deliberately structured to associate negative bureaucracy and self-serving avarice with Soviet governance which was both unnecessary and disingenuous

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

Frog Act posted:

I liked Cherynobyl but it quite clearly zigged into ideologically motivated soliloquies from time to time. it wasn’t even specifically historically inauthentic so much as deliberately structured to associate negative bureaucracy and self-serving avarice with Soviet governance which was both unnecessary and disingenuous

The last episode is really bad and just packs in the narrative cliches like a squirrel getting ready to hibernate. Even with all the political stuff aside, it falls way short of being "the best show of all time."

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Frog Act posted:

I liked Cherynobyl but it quite clearly zigged into ideologically motivated soliloquies from time to time. it wasn’t even specifically historically inauthentic so much as deliberately structured to associate negative bureaucracy and self-serving avarice with Soviet governance which was both unnecessary and disingenuous

They really tried to play up the kgb as evil and scary but it fell flat. The worst thing the kgb guy did was... fire legasov for whistleblowing. Meanwhile Hillary Clinton suggested drone bombing Julian assange.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The last episode is really bad and just packs in the narrative cliches like a squirrel getting ready to hibernate. Even with all the political stuff aside, it falls way short of being "the best show of all time."

yeah, but I think the first few episodes are noteworthy for the authenticity of their actual stage dressing and the way they actually manifested the disaster onscreen. I’m totally with you that it isn’t even a candidate for the greatest show of all time but I have this feeling that a version of it done with an actual explicit understanding of the Soviet system, it could be

the opportunity to use the medium to describe and tell stories in the context of the USSR and it’s flaws while retaining a basic understanding it was nevertheless the moral alternative to Western liberalism was shamefully squandered here

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


chernobyl was a really, really good show tbh. the few times it did veer a bit too much into political commentary were a bit embarrassing though

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

They really tried to play up the kgb as evil and scary but it fell flat. The worst thing the kgb guy did was... fire legasov for whistleblowing. Meanwhile Hillary Clinton suggested drone bombing Julian assange.

lol yeah they had all these scenes where legasov was being lectured meant to imply the state was a panopticon doling out arbitrary justice, but this was in a state of tension with the objective historical reality that by 1985 the KGB was incredibly unlikely to shoot someone in the back of the head, or even abuse them in a meaningful way

whereas simultaneously the US was cultivating the crack epidemic and an unprecedented revival of urban apartheid under our frothing, fundamentalist lunatic administration

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 23 days!)

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

chernobyl was a really, really good show tbh. the few times it did veer a bit too much into political commentary were a bit embarrassing though

It was a really good show up until it wasn't. All the way up to the climax, which is when Legasov "tells the truth," is when it really falls apart and disappears up its own rear end in a top hat.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
chernoBULL imo

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I tried to find out more about that Hong Kong group

http://left21.hk/

Serf
May 5, 2011


i really liked chernobyl, but i'm a sucker for jared harris and stellan skarsgard

but anytime it tried to criticize the soviet union all i could think was "the usa does the same, if not worse"

it has produced some excellent memes tho

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

a remake of training day but its kgb in 1985 ukraine

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


the worst moment to me was when the nuclear scientist lady poo poo on the party apparatchik for formerly working at a shoe factory or something

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



there was a period both before and after WW2 where the Soviets channeled money into Weimar/West German film to produce Communist propaganda films that had actual narratives. I watched a bunch in a film class I took with an old leftist and they’re exactly the type of films I wish were still being made. they had an explicit, left-wing message while simultaneously being well-made and written films

my favorite example is “Mother Krause’s Journey Into Happiness” about living in the interwar Berlin slums

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Frog Act posted:

there was a period both before and after WW2 where the Soviets channeled money into Weimar/West German film to produce Communist propaganda films that had actual narratives. I watched a bunch in a film class I took with an old leftist and they’re exactly the type of films I wish were still being made. they had an explicit, left-wing message while simultaneously being well-made and written films

my favorite example is “Mother Krause’s Journey Into Happiness” about living in the interwar Berlin slums

Can you direct me to a list of these kinds of films?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

the worst moment to me was when the nuclear scientist lady poo poo on the party apparatchik for formerly working at a shoe factory or something

yeah one of the more noticeable political things outside of the monologues was the contempt baked into Western Liberalism for the Soviet model of social mobility. it reminded me of NYT rhetoric regarding Maduro

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Mr. Lobe posted:

Can you direct me to a list of these kinds of films?

I’ve got my syllabus at home somewhere, I’ve been meaning to pull it out and rewatch the ones I can find (many of them the professor had very old copies or had bought them at considerable expense from specialist archives). I’ll post them when I get home today

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