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Intel&Sebastian posted:Hot take for anyone new coming in here: This is a good idea, I guess, if you want to get mismatched pieces of different stories and have no idea what's going on The TV show is great, IDK what's there to be "annoyed" about
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To me, the main purpose for getting acquainted at all with anything Eva is to gather backstory for watching the fantastic, wonderful End of Evangelion movie. The catch being that no matter what you do to prepare the max amount of understanding you're going to have anyway is like 30% soooooooo I wouldn't blame anyone for going in cold and just enjoying the ride or reading as short of a sum-up as you can and then watching EOE. I think the series is ok, the rebuild movies are better but stop actually being re-makes at some point which is strange, the rest of the canon is very bad, and EOE is extremely super good. esselfortium posted:This is a good idea, I guess, if you want to get mismatched pieces of different stories and have no idea what's going on This is going to happen no matter how faithfully you go through it, so why not just do a whizbang quick version to get to the good stuff asap. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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Jun 21, 2019 19:34
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Hot take for anyone new coming in here: imo if someone is interested in watching evangelion, they should consider watching Evangelion, the show
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Jun 21, 2019 19:38
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just randomly put on any episode from the TV show like you're channel surfing before the internet was a thing
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Jun 21, 2019 19:40
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The Rebuild movies diverge from the original story pretty quickly and heavily change the characterizations. I don't know what to even say to the claim that the TV series is bad and the new movies are great, but the original is a beloved classic for a reason. If you really didn't understand anything from EoE it might be worth going back and rewatching some of that pointless bad stuff.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:40
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Watching two different sources are gonna confuse the poo poo out of people. You might as well just watch the movie itself.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:40
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I also like the TV show more and think the rebuilds are fine but not particularly great, so idk.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:41
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Well that's why it's my hot take. I don't actually think it's necessary to suffer through the entirety of the old, weird, poorly paced, often annoying show to enjoy most of what makes the whole thing great. Now, if you get through like remake 1 and you're like "HOT drat THIS IS MY poo poo!" then by all means go ahead and do it the right way, but if you just want to see some giant robot fighting, get the gist of the rest of it and then watch the insane crazy movie where the good gifs and big white head meme stuff comes from........do it my way and save yourself time.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:41
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Kosume Shezaki posted:What happened with 3.0? I know the official release took forever to come out but was there something else? Basically, either Anno himself or someone high up at Gainax/Khara was in attendance at the US premiere of the 3.0 dub. They were apparently not familiar with how rowdy Americans can get in movie theaters, especially nerds at a nerd dedicated showing, so when the audience had crowd reactions to various scenes (including bursting into laughter at the piano sequence) it spooked the hell out of them. this, coupled with disagreement on some of the artistic licenses taken with the localization, caused Gainax to immediately demand that 3.0 be completely redubbed with a new script.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Well that's why it's my hot take. I don't actually think it's necessary to suffer through the entirety of the old, weird, poorly paced, often annoying show to enjoy most of what makes the whole thing great. just cause its a hot take doesn't mean you just get to spout nonsense
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Jun 21, 2019 19:43
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I watched the show for the first time this year. It was good. EoE was also good. There's no need whatsoever to have newcomers watch any sort of remade version for no reason, when the original is right there, in all of its glorious illegal bluray form.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:44
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Hot take for anyone new coming in here: this sounds absolutely terrible. There is only one way to watch this show and its NGE, Death & Rebirth, EoE, and then the rebuild movies
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Jun 21, 2019 19:48
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Basically, either Anno himself or someone high up at Gainax/Khara was in attendance at the US premiere of the 3.0 dub. They were apparently not familiar with how rowdy Americans can get in movie theaters, especially nerds at a nerd dedicated showing, so when the audience had crowd reactions to various scenes (including bursting into laughter at the piano sequence) it spooked the hell out of them. this, coupled with disagreement on some of the artistic licenses taken with the localization, caused Gainax to immediately demand that 3.0 be completely redubbed with a new script. holy god lmao poor Anno, or whoever it was but uh this is much worse than a rowdy theater. I just watched the first episode and oof.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:51
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The complaints are all completely legitimate and I agree with them... But drat, just scrubbing through EoE and rewatching my favorite scenes again (the last like, 10 minutes or so once that beautiful violin solo piece comes on / Asuka's amazing Eva fight) is so satisfying. The movie's a masterpiece. (Subbed, of course)
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Jun 21, 2019 19:51
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Well that's why it's my hot take. I don't actually think it's necessary to suffer through the entirety of the old, weird, poorly paced, often annoying show to enjoy most of what makes the whole thing great. LMAO this is super dumb. If all you care about as a viewer is "lol look how craaazy this is" without any context or need to appreciate the rest of it, just watch some EoE clips on youtube and save yourself the trouble.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:52
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CharlestheHammer posted:Watching two different sources are gonna confuse the poo poo out of people. I agree 100%, the movie is great and if you just want to watch a really good crazy movie with great visuals, don't be afraid that you NEEEEED to watch 14 hours of tv anime to enjoy it. It helps, but like.....not that much. esselfortium posted:The Rebuild movies diverge from the original story pretty quickly and heavily change the characterizations. The TV series isn't bad, it's pretty good, and if you're the kind of person who's watching days-worth of anime anyway then you should absolutely watch it. I've gone through it plenty of times already and I understand EOE just fine. That's exactly why I don't feel bad telling someone who doesn't want to watch 14 hours of anime that it's totally fine to just read a series sum-up or watch the Rebuilds to get the general idea and then watch the cool rear end movie where most of the good stuff happens anyway.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:52
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Basically, either Anno himself or someone high up at Gainax/Khara was in attendance at the US premiere of the 3.0 dub. They were apparently not familiar with how rowdy Americans can get in movie theaters, especially nerds at a nerd dedicated showing, so when the audience had crowd reactions to various scenes (including bursting into laughter at the piano sequence) it spooked the hell out of them. this, coupled with disagreement on some of the artistic licenses taken with the localization, caused Gainax to immediately demand that 3.0 be completely redubbed with a new script. Thank you for sharing. That is definitely a thing.
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The correct order is Nadia TV series > GunBuster > Kare Kano > Ideon: Be Invoked.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:52
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:LMAO this is super dumb. If all you care about as a viewer is "lol look how craaazy this is" without any context or need to appreciate the rest of it, just watch some EoE clips on youtube and save yourself the trouble. This is also ok, but I'd still recommend watching the entire movie if that's your thing. idk, this is just me. I'm sure most people in the thread for the anime will be absolute aghast at the idea of not watching every single bit of it but my opinion is that it's not necessary if you want to save yourself 10 hours and still enjoy the vast majority of what most people enjoy about Eva.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Basically, either Anno himself or someone high up at Gainax/Khara was in attendance at the US premiere of the 3.0 dub. They were apparently not familiar with how rowdy Americans can get in movie theaters, especially nerds at a nerd dedicated showing, so when the audience had crowd reactions to various scenes (including bursting into laughter at the piano sequence) it spooked the hell out of them. this, coupled with disagreement on some of the artistic licenses taken with the localization, caused Gainax to immediately demand that 3.0 be completely redubbed with a new script. This sounds made up
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evangelion is good, i like itIntel&Sebastian posted:To me, the main purpose for getting acquainted at all with anything Eva is to gather backstory for watching the fantastic, wonderful End of Evangelion movie. the show is barely ten hours, most people who watch western dramas dont flinch at what is basically 13 forty-eight minute episodes. it's not this big life altering commitment RME posted:imo if someone is interested in watching evangelion, they should consider watching Evangelion, the show
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Jun 21, 2019 19:58
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Music licensing is famously weird and that seems to be related to what happened to Fly Me to the Moon here https://twitter.com/Mendinso/status/1142136872501727232?s=19 https://www.thewrap.com/why-netflix...impression=true Outside of Eva I don't have any particular fondness for it, but boy is it ever stuck in my head now.
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In Training posted:This sounds made up I was at the dub premiere in Baltimore at otakon, and while it almost certainly wasn't Anno himself that was there and had a bad reaction, the part about the audience being extremely rowdy is absolutely true and its also true that the home release dub is not the same one I saw in that showing.
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Jun 21, 2019 20:01
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Is ep 16 any better looking
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Jun 21, 2019 20:02
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Who cares about thematic, character or narrative coherence anyway, just read a wiki summary and watch Top 10 WTF Scenes in Evangelion. Surely, this is what most people enjoy about Eva.
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Jun 21, 2019 20:03
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Evangelion the TV series is about 8 hours long, but it’ll educate and entertain you more than any other 8 hour movie I know
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Who cares about thematic, character or narrative coherence anyway, just read a wiki summary and watch Top 10 WTF Scenes in Evangelion. Surely, this is what most people enjoy about Eva. it almost feels like people have actually internalized this idea that Eva is an Important Show That You Need To See without actually liking it which, i mean, good for Eva on winning such a massive cultural victory  but i am a little wistful for an alternate universe where it happened to Revolutionary Girl Utena instead
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Jun 21, 2019 20:07
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:it almost feels like people have actually internalized this idea that Eva is an Important Show That You Need To See without actually liking it Extremely same. The fact that this thread is this old and long while any thread about Ikuhara stuff struggles to get past 5 pages makes me frustrated beyond any rational level.
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Expect My Mom posted:evangelion is good, i like it People who watch 10 hours of Western Dramas are watching 10 hours of Western Dramas, not questionably translated 1990's Japanese animated tv shows with a bunch of Japan specific oddities and problematic sexual bits peppered in. There's a definite difference. I loooooove Eva, I love the little weird things that come along with the bad translations and poo poo that isn't my culture. If I think someone is like me who will love the whole thing, I would tell them to watch the whole thing. Most people? And me 8/10 times I feel like re-watching Eva stuff? Go with the rebuilds and whatever gets you up to date enough to enjoy EOE.
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Who cares about thematic, character or narrative coherence anyway, just read a wiki summary and watch Top 10 WTF Scenes in Evangelion. Surely, this is what most people enjoy about Eva. Most people who aren't posting about it online, yeah.
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a kitten posted:Music licensing is famously weird and that seems to be related to what happened to Fly Me to the Moon here this is some actual bullshit. They have all the money in the loving world.
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Jun 21, 2019 20:13
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Pretty sure Anno and Khara have no control over international licensing or anything with the Evangelion TV series so if you want to look at someone for the weird changes look at Gainax or Gaina or whatever the gently caress it is now
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The REAL Goobusters posted:this is some actual bullshit. They have all the money in the loving world. They literally threw so much money at the license that funimation basically said they were cheating, if money was the reason why then it was almost certainly some suit balking at it.
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idk, I'm just not as precious about the whole thing as most people here. It's been 20 years, anyone who hasn't been arsed into pirating Eva by now probably isn't THAT interested in seeing it. I'm thrilled for anyone new who's going through the entire thing and is excited for it but like lol, this netflix thing is mostly for us, people who've already seen it. That's why the prevailing conversation everywhere online about it is "WTF have you done to my baby!??!!" and not episode/theme discussions (disclaimer: I don't have Netflix, just the old dvd collection that had a silver box or whatever and some ripped copy that seems to be the same as those) Blockhouse posted:Pretty sure Anno and Khara have no control over international licensing or anything with the Evangelion TV series so if you want to look at someone for the weird changes look at Gainax or Gaina or whatever the gently caress it is now They're talking about the latest rebuild movie though
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If someone doesn't want to watch Evangelion I think they should just not watch Evangelion.
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Blockhouse posted:Pretty sure Anno and Khara have no control over international licensing or anything with the Evangelion TV series so if you want to look at someone for the weird changes look at Gainax or Gaina or whatever the gently caress it is now
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:They literally threw so much money at the license that funimation basically said they were cheating, if money was the reason why then it was almost certainly some suit balking at it. they just want to cut corners. and be the sole owners of their dub/sub. And they did a pretty poo poo job at it. Thank god I still have a way to watch the real eva
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Intel&Sebastian posted:People who watch 10 hours of Western Dramas are watching 10 hours of Western Dramas, not questionably translated 1990's Japanese animated tv shows with a bunch of Japan specific oddities and problematic sexual bits peppered in. There's a definite difference. Sure. But if you think these people are not predisposed to enjoying Eva because it's old and weird, why would you possibly recommend them EoE? My previous contextless youtube clips suggestion would unironically be far better for that purpose than this utterly bizzare "watch a bunch of newer movies purely so you can go back to this old and weird movie" plan. AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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I really can't get angry at them not wanting to spend money for something their own website skips over after twenty secondsIntel&Sebastian posted:People who watch 10 hours of Western Dramas are watching 10 hours of Western Dramas, not questionably translated 1990's Japanese animated tv shows with a bunch of Japan specific oddities and problematic sexual bits peppered in. There's a definite difference. It feels like someone is trying to show someone Twin Peaks and they're like 'Just skip all of Season 2" no, gently caress that man! That's what that show is, it's James living in a woman's attic and a weird Civil War subplot, don't try to cover it up
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Quite is not edit AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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