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Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


What’s wrong with my table guys? They don’t usually have cracks down the middle?




Not my design, and christ don’t ever decide to build a 24’ long table.

It has a built up faux-live edge because I’m #1 knock-off shop (and the 4’ wide, 12’ long 16/4 walnut slabs they originally wanted are a pipe dream and the table would have weighed 2500lb) I got an Arbortech thing for my angle grinder to do the not-live edge and holy poo poo that thing is amazing. Way less terrifying to use than I thought and it will hog off some hard splintery sapele in a hurry and leaves a surprisingly nice surface.

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SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
That's cool. Are you putting epoxy in the middle to make a... river... pond... table?

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
You're gonna need one hell of a butterfly joint to fix that split.

Nice work dude. Share more pics when it has finish applied?

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

SouthShoreSamurai posted:

That's cool. Are you putting epoxy in the middle to make a... river... pond... table?

thats a conference table so that hole will have all the wires hanging down and a conference phone balanced over the opening.


Do you have pics of the underside? Is it all 16/4 boards or did you edge band it with less in the center? Also your belt sander looks like a palm sander in that picture :ohdear:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

What’s wrong with my table guys? They don’t usually have cracks down the middle?




Not my design, and christ don’t ever decide to build a 24’ long table.

It has a built up faux-live edge because I’m #1 knock-off shop (and the 4’ wide, 12’ long 16/4 walnut slabs they originally wanted are a pipe dream and the table would have weighed 2500lb) I got an Arbortech thing for my angle grinder to do the not-live edge and holy poo poo that thing is amazing. Way less terrifying to use than I thought and it will hog off some hard splintery sapele in a hurry and leaves a surprisingly nice surface.

This is not on you because this is their taste at work, but I fuckin' hate fake poo poo. Also epoxy river live edge bullshit but mostly fake poo poo.

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

What’s wrong with my table guys? They don’t usually have cracks down the middle?




Not my design, and christ don’t ever decide to build a 24’ long table.

It has a built up faux-live edge because I’m #1 knock-off shop (and the 4’ wide, 12’ long 16/4 walnut slabs they originally wanted are a pipe dream and the table would have weighed 2500lb) I got an Arbortech thing for my angle grinder to do the not-live edge and holy poo poo that thing is amazing. Way less terrifying to use than I thought and it will hog off some hard splintery sapele in a hurry and leaves a surprisingly nice surface.

I think you ruined it by not putting on hairpin legs.

Good work, I couldn't imagine building something that long, hurts my back just thinking about it.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


JEEVES420 posted:

thats a conference table so that hole will have all the wires hanging down and a conference phone balanced over the opening.


Do you have pics of the underside? Is it all 16/4 boards or did you edge band it with less in the center? Also your belt sander looks like a palm sander in that picture :ohdear:
It's built up smoke and mirrors. The solid top is like 5/8" thick with 3"x 1.75" aprons/banding glued underneath, and then baltic birch strips screwed to that to stiffen it all up. It's got to go up stairs and I'm a 1.2 person shop so keeping the weight down has been a priority. If it was solid 16/4, each of the 4 top sections would weigh 500-600#. I thought about veneering the top and building a torsion box (and in hindsight, I should have made the plywood framing narrower to accommodate a sheet of plywood flush with the bottom of the aprons to make a torsion box and stiffen it up) but it is plenty stiff as is, and 12' length makes veneering over sheet goods complicated and I couldn't figure out how to make the not-live edge look somewhat natural.



I'm a bit worried about the plywood battens screwed crossgrain, but it's been like 104+F and 30% humidity in the shop for a few weeks and haven't had any splitting or anything. Presumably the air conditioned building it's going in will be more humid, and I've only ever really had wood movement problems from shrinkage, not growth.

I hadn't noticed my tiny sander, but you're right. That's a 16' tape stretched out too-when my buddy helped me actually put it all together the other day we just laughed at how insanely, stupidly huge it is. Pictures really don't capture the size.


TooMuchAbstraction posted:

You're gonna need one hell of a butterfly joint to fix that split.

Nice work dude. Share more pics when it has finish applied?
It's gonna be a super dark color I'm not wild about, but dark hides a bunch of sins, so that's fine with me too.



Jaded Burnout posted:

This is not on you because this is their taste at work, but I fuckin' hate fake poo poo. Also epoxy river live edge bullshit but mostly fake poo poo.
I'm with you completely. I'm not wild about live edge stuff for the most part anyway, but at least the cool part is that it's the natural live edge? This is 200bf of sapele boards glued together with the grain matching as best I could (some of them did actually definitely come out of the same tree and are by luck bookmatched) and then I cut some parts off so it looks 'natural.' The first quote they got from someone for this with real live edge walnut was close to $40k, and they decided they could be happy with some changes and get the look for less. For the same price, I could have built a classical, timeless table that didn't look like a 20' long vagina and wouldn't look like fin de siecle industrial minimalism c. 201X in 10 years, but I always think any idea the person writing the checks has is a fabulous idea so

Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jul 3, 2019

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

What’s wrong with my table guys? They don’t usually have cracks down the middle?




Not my design, and christ don’t ever decide to build a 24’ long table.

It has a built up faux-live edge because I’m #1 knock-off shop (and the 4’ wide, 12’ long 16/4 walnut slabs they originally wanted are a pipe dream and the table would have weighed 2500lb) I got an Arbortech thing for my angle grinder to do the not-live edge and holy poo poo that thing is amazing. Way less terrifying to use than I thought and it will hog off some hard splintery sapele in a hurry and leaves a surprisingly nice surface.

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive

Meow Meow Meow posted:

I think you ruined it by not putting on hairpin legs.

Good work, I couldn't imagine building something that long, hurts my back just thinking about it.

i hate hairpin legs. i will hate them as long as i live. i will never forgive them

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010

Ambrose Burnside posted:

i hate hairpin legs. i will hate them as long as i live. i will never forgive them

It's a woodworking thread, we all hate them.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Ambrose Burnside posted:

i hate hairpin legs. i will hate them as long as i live. i will never forgive them
The original design for this actually called for giant steel U shaped legs, but that got axed quickly when someone found out that's way more expensive than some plywood boxes nobody ever sees under all the chairs anyway.

At my old job we built a veneered rosewood desk on two pairs of metal legs shaped like )( held together with a band in the middle where the two parentheses touched. The designer had some blacksmith guy make them and they had a great beeswax finish and hammer/peen marks all over them and looked cool and awesome. We put the wooden desk part on top and....it bounced around like a bobble head because we just put it on top of two leaf springs. It went against the back of a sofa, and between bracing it against that and a third, straight leg, it got to be moooostly steady. It sure looked pretty though.

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive
the scene: i am restrained in a chair with clockwork orange-style eye hooks engaged. a man is arbitrarily nailing poorly-made hairpin legs to the sides of a damp wooden pallet previously used to transport a leaky cargo of bulk feta cheese. "this coffee table build is great Content", he says. i am screaming and screaming

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Ambrose Burnside posted:

the scene: i am restrained in a chair with clockwork orange-style eye hooks engaged. a man is arbitrarily nailing poorly-made hairpin legs to the sides of a damp wooden pallet previously used to transport a leaky cargo of bulk feta cheese. "this coffee table build is great Content", he says. i am screaming and screaming
WIPE SOME MINWAX POLYSHADES ON THERE TO REALLY MAKE THE RECLAIMED GRAIN POP. POP THE GRAIN. POP THE GRAIN.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

It took me entirely too long to realize that those pictures are the bottom of a quarter of the table, not the whole thing.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

The original design for this actually called for giant steel U shaped legs, but that got axed quickly when someone found out that's way more expensive than some plywood boxes nobody ever sees under all the chairs anyway.

At my old job we built a veneered rosewood desk on two pairs of metal legs shaped like )( held together with a band in the middle where the two parentheses touched. The designer had some blacksmith guy make them and they had a great beeswax finish and hammer/peen marks all over them and looked cool and awesome. We put the wooden desk part on top and....it bounced around like a bobble head because we just put it on top of two leaf springs. It went against the back of a sofa, and between bracing it against that and a third, straight leg, it got to be moooostly steady. It sure looked pretty though.

Lol, you're a maniac. My kind of maniac I'd buy a couple beers.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
So I ordered a ring and I've been wanting to build this ring box:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsFYCkGq6E

To that end I think a router table might be handy, but not 100% necessary. Are the Kreg or Bosch tables useful? I have the Bosch 2.25 HP router with the interchangeable bases.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Ambrose Burnside posted:

the scene: i am restrained in a chair with clockwork orange-style eye hooks engaged. a man is arbitrarily nailing poorly-made hairpin legs to the sides of a damp wooden pallet previously used to transport a leaky cargo of bulk feta cheese. "this coffee table build is great Content", he says. i am screaming and screaming


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

WIPE SOME MINWAX POLYSHADES ON THERE TO REALLY MAKE THE RECLAIMED GRAIN POP. POP THE GRAIN. POP THE GRAIN.

Lmaooooo

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
Here I was blissfully unaware of the uh, trend of strapping hairpin legs to scrap wood and calling it fine furniture. :stare:

Instagram is surprisingly helpful as a “what not to do” for lazy furniture design, at least.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Ripoff posted:

Here I was blissfully unaware of the uh, trend of strapping hairpin legs to scrap wood and calling it fine furniture. :stare:

Instagram is surprisingly helpful as a “what not to do” for lazy furniture design, at least.

I went over to my brother's house for dinner at his new place, and his kitchen table is literally a bunch of floorboards screwed together and marketed as rustic. Whoever the lazy fucker was who built it didn't bother cleaning all the paint off, cutting off all the tongues but instead leaving just enough so you know exactly what it is, and the didn't even bother to sand the hosed up attempts and screw holes.

Furniture fashion can go get hosed imo.

Fortunately, I didn't have to tell at him, because it came with the apartment, but it was a close call.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

NPR Journalizard posted:

I went over to my brother's house for dinner at his new place, and his kitchen table is literally a bunch of floorboards screwed together and marketed as rustic. Whoever the lazy fucker was who built it didn't bother cleaning all the paint off, cutting off all the tongues but instead leaving just enough so you know exactly what it is, and the didn't even bother to sand the hosed up attempts and screw holes.

Furniture fashion can go get hosed imo.

Fortunately, I didn't have to tell at him, because it came with the apartment, but it was a close call.

As someone who is often lazy and makes mistakes, this opens up a whole new world of money making opportunities!

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
An instagram influencer pulls a bathroom stall divider from the dumpster, eying up the scratched corners, chipped paint, and crude hole carved in the center. “SUCKING SIDE” is etched above the hole in ballpoint pen.

“This will be my masterpiece” he murmurs, reaching for the hairpin legs.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it
"Reclaimed" used to be the buzz word that double the price for half the workmanship. Now with the popularity of slab and live edge stuff its "Urban Repurpose"

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive

Ripoff posted:

An instagram influencer pulls a bathroom stall divider from the dumpster, eying up the scratched corners, chipped paint, and crude hole carved in the center. “SUCKING SIDE” is etched above the hole in ballpoint pen.

“This will be my masterpiece” he murmurs, reaching for the hairpin legs.

as a conceptual art thing this would actually be interesting/cool, though (minus the legs)

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

JEEVES420 posted:

"Reclaimed" used to be the buzz word that double the price for half the workmanship. Now with the popularity of slab and live edge stuff its "Urban Repurpose"

People are going to start building timber skyscrapers to save money on material while charging double for aesthetics

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Ambrose Burnside posted:

as a conceptual art thing this would actually be interesting/cool, though (minus the legs)
Call it “Working Wood: Reconsidered”

E:

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

People are going to start building timber skyscrapers to save money on material while charging double for aesthetics
They already are but mostly to save money/use the huge quantities of mediocre plantation grown loblolly pine and dougfir the paper companies planted 30 yrs ago but now nobody reads newspapers anymore.

Look up cross laminated timber-it’s like plywood but made of 2x4s and comes in wall sized sheets.

E2: I miss your avatar

Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 3, 2019

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Ripoff posted:

An instagram influencer pulls a bathroom stall divider from the dumpster, eying up the scratched corners, chipped paint, and crude hole carved in the center. “SUCKING SIDE” is etched above the hole in ballpoint pen.

“This will be my masterpiece” he murmurs, reaching for the hairpin legs.

patent this milking table design mr instagram influencer

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Ambrose Burnside posted:

as a conceptual art thing this would actually be interesting/cool, though (minus the legs)

The legs make it a commentary on gentrification.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

I’ve never seen hairpin legs in real life but I’m fine with it

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

SUCKING SIDE is how I label my non-show surfaces.

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive

BraveUlysses posted:

patent this milking table design mr instagram influencer

concept: a porn review youtube or w/e channel that presents itself as Extremely Horney but immediately inevitably devolves into an earnest review + analysis of the DIY kink/bdsm fixtures contained therein, every single episode

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I bought a set of 8" hairpin legs after spending a week of evenings making 4" tapered legs for a cabinet only for my wife to request the cabinet be raised so the dog could sleep under it.

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

cakesmith handyman posted:

I bought a set of 8" hairpin legs after spending a week of evenings making 4" tapered legs for a cabinet only for my wife to request the cabinet be raised so the dog could sleep under it.

how small is your dog?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


JEEVES420 posted:

how small is your dog?

Between 4 and 8 inches

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
Woodworking Thread: How small is your dog hog

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


#benchdogs

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Woodworking: Pounding steel bars into dog holes to grasp my wood.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Alright so, say you're using some nice wud for trim around a door. How do you integrate the look of it with your door linings that are a functional but moderately knotty pine?

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it
Paint

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Jaded Burnout posted:

Alright so, say you're using some nice wud for trim around a door. How do you integrate the look of it with your door linings that are a functional but moderately knotty pine?

Linings? What ft is this linings you are on about? Do you mean door jambs? Use pine, also with knots, knad- knots not a defect.

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Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Jaded Burnout posted:

Alright so, say you're using some nice wud for trim around a door. How do you integrate the look of it with your door linings that are a functional but moderately knotty pine?
What kind of wood is the nice wood and what color do you want it all to be? With good staining/glazing/finishing you can match most things to most other things esp. if you are going for a darker shade.

Depending on how exactly your doors work, you could also probably cover the exposed part of the linings with nice wood to match if you really want to.

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