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Regardless Misatowns.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 08:40 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 20:00 |
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:misatowns: I wonder if the new watchers caught Misato's lifeless body being torn asunder just after she shoves Shinji into the elevator and loving dies
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 09:03 |
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Honestly the only dub VA I'm not a fan of in the new one is Asuka. She's severely lacking in the energy Tiffany Grant had and I can't decide if that was just a direction issue or a lack of experience as a VA.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 13:09 |
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https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/evywgp/evangelion-wont-stop-leering-as-it-explores-its-characters-sexuality
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 14:23 |
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That scene basically ruined their enjoyment of Dance Like You Want to Win, which is too bad but I get it. What's a little weird to me is less that they seem to take issue with the sexualization of Asuka as the headline implies, and more that the scene coming so early into Asuka's relationship with the show and Shinji makes the romantic comedy tropes in the episode not work. The actual content warning they give at the start of the whole pod I feel is a bit more pointed at, not to drudge it all up again, the Netflix translator's comments and views on child pornography in anime/manga/fanworks. They really seemed to enjoy Day Tokyo-3 Stood Still and the Sahaquiel episodes, the former of which makes me happy because I weirdly have a lot of people being critical of that one over the years. They predictably hated Magma Diver which isn't a surprise, but they also only spend like 10 minutes on it so it's whatever. What I was a little surprised about was them being pretty 'meh' on Angel Infiltration, but I guess I just like Ritsuko a lot and always enjoyed the lore dump on the Magi and her getting the spotlight for a change. I think they bring up the criticisms on those episodes that merit them; maybe some of that stuff with Asuka/Shinji will work better in the context of the overall story once they've finished because I certainly inject a lot of the later stuff into that scene in my rewatches which is a genie in the lamp I can't put back in. They're doing 14-19 next time, 20-24, and then 25-26-EoE so I feel the next three will be real bangers of conversations.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 14:58 |
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Misato is super fuckin' good at her job and is 100% business when she needs to be and all while being a (just about) functional alcoholic. What she pulls off despite having about 10% of the information she really should have is wild.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 15:06 |
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Pyrotoad posted:Honestly the only dub VA I'm not a fan of in the new one is Asuka. She's severely lacking in the energy Tiffany Grant had and I can't decide if that was just a direction issue or a lack of experience as a VA. Bad voice performance nowadays in dubs is mostly due to the director. VA's have no or little context to the scenes they're doing, so it's entirely reliant on the director having a good enough handle to write and direct.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 15:10 |
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I'm finally getting around to poking around the Netflix dub and wow, I cannot stand the way they're pronouncing Fuyutsuki. There's an emphasis on the "su" that really shouldn't be there and its driving me up the wall.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 15:46 |
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Nate RFB posted:That scene basically ruined their enjoyment of Dance Like You Want to Win, which is too bad but I get it. What's a little weird to me is less that they seem to take issue with the sexualization of Asuka as the headline implies, and more that the scene coming so early into Asuka's relationship with the show and Shinji makes the romantic comedy tropes in the episode not work. The actual content warning they give at the start of the whole pod I feel is a bit more pointed at, not to drudge it all up again, the Netflix translator's comments and views on child pornography in anime/manga/fanworks. Not to mention their discussion about the way Kensuke and Toji sell naked pictures of Asuka, yet are treated as perceptive young boys. Honestly, I myself found a lot of this hard to stomach on this most recent rewatch.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 16:41 |
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Have started watching the Rebuild films. The first one is okay but nowhere near as good as the equivalent episodes of the TV show. I know it goes off the rails in the second film so hopefully that means it'll get more entertaining.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 16:42 |
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cargohills posted:Have started watching the Rebuild films. The first one is okay but nowhere near as good as the equivalent episodes of the TV show. I know it goes off the rails in the second film so hopefully that means it'll get more entertaining. I haven't seen the Rebuild films since they were first released but I recall 2.0 being pretty much exactly what I wanted 1.0 to be. Definitely don't skip it.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 16:54 |
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Xander B Coolridge posted:I'm not sure how you're arriving at that conclusion. The first 45 minutes is absolutely full of discussion about how the show participates in sexualizing the underage girls, and how Kaji's sexually harassing behavior is totally ignored. The stuff with Kensuke's photos is definitely crazy for me to think about now in 2019; I would have probably internalized it when I first watched the show like the Back to the Future peeping tom scene they brought up at the time but now it's like, woah what the gently caress?
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:06 |
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https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1146798367516897280 Y'all'll
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:06 |
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Given that Asuka is lacking an eyepatch and Kaworu isn't lacking a head, I'm assuming that the second image is just "here is some cool promo art but we're not giving you fuckers any hints about what we're actually doing".
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:08 |
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Are we gonna get some loving Evangelion: Endgame happening??
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:10 |
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Asuka's spine is all jacked up
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:11 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:Asuka's spine is all jacked up We don't call things "jacked up" anymore. Now we say they're "the lowest of the low".
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:19 |
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Weird BIAS posted:I love reading Eva assuming Misato is far more competant than the show lets her be. I just got to the episode where they all go to a wedding and Misato gets drunk and I honestly think she pretended to get drunk to trick Kaji into thinking she wouldn't be on his rear end when he investigates terminal dogma the next day. Not that she didn't spill her guts about how she felt about Kaji but yeah I think she knew he was trying to gently caress with her to get Nerv's secrets. Misato is an actual alcoholic. She probably is used to dealing with hangovers and may not even get them at the level of drunk she was that night.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 17:21 |
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Nate RFB posted:The actual content warning they give at the start of the whole pod I feel is a bit more pointed at, not to drudge it all up again, the Netflix translator's comments and views on child pornography in anime/manga/fanworks.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 18:57 |
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Ogmius815 posted:This is off topic, but Jesus famously didn’t write anything. Not quite, he is described as writing in the dirt in John 8 while the Pharisees are talking.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 18:58 |
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Aaaand done with EOE. God drat this movie is gorgeous. I hate that 1.0+3.0 is going to be using lovely CG for everything it looks so bad in comparison. I'm pretty (read: sort of but not really) sure that the rest of humanity survived and is washing up on other shores of Shinji's newly made hellworld. I mean, that was kind of the whole point of Shinji's choice at the end and I think that's what all the white crosses going everywhere symbolized. It's hard to say for certain though. I AM pretty sure that the "Asuka at the end is Shinji's three crushes in one body" theory is bunk though since those injuries were pretty clearly incurred in the fight with the mass production Evas. Her just being Asuka also makes that moment at the very end where she caresses his face as he chokes her particularly interesting since it echoes her behavior throughout the show where she cares about Shinji despite him being the patron saint of self-absorbed losers and failing her at every opportunity. I think the fact that he stops choking her and instead starts crying may also indicate that he's grown a bit since the scene in the kitchen (and yes, that is super problematic if that was Anno's intent). Either way I can't think of another series where we'd be having this kind of discussion 15 years after the fact. NGE is so loving good and I'm so happy that a new generation is getting the opportunity to be traumatized by it.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 19:24 |
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esselfortium posted:Given that Asuka is lacking an eyepatch and Kaworu isn't lacking a head, I'm assuming that the second image is just "here is some cool promo art but we're not giving you fuckers any hints about what we're actually doing". Surprise twist - the movie actually ignores 3.0 entirely and the movie just picks up directly from the end of 2.0 without any timeskip and everyone continues forward like nothing happened
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 19:35 |
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https://twitter.com/ActionZacku/status/1146849449643143168
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 19:45 |
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I thought 3.0+1.0 kind of implied that it was the end of eva but the beginning of a new chapter. Or something, I just know it stopped being Eva Q and am drat happy that's not the case with the Dumb Internet latching on to that letter like Doug Funnie sketching Quailman poo poo all over a notebook.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 19:46 |
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I’ll never stop wondering why he loving chokes her. It’s the weirdest thing in a series full of weird things.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:24 |
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Ogmius815 posted:I’ll never stop wondering why he loving chokes her. It’s the weirdest thing in a series full of weird things. they're fresh out of being merged into a single collective consciousness and each knows exactly what the other thinks of them imagine the worst grudge anyone's ever had against you, and then imagine that feeling being injected into your own brain so intimately that you can barely even separate it from your own self-loathing wouldn't you want to do anything you could to get that feeling out of your head, to deny it, to pin it on someone else, maybe even punish them for thinking it? that's where I imagine Shinji is at in that moment. and yeah, it's really hosed up and wrong of him, and driven by cowardice and fear. but in the final measure I don't think it's all that strange, just sad. or if you're feeling less charitable -- "How disgusting."
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:27 |
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It's just being the ultimate tsundere at the end of the world. *caresses cheek* "How disgusting"
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:30 |
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Covok posted:https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/evywgp/evangelion-wont-stop-leering-as-it-explores-its-characters-sexuality Finally Evangelion is cancelled
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:41 |
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asuka and shinji are poison to each other but the brief glimmers of them working together or just being dumb kids gives me hope they can understand each other after eoe
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:50 |
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Because the movie's kitchen scene takes place directly before 3rd Impact proper, so when Shinji exits the LCL sea all of the feelings of separation he had before come back, replaying his twisted recollection of Episode 15. This is easier to follow in the new translation.CharlestheHammer posted:Lol citing a work on translation that was last revised in the 60s erm kind of irrelevant tbh, the point is that languages can meet halfway Mermaid Autopsy fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 4, 2019 |
# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:52 |
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Also Asuka is the first person he's seen come out of the tang. Its been a while too judging by the number of little memorials he's built. Having a rather extreme emotional reaction after a traumatic experience and extended isolation is probably the most human thing he could have done. He's having PTSD flashbacks and probably a full on mental breakdown.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:54 |
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Death (True)^2 has more logos at the beginning than I have ever seen in any other movie.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:59 |
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Ogmius815 posted:I’ll never stop wondering why he loving chokes her. It’s the weirdest thing in a series full of weird things. To add to what everyone else has said, to have everything that Asuka represents to him along with the guilt and shame for what he's done laid right at his feet, it's honestly natural that his reaction is to get rid of it. Base Shinji comes out and tries to run away from dealing with another person again. But there's no where to literally run away to, so he tries to kill her. Asuka's touch reminds him that she's a person and the lessons that he learned in the human soup and he stops choking her. It's the first slow, shaky, step towards Shinji being a more healthy person
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 20:59 |
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questions of why a character in evangelion did something or what is motivating them are almost always answerable on an emotional level. that's kinda the whole point.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 21:03 |
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Expect My Mom posted:questions of why a character in evangelion did something or what is motivating them are almost always answerable on an emotional level. that's kinda the whole point. character studies, are, in my opinion, fairly win, IMO.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 21:39 |
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Just finished EoE. drat that was a trip. He chokes her cause he's so hosed up then he stops cause he's not quite that hosed up, made sense to me.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 21:42 |
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P-Mack posted:Just finished EoE. drat that was a trip. As expected of someone with that name.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 22:15 |
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Expect My Mom posted:questions of why a character in evangelion did something or what is motivating them are almost always answerable on an emotional level. that's kinda the whole point. for the protagonists they all have exactly the same answer: teenagers am i right yes this includes 3.0, wearing an eyepatch doesn't mean you actually aged asuka
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 22:31 |
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Yinlock posted:for the protagonists they all have exactly the same answer: teenagers am i right hey when a quirk of fate denies you the ability to emotionally mature and stabilize you're allowed to put on an eyepatch to give you some semblance of change imagine being stuck with not just the body but also the emotional foibles of your fourteen-year-old self forever. it's basically hell on earth
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 22:57 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 20:00 |
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Asuka is the kind of person who if their eye was injured in third impact because of Shinji would put on an eyepatch for the next time she sees him just to gently caress with him even if the wound has healed.
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# ? Jul 4, 2019 23:27 |