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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

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New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
Is that.. is that a pog?

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Hell yeah brother

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Picollo's back, in pog form!

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Zedd posted:

Picollo's back, in pog form!

https://youtu.be/ugoKjb2cbuY

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Petiso posted:

Yeah, for example Goku's particular way of introducing himself, "ora Goku" is the hick version of "ore wa Goku" (I'm Goku), same with Chichi's using the -sa suffix instead of -san.

This is how Goku and Chichi are seen in-universe is what I mean:



I really want to see a dub like this now.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I really want to see a dub like this now.

Redneck Ball Z

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Kinda weird that they give Goku more a more childish, urban style of talking in the dub, even if it's meant to play up that he's kind of dumb and lacks social niceties, though maybe he picked that up from Bulma.

Chi-chi grew up with a super rich dad though, so logically she'd likely talk like a Southern Belle.

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Kinda weird that they give Goku more a more childish, urban style of talking in the dub, even if it's meant to play up that he's kind of dumb and lacks social niceties, though maybe he picked that up from Bulma.

Chi-chi grew up with a super rich dad though, so logically she'd likely talk like a Southern Belle.

A super rich dad because he lived like a giant punchman warlord.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Ox King is one of those characters who despite never getting a lot of focus is kinda fascinating, particularly how he apparently had a Power Level of 1000*, which means that for a long time he was one of the strongest people on Earth hypothetically, though it's balanced out by the fact that he apparently could never get a hang of actually using anything that uses Ki

Which probably explains the crazy potential of Gohan and Goten almost as much as them having Goku for a dad, they also had very good genes on their mother's side(kinda makes one wonder how high Chi Chi could have gone if she hasn't decided to focus almost completely on being a housewife and mother)

*admittedly said source is kinda iffy, but from my recollection it mostly matches up with what we saw in the source material through the early parts of Z

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Chi-Chi is lowkey probably the most powerful non-Ki using non-android woman on Earth (there are a few scenes where she breaks almost as much stuff as Goku when she loses her temper), and she did teach Goten how to fight and train him well enough he went Super Saiyan. Starting to make sense why Pan is showing signs of being ridiculously powerful, given her grandpas are Ox King, Mr Satan and Goku.

Speaking of stuff lost in translation, Goten apparently calls Vegeta something like 'uncle'.

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Kinda weird that they give Goku more a more childish, urban style of talking in the dub, even if it's meant to play up that he's kind of dumb and lacks social niceties, though maybe he picked that up from Bulma.

Chi-chi grew up with a super rich dad though, so logically she'd likely talk like a Southern Belle.

Well originally in the dub I'm sure they were going for the "Goku is a heroic kung fu Superman" angle. Kai leaned more into the "Goku is kinda stupid" aspect of the series but had to walk that balance of new vs old.

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Chi-Chi is lowkey probably the most powerful non-Ki using non-android woman on Earth (there are a few scenes where she breaks almost as much stuff as Goku when she loses her temper), and she did teach Goten how to fight and train him well enough he went Super Saiyan. Starting to make sense why Pan is showing signs of being ridiculously powerful, given her grandpas are Ox King, Mr Satan and Goku.

Speaking of stuff lost in translation, Goten apparently calls Vegeta something like 'uncle'.

He calls him ojisan, which means “uncle,” but doesn’t explicitly denote a familial relationship and can be used for a close family friend, which is exactly what Vegeta is to the Son family.

Not to be confused with ojiisan which would mean grandpa and could obviously make someone upset.

Same for obasan and obaasan for “auntie” and “granny.”

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Chi-Chi is lowkey probably the most powerful non-Ki using non-android woman on Earth (there are a few scenes where she breaks almost as much stuff as Goku when she loses her temper), and she did teach Goten how to fight and train him well enough he went Super Saiyan. Starting to make sense why Pan is showing signs of being ridiculously powerful, given her grandpas are Ox King, Mr Satan and Goku.

Speaking of stuff lost in translation, Goten apparently calls Vegeta something like 'uncle'.

You know it would make for a fun several episode arc in the next show if a situation came up that had to be resolved by all the non-Ki using characters in the cast

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Like, let's not undersell this for Chi-Chi

And this is something people constantly forget when it comes to saying Videl was the strongest non Android woman in the cast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpDO-Yo8L0A

She literally forces Goten to become SSJ through sheer physical training. She just beats him up until he gets angry enough for it to pop and is actually able to hurt him.

Compare that to how Goten treated Videl, where he was always humoring her.

Chi-Chi is strong

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Moro can't be defeated by ki or god ki but he wasn't counting on Chi-Chi

Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 10, 2019

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

someone wish Chi Chi a Saiyan already so she'll be unable to resist the siren call of bloodlust and is back in her fighting prime because Saiyans are loving weird with numbers

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

could chi-chi beat up mr satan

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Skeleton Mom posted:

could chi-chi beat up mr satan

Mr. Satan is a very good human level martial artist.

He'd be a good match for King Choppa or that one actor martial artist.

He's never, ever been on Goku's level, and Krillin left him behind the moment he went through Roshi's super human training.

Chi-Chi beat Super Sayian into a child. She'd win.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

While my feelings and the feelings of this thread about GT are well-known and I don't think it's worth pointing out its existence most of the time...

https://twitter.com/DB_HEROES/status/1149124675508699138

This is a really cool card! That part of the opening is a fond childhood memory for some reason and seeing it remade in-game is great.

I wish World Mission got more updates just to get the cool new cards.

EDIT: Here it is in action. God Kamehameha, this is so good.

https://twitter.com/jPBl283M9InP1wC/status/1149064478853459969

Blaze Dragon fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jul 11, 2019

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Burkion posted:

Mr. Satan is a very good human level martial artist.

He'd be a good match for King Choppa or that one actor martial artist.

He's never, ever been on Goku's level, and Krillin left him behind the moment he went through Roshi's super human training.

Chi-Chi beat Super Sayian into a child. She'd win.

Way I see it is that Mr Satan is basically the absolute peak a Martial artist can get without having any Ki control whatsoever, Chi Chi on the other hand I feel probably does have some extremely limited Ki control, not enough to fly or any other fancy tricks*, but it's definitely why she was able to handle training Goten

I do feel like that if through time travel shenanigans we got a fight between Mr Satan at his prime vs Kid Goku at his first World's Martial Arts tournament it would be a surprisingly close match, Goku would still win, but it would last surprisingly long

*which I figure has more to do with her overall lack of interest in fighting once she got married than in her potential, if she had to train up properly for some reason she'd probably end up higher than Yamcha easily and I could see her possibly reaching Tien or even Krillin's level

drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jul 11, 2019

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Mr. Satan should fight Jackie Chun.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Mr Satan and Master Roshi might actually get along. And trade porn mags.

Remember Videl was taught everything she initially knew by Mr Satan and her fundamentals are solid.

Funny thing is Mr Satan is one of the only people besides Bulma and Videl who'll actually stand up to Chi-Chi regarding parenting.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Frankly if Chi-Chi could beat Yamcha in a fight, especially NOW since he's given up being a fighter at all, I wouldn't be shocked.

She's nowhere near Krillin or Tien's level but she's definitely got some natural skill and power, probably just by living with Goku, as sporadic as that can be.

Petiso
Apr 30, 2012



While he's stronger than average, it's clear Mr.Satan lucked out and didn't get anyone exceptionally strong in the tournament he won. There are plenty of strong people on Earth who don't bother to take part in the tournament, I'm sure he'd still have problems with many of the human opponents Goku faces in OG Dragon Ball.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

drrockso20 posted:

Way I see it is that Mr Satan is basically the absolute peak a Martial artist can get without having any Ki control whatsoever, Chi Chi on the other hand I feel probably does have some extremely limited Ki control, not enough to fly or any other fancy tricks*, but it's definitely why she was able to handle training Goten

I do feel like that if through time travel shenanigans we got a fight between Mr Satan at his prime vs Kid Goku at his first World's Martial Arts tournament it would be a surprisingly close match, Goku would still win, but it would last surprisingly long

*which I figure has more to do with her overall lack of interest in fighting once she got married than in her potential, if she had to train up properly for some reason she'd probably end up higher than Yamcha easily and I could see her possibly reaching Tien or even Krillin's level

lol

Yamcha and Krillin are both portrayed as incredible talents in DB, learning the kamehameha just by seeing it done once or twice. "Chi Chi could have been a contender" is some serious selective memory stuff.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Chi-Chi is something of an odd middle ground.

I'm surprised that Super made me really like the Androids. Maybe because they're excellent foils to the wackiness and escalating terror of the Tournament of Power, while not being afraid at all. I suppose after all they've been through there's not much that really shakes them anymore, but they're not above playing the villainous part and aren't ashamed of anything.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Chi chi trained a person to go SS, she is way above Krillin and Yamcha

Slightly Absurd
Mar 22, 2004


Krillin was directly involved in Goku becoming Super Saiyan

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Becoming a Super Saiyan is hardly an achievement in the era of the bargain sale, so I'm not willing to say Chichi did anything particularly impressive.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Blaze Dragon posted:

Becoming a Super Saiyan is hardly an achievement in the era of the bargain sale, so I'm not willing to say Chichi did anything particularly impressive.

It’s impressive compared to her competitors , a low bar for sure but still a bar

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Blaze Dragon posted:

Becoming a Super Saiyan is hardly an achievement in the era of the bargain sale, so I'm not willing to say Chichi did anything particularly impressive.

if i became a super saiyan this thread would never shut the gently caress up about it so i dont know about that fam

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

I appreciate the attempt at doing a redemptive reading for Chi Chi but come on, this stuff is really, really stretching it

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Mr Satan vs Chi-Chi who would win

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I don’t think chi chi needs a redemption reading.

Her being stronger than some of the supporting cast doesn’t really mean anything.

She still produced a functional son against all odds and Goten.......exists

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
Is there confirmation that Goten went SSJ directly as a result of that fight with Chichi? I feel like when we see Trunks do it he already knows Goten knows how, so I assumed they hit it together while playing or sparring or something, and Goten just did it defending against Chichi out of reflex.

I mean, it doesn't matter really since they could basically disintegrate and nobody would notice but we've got to talk about something in this thread..

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Goten says he did it while training with her.


You can assume it was a coincidence but I can’t think of reason too

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

justice for chi chi

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Augus posted:

Mr Satan vs Chi-Chi who would win

If Satan were in his prime then Satan hands down, but he's literally relied on Buu to fix matches and throw the finals for him all the time to keep his Champ status, he's probably rusty as hell when it comes to fighting. (Although I guess I'll give him credit, he does seem to keep in shape even into his later years, dude probably has a good workout routine.)

I'll go with Chichi, because even if all she's doing is light practice with Goten and of course the exercise she gets hitting Goku on the head when he says something stupid for comedic effect, she's keeping in practice.

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Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Universe 6's strongest fighter and God of Destruction candidate, Mister Satan, would easily beat all but the strongest of fighters.

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