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gently caress Lost is the god drat reason they’re called white walkers in the show because they didn’t want to confuse the use of the term Others
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Koirhor posted:gently caress Lost is the god drat reason they’re called white walkers in the show because they didn’t want to confuse the use of the term Others White walkers is used in the books too.
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Jul 31, 2019 03:46
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Was it? I can't remember.
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Jul 31, 2019 12:40
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I will never forgive the writers of lost for being the greatest bullshit artists in history. Week after week of puzzle endings designed to intrigue and confound and a constant stream of " guys dont worry...we have all this planned out...we know what were doing" They didn't and they didn't. It still makes angry to this day.
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Jul 31, 2019 12:59
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Well everyone guessed after Episode 1 somewhat correctly that they were in ‘Purgatory’
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Jul 31, 2019 13:15
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hitchensgoespop posted:I will never forgive the writers of lost for being the greatest bullshit artists in history. *BSG’s “and they have a plan” slide pops up* Narrator voice: There was no plan
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Jul 31, 2019 14:33
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I'm being 100% honest when I say I wish he would just admit these will never be finished and walk away. It'd be embarrassing but I'd rather he just put everyone and himself out of their misery after ADWD turned out how it did. And really how much more embarrassing can it get than a bunch of HBO boob peddlers finishing off your lifes work for you because you couldn't be arsed into doing it yourself in less than a decade. I'll throw in a hot take and say that after my series re-read I'm of the opinion Dance is the second best book and maybe even the best It's a shame about the dr Seuss 'the more she drank the more she poo poo' line cause outside of that the Dany chapters are actually really loving good
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Jul 31, 2019 20:58
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It does have a lot of Stannis, I'll give it that
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Jul 31, 2019 21:00
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Solice Kirsk posted:Was it? I can't remember. At the very least I just saw it used in world of ice and fire which grrm considers book canon. Been a minute since I read the series.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:58
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"White Walkers" is one of the several poetic alternate names for the Others. It's never used as anything but a flowery alternate name to my recollection.
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Jul 31, 2019 22:42
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cheetah7071 posted:"White Walkers" is one of the several poetic alternate names for the Others. It's never used as anything but a flowery alternate name to my recollection. I could have sworn that it was only used for the zombies.
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Jul 31, 2019 22:48
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genericnick posted:I could have sworn that it was only used for the zombies. those are called wights consistently I think
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Jul 31, 2019 22:54
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genericnick posted:I could have sworn that it was only used for the zombies. You're thinking of the Wights. All the wights are zombies and all the zombies are wights; the White Walkers/Others are the seemingly non-human blue/white people who make and control the wights
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Jul 31, 2019 22:54
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wight itself being an old english word for "man" or "person" that has come to be associated with the unquiet dead in fantastical literature, as 19th and 20th century English-language writers used it to translate the concept of draugs from norse mythology and other sorts of folkloric sentient undead e: and pronounced 'wig-ht', not 'white'
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Aug 1, 2019 12:12
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A Typical Goon posted:I'll throw in a hot take and say that after my series re-read I'm of the opinion Dance is the second best book and maybe even the best Yeah after my re-read I can agree with second for Dance. Clash is still at one for me though.
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Aug 1, 2019 12:39
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:wight itself being an old english word for "man" or "person" that has come to be associated with the unquiet dead in fantastical literature, as 19th and 20th century English-language writers used it to translate the concept of draugs from norse mythology and other sorts of folkloric sentient undead I have to say his choice of the term wight for his zombies was puzzling to me. Granted he wrote the first one in 1996 so zombies were less prevalent, but I dunno it seemed bizarre. Maybe he was trying to deliberately reference Tolkien, he also used the term warg, though totally differently than Tolkien did (arguably more accurately), so maybe he was trying to make some kind of point or something. Also, unquiet dead or undead or ab-dead or what have you, creatures, are common in real Earth mythology, they come in many forms and varieties yet in AsoIaF the only undead referenced ever as far as I know are the wights (maybe Robert Strong, the ice dragon I guess).
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Aug 1, 2019 13:00
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Might have picked up on the Wight from it's use in Dungeons & Dragons. Don't know if he played that specifically but he was definitely into Superhero RPG's. Most of the orginal Wild Cards characters were from his Superworld campaign.
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Aug 1, 2019 13:56
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historically, it's dnd module writers' who've ripped off grrm rather than the other way around and the use of wight to describe or denote undead in fantasy literature goes back to at least Victorian translations of the old Norse sagas into English, so it's less that Martin is using Tolkein's tag than that he's following the conventions of ~150 years of English-language fantastic prose
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Aug 1, 2019 21:18
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The word zombie originates in voodooism so I understand why he didn't use that. "Undead" might have been better than "wight" but honestly wight is fine?
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Aug 1, 2019 21:32
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pseudanonymous posted:
Dondarrion Stoneheart Maybe probably Jon The Undying arguably Bloodraven Varamyr and Orell The Ghost of High Heart? Maybe Oh and Clarence Crabb's heads. I'm sure they're for real. Kuiperdolin fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Aug 1, 2019 23:15
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varamyr and orell aren't undead, they're just animals now
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Aug 1, 2019 23:43
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They died and still live.
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Aug 2, 2019 07:24
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Koirhor posted:gently caress Lost is the god drat reason they’re called white walkers in the show because they didn’t want to confuse the use of the term Others This is also why Robin Arryn and Yara Greyjoy are a thing, they were afraid two Roberts would be confusing and Asha was too similar to Osha.
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Aug 2, 2019 12:04
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:varamyr and orell aren't undead, they're just animals now Orell's spirit got pushed aside when Varamyr claimed the bird, Melisandre eventually set the bird on fire causing Varamyr to go mad for a while. quote:Once a horse is broken to the saddle, any man can mount him. Once a beast’s been joined to a man, any skinchanger can slip inside and ride him. Orell was withering inside his feathers, so I took the eagle for my own. But the joining works both ways, warg. Orell lives inside me now, whispering how much he hates you. And I can soar above the Wall, and see with eagle eyes. Vichan fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 12:06
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Vichan posted:This is also why Robin Arryn and Yara Greyjoy are a thing, they were afraid two Roberts would be confusing and Asha was too similar to Osha. sweetrobert
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Aug 2, 2019 14:43
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https://twitter.com/RileyMcAtee/status/1156974069616541696
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Aug 4, 2019 12:35
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If this piece of dogshit actually wins Best Writing at the Emmys it's gonna be a hilarious shitshow. They had to pull the PDF off the Emmy website after people started mocking it too hard.
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Aug 4, 2019 22:48
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I think way too many people were down on the last season, for justified (it sucked), and unjustified (Dany was supposed to win!), reasons for it to do anything big again but who knows. It really seemed one sided in the online discourse
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Aug 6, 2019 01:06
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No it was gratifying to see a spade be called a spade rather than having a bunch of websites bullshit to curry favour with HBO
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Aug 6, 2019 03:31
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Mameluke posted:No it was gratifying to see a spade be called a spade rather than having a bunch of websites bullshit to curry favour with HBO I think actually seeing the script really crystallized it for folks and kind of made it impossible to do so in the face of hard evidence. And the fact that it came hot on the heels of D&D ducking out of ComicCon and the panel abruptly ending before the Q&A session started just helped contribute to the snowball of guilt surrounding them. Like, the fix is in, it’s gonna win best writing, but now people at least know that it really was a garbage script that won.
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Aug 6, 2019 03:53
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Seeing the script? What was wrong with it that wasn't in the episode?
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Aug 6, 2019 04:27
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Ague Proof posted:Seeing the script? What was wrong with it that wasn't in the episode? The direction was somehow massively dumber than what happened on screen. It's a tremendous achievement in that sense
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Aug 6, 2019 04:30
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:The direction was somehow massively dumber than what happened on screen. It's a tremendous achievement in that sense Yeah, what was on screen was bad, but now phrases like “Jon and Sansa failed geography”, “Her Satanic Majesty”, and “How the gently caress did this happen?” are out there in semi-public parlance.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:49
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Ague Proof posted:Seeing the script? What was wrong with it that wasn't in the episode? I think it's more that there was nothing right with it that wasn't in the episode. People were hoping for exculpatory evidence, there was none.
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Aug 6, 2019 05:44
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ARYA looks at KING'S LANDING on fire, everything is charred. Wowwee, DROGON sure knows how to PAINT IT BLACK, the GOLDEN COMPANY smashed, like a 1996 FORD MUSTANG plowed through them.
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Aug 6, 2019 07:26
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pseudanonymous posted:I think it's more that there was nothing right with it that wasn't in the episode. People were hoping for exculpatory evidence, there was none. And it also revealed that a few of the actual good moments in the finale were actually garbage salvaged by a great production crew. Like how Drogon burning the Iron Throne because he somehow realized it was responsible for Dany’s death by being the source of her lust for power in the script is actually just Drogon blasting fire at a wall in a fit of blind rage and the throne just happened to be in the way and melted accidentally. Like, there’s a reason Isaac Hempstead-Wright thought the script was a pisstake joke at first and then had a panic attack when he realized it was real.
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Aug 6, 2019 09:46
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pseudanonymous posted:I think it's more that there was nothing right with it that wasn't in the episode. People were hoping for exculpatory evidence, there was none. Looking for meaning or some level of thought and you get this instead quote:The Dothraki scream and raise their arakhs into the air. We have some badass-looking Dothraki in the mix.
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Aug 6, 2019 18:13
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 I get that a script is not a novel, but the prose seems really bad.
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Aug 6, 2019 18:20
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I still haven't quite figured out whether the dumb bystander refers to the throne or Jon
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Aug 6, 2019 18:22
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I will say this for the last season of Game of Thrones. They consistently upped their game. Basically each episode I thought "they can't possibly gently caress up the characters, poo poo up the plots, have more stupid meaningless action stunts, and forget more of the lore than this, this has to be the pinnacle of awfulness." But they did. Each episode they exceeded my expectations. Each episode they pushed the envelope.
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