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I know that the term Isekai has existed since at least 2003.
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NikkolasKing posted:Are we talking about stuff like FY or "actual" Isekai? isekai literally just means "another world" so it's pretty broad as to what can be included. a lot of modern versions are recycling the same tropes but i wouldn't say they alone should get to define the genre as a whole. though even with an ungenerous interpretation of isekai requiring harems and whatnot, you can see things like the leads in Escaflowne and Inuyasha run into multiple romantic interests through the course of their series. anyway the only real difference between old isekai and modern stuff is the term/genre wasn't a concept at the forefront of discussion before a certain point, which is why you see a lot of people retroactively categorizing stuff as isekai because it fits this framework that we've now built out. the uh, complex framework of "do they go to or come from another world" lol. isekai can be kind of a useless categorization imo.
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Aug 11, 2019 19:36
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Mraagvpeine posted:I know that the term Isekai has existed since at least 2003. It's much older (I've found as early as 1979 for story titles) but the current popularization of the term stems from the early 00s.
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dogsicle posted:isekai literally just means "another world" so it's pretty broad as to what can be included. a lot of modern versions are recycling the same tropes but i wouldn't say they alone should get to define the genre as a whole. though even with an ungenerous interpretation of isekai requiring harems and whatnot, you can see things like the leads in Escaflowne and Inuyasha run into multiple romantic interests through the course of their series. Fair enough. That's good to know. Thank you. Speaking of useless categorizations though, what do you all think of the term battle shounen? It encompasses some very radically different series but people have assumptions about a series if you say it's a battle shounen. Sometimes it's fair other times it's not. Inuyasha is nothing like Dragon B all Z for example but both are "battle shounen." But One Piece and Naruto and Bleach all have pretty similar tropes and cliches.
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Aug 11, 2019 20:28
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Just shonen series where the main tool of plot progression is fights.
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Aug 11, 2019 20:35
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Flame of recca is a battle shonen one piece isn't
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Aug 11, 2019 20:51
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One piece is definitely a battle shonen lol. The problem is people place a positive or (usually) negative connotation on genre titles. Something like Dr. Stone, or Death Note are what I would call not Battle Shonen. Dexo fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Aug 11, 2019 |
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Aug 11, 2019 20:54
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i don't think its a negative but one piece has tons of adventuring in it and that moves a lot of the plot. the adventuring is one of the reasons i love skypiea
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Aug 11, 2019 21:00
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Jose posted:i don't think its a negative but one piece has tons of adventuring in it and that moves a lot of the plot. the adventuring is one of the reasons i love skypiea This is probably why 'Battle Shounen' isn't a reliable genre term, not counting that shonen isn't a genre in the first place. But One Piece is largely about people solving all their problems by punching them and Skypeia being what it is is basically the only time in the entire story where exploration and discovery were major themes. Not saying Luffy and the Gang aren't doing those things now, but it's far more secondary to each arc's plot than the forefront.
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Aug 11, 2019 21:42
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skypeia was a big battle royale with 3 factions. the whole vearth segment was basically one big fight
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Aug 11, 2019 23:54
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7Deadly sins I'm mostly posting this due to the hilarious typo. "O Heroes thine hearts etched by seven cars."
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Aug 12, 2019 07:27
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Escanor is still the only good thing about this manga.
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Aug 12, 2019 10:37
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Better get in there quick before I accidentaly kill the final boss. He really is the best.
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Aug 12, 2019 11:23
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Jose posted:i don't think its a negative but one piece has tons of adventuring in it and that moves a lot of the plot. the adventuring is one of the reasons i love skypiea the adventuring is just getting to the place where the big fights happen I guess you could say that's "moving the plot" but the big emotional climaxes are always big series of fights
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i would say that OP is a mix of an adventure-comedy shonen like the original Dragon Ball, and a battle shonen like it's not really fully either of those things, but you can't say it doesn't have one foot firmly in either
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Blockhouse posted:the adventuring is just getting to the place where the big fights happen the adventuring also provides context to the fights so it's an integral part of the story like what if dbz went from goku vs vegeta to goku vs freeza with nothing in between
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Yinlock posted:the adventuring also provides context to the fights so it's an integral part of the story Approximately 80 less episodes.
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Aug 14, 2019 16:34
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New Chainsawman. https://readms.net/r/csm/034/6115/1 What a bunch of crazies! Oh and dragging out Himeno's devil like that? Dick move Snake lady!
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Aug 17, 2019 09:33
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chainsawman is loving wild
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Aug 17, 2019 09:54
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Huh. So the Snake can spit out stuff it eats. Wonder if any of these new characters will last.
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Aug 17, 2019 16:58
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this guy likes drawing hands even more than horikoshi
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Aug 17, 2019 18:03
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Some cool new devilmen characters. Don't expect them to last too long though.
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Oxxidation posted:this guy likes drawing hands even more than horikoshi Horikoshi actually really hates hands You want to see hands? Read Juju.
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Aug 17, 2019 22:31
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TriffTshngo posted:chainsawman is loving wild He's not a plague doctor he'd plague doctored!
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Aug 17, 2019 23:38
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Chainsawman just casually introducing a loving street shark, I love it
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Aug 17, 2019 23:44
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Horikoshi actually really hates hands Horikoshi loves hands, what he hates are the hands on Shigaraki's costume. Which is why they're gone now.
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Shadowlyger posted:Horikoshi loves hands, what he hates are the hands on Shigaraki's costume. See: everyones arms and hands getting wrecked and otherwise mangled. Almost all of Deku's existence until recently was all about loving up his arms and hands. Horikoshi has hand issues
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Aug 18, 2019 01:14
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It's a metaphor for overworked mangakas everywhere
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Aug 18, 2019 01:19
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The Last Saiyuki's last chapter was pretty much what you'd expect of a cancelled series.  I did like the designs in the end though. Why did Chainsawman ignore Power and Denji in his introductions? Edit: Huh, it feels like We Never Learn is nearing an ending. But I can't imagine it ending already. Darth TNT fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Aug 19, 2019 |
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Aug 19, 2019 10:47
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the old guy in chainsawman was breaking down the other devils in case they went rogue and had to be killed later. no need to do that with denji and power, because if they step out of line he’ll snuff them himself
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Man I'm sad The Last Saiyuki ended. I mean the writing was on the wall for a while now. But man this really felt like a dagger through the heart. Look here assholes! This is what we could have had! But no! Gotta push that generic trash that is Samurai 8 some more. At least it ended on a good note and didn't rush to an incomplete ending. I prefer cancelled series to end on a note of "And they had lots of adventures afterwards"
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Darth TNT posted:Edit: Huh, it feels like We Never Learn is nearing an ending. But I can't imagine it ending already. WNL has always had a relatively short shelf life, since it started in everyone's third year. If Tsutsui had intended for it to be Nisekoi-level interminable, they would have started as first-years. Plus, you never know! Maybe everybody bombs their tests and get held back a year!
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Sequel series where Nariyuki's a teacher, Sensei is now the principal and they have to hide their secret forbidden love.
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Aug 19, 2019 15:08
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They could easily drag it out for at least a few more years by slowing time a bit. But at the same time, I kinda like the idea of a romcom series ending on it's own terms and not just frustratingly continues while keeping the status quo.
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Speaking of We Never Learn, is it on break or has the usual group dropped it? I haven't seen new chapters in a couple weeks.
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Aug 19, 2019 16:26
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Just read it free and legit. https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/updates
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Aug 19, 2019 16:28
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I was unaware, thanks for that.
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Mulderman posted:They could easily drag it out for at least a few more years by slowing time a bit. This I agree with very much. I prefer things to end when they should and We never learn having had clear progression is what helps it being good. But with its popularity I assumed that they would drag it out some more, so I'm intrigued to see where this is going.  I take no one here has heard anything about it ending?
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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-08-20/daisuke-moriyama-mourning-bride-manga-cancelled/.150149 I dunno if anyone was following this manga in here but what the gently caress happened
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i dont know thart series but it sounds like the author was probably being a prima donna, same reason gash bell author doesnt get work any more ( though animal land sucked, i was enjoying vector ball untill it got canned)
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