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Why can't you get parts? An old American press is going to be far far better than the Grizzly. What's it need? Bearings are available for the motor for sure, and the quill bearings are likely available as NOS. Anything else? http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/PM%201150A%20VS%20bearings%20and%20Spindle.ashx Rebuild instructions... Doesn't look complicated. sharkytm fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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sharkytm posted:Why can't you get parts? An old American press is going to be far far better than the Grizzly. I need a drill press in the meantime anyway, and having two would have the advantage down the road of being able to leave one set up for certain things. The powermatic also only a 15” swing and that has been frustrating at times.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I need a new drill press because my old powermatic 1150 was much abused in a past life and vibrates like hell and needs rebuilding and I can’t get parts for it and it has bad ergonomics anyway. That may have been me; I had some issues during initial setup which were at least in part my fault. The press ships with the belt at near-max tension, and I had trouble de-tensioning it, in part because I switched the wheels around in a stupid order. I haven't had any issues with it since then, though I'm not a super-heavy user.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Thanks, that’s actually very helpful. My plan is indeed to rebuild it, but I know that’s going to be a slow process for me. I got it basically for free, and put it right to work and haven’t been able to really dig into what it needs. I tried getting a new belt for it (it’s some odd belt) and got nowhere with the current powermatic people or the people that bought all the new old parts stock, I figured parts generally might be hard to come by but didn’t dig that deep. It runs very loud and vibrates a lot-probably a spindle bearing problem?- and I’m not sure the motor shaft/sheave pulleys aren’t a little bent or otherwise wonky as well. Motor itself seems to be fairly new-good American 3/4hp Baldor. Put a link belt on it. It'll be quieter. If you have the variable speed model, the belt is available but expensive. How bad is the old belt? Are you sure that the bolts holding the pulleys in place are tight? Like I said, nothing under a grand is going to be as nice as your powermatic unless it's really beaten up. They were built to last, relatively easy to repair, and have good parts availability. Don't talk to their modern overlords, talk to the old tool junkies. Post some pictures and video, and I'll bet people will be able to walk you through the repairs.
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sharkytm posted:Put a link belt on it. It'll be quieter. If you have the variable speed model, the belt is available but expensive. How bad is the old belt? Are you sure that the bolts holding the pulleys in place are tight? Like I said, nothing under a grand is going to be as nice as your powermatic unless it's really beaten up. They were built to last, relatively easy to repair, and have good parts availability. Don't talk to their modern overlords, talk to the old tool junkies. Post some pictures and video, and I'll bet people will be able to walk you through the repairs. E: I got very sad when I realized every single company is selling the same drill press made in China. You can't even find one made in Taiwan anymore! TooMuchAbstraction posted:That may have been me; I had some issues during initial setup which were at least in part my fault. The press ships with the belt at near-max tension, and I had trouble de-tensioning it, in part because I switched the wheels around in a stupid order. I haven't had any issues with it since then, though I'm not a super-heavy user.
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Picked up an ancient DeWalt/Black & Decker radial arm saw for $20 from am old timer making space in his garage. The power cord had to be replaced to make it spin up, but I like it and look forward to doing what I can to restore it. I really like how much more versatile the RAS seems to be than a table saw or miter saw. And I'm not certain but I think I might be able to turn it into an overhead router and a drum sander. Hard to figure out exactly which model I have though, so that part might be tricky. So far I'm really into the tools with the most versatility. I think I'll be making the plunge on one of these cheap Shop Smiths I see on Craigslist for $300, particularly since I still need all the things it can do, and just sell my shiny, new, but useless sliding compound miter saw.
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Organic Lube User posted:Picked up an ancient DeWalt/Black & Decker radial arm saw for $20 from am old timer making space in his garage. The power cord had to be replaced to make it spin up, but I like it and look forward to doing what I can to restore it. I really like how much more versatile the RAS seems to be than a table saw or miter saw. And I'm not certain but I think I might be able to turn it into an overhead router and a drum sander. Hard to figure out exactly which model I have though, so that part might be tricky. I don't think the motor is fast enough to be a good router, but good luck on that. Sanding wheels, cutoff wheels, yeah, you can rip like a table saw, cut like a compound miter saw with this, the most dangerous of shop tools and that's no lie.
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Its just so lovely and scary to use though Edit God damnit the old man beat me
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Mr. Mambold posted:I don't think the motor is fast enough to be a good router, but good luck on that. Sanding wheels, cutoff wheels, yeah, you can rip like a table saw, cut like a compound miter saw with this, the most dangerous of shop tools and that's no lie. I've watched a few videos about the safety concerns, and it seems that as long as you cut at a slow even pace, climbing is much less of a possibility. And of course, keep all body parts out of line of fire of both the saw and workpieces. This is just what's gonna get me through to when I can afford/find a deal on a good contractor or cabinet table saw.
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Don't buy a shop Smith, everyone I know who has used one said it's not as good as a dedicated and takes a bit to change between tools. Jack of all trades, something something.
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Organic Lube User posted:Picked up an ancient DeWalt/Black & Decker radial arm saw for $20 from am old timer making space in his garage. The power cord had to be replaced to make it spin up, but I like it and look forward to doing what I can to restore it. I really like how much more versatile the RAS seems to be than a table saw or miter saw. And I'm not certain but I think I might be able to turn it into an overhead router and a drum sander. Hard to figure out exactly which model I have though, so that part might be tricky. Radial arm saws make pretty decent crosscut saws when used with appropriate caution. When you try and use them for ANYTHING ELSE they become ravenous finger eating kickback monsters. ‘Watched a few videos on the safety concerns’ and avoiding climb cutting is a good start for using it as a cutoff saw, but please please don’t try and rip anything with it until you are very aware of the risks (no riving knife, still basically climb cutting then ripping, bad fence etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc) or better yet just never rip anything with it at all because it is bad at it and will try and eat you!
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My dad cut off two of his fingers with his RAS, dangerous tool indeed.
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I luckily used a radial arm tile saw first so when it ran over my dominate hands thumb it just kinda gave it a light burn instead of taking the whole thing off!
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Any reccomendations on a first router? I can see myself using it for mortises so plunge sounds appealing, but if there's a solid cheap fixed base option I'm all ears too.
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Bob Mundon posted:Any reccomendations on a first router? I can see myself using it for mortises so plunge sounds appealing, but if there's a solid cheap fixed base option I'm all ears too. I'm seeing all kinds of good, cheap plunge routers on ebay. I picked up a Hitachi with both bases, variable speed, case and a few bits last year for 40 bucks because I couldn't say no.
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Midwestern tool goons: what's the verdict on Menards? One just opened about a half hour from me so I stopped in yesterday when my kid had a game in the vicinity. Its huge and has tons of stuff, but I'm a little turned off that a ton of it is brands I've never seen, and they lack in a lot of the brand name home store staples (like dewalt and Milwaukee, but I did see a good bit of Hitachi). Even their nails and screws were a brand ive never heard of. Are they selling the same chinese stuff as everyone else in a different package? Are they an off-brand on the Spectrum with Harbor Freight? What's their deal?
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stealie72 posted:Midwestern tool goons: what's the verdict on Menards? One just opened about a half hour from me so I stopped in yesterday when my kid had a game in the vicinity. Its huge and has tons of stuff, but I'm a little turned off that a ton of it is brands I've never seen, and they lack in a lot of the brand name home store staples (like dewalt and Milwaukee, but I did see a good bit of Hitachi). Even their nails and screws were a brand ive never heard of. Iowa goon here. Menard’s is freakin’ great for raw materials. Tools are fine if they are not complex machines or power tools, indistinguishable from most other sources. Complex machines or power tools can be fine? But research what you’re buying first in that case. I would place them somewhere between harbor freight and lowes/Home Depot for that stuff, maybe more on the HF side of that spread.
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FWIW, I never buy any sort of construction/deck screw from Menards anymore. I've had way too many of them snap the heads off when driving them with an impact driver, which I've never had happen with whatever brand I buy from Lowes/Home Depot. Otherwise, their hand tools seem perfectly acceptable, materials are good, and they've usually got the best selection of plumbing/electrical supplies around as well. Their tool chests seem to be a step above HF, and a couple steps up from Husky/Kobalt/Craftsman. I tend to pick up random sockets/wrenches from Menards for work, because I know they'll more than likely be lost/"borrowed" before too long, and work pays for them anyway. They seem fine for that, again better than the Husky stuff we've picked up on occasion, at least equal to Kobalt/new Craftsman from Lowes.
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stealie72 posted:Midwestern tool goons: what's the verdict on Menards? One just opened about a half hour from me so I stopped in yesterday when my kid had a game in the vicinity. Its huge and has tons of stuff, but I'm a little turned off that a ton of it is brands I've never seen, and they lack in a lot of the brand name home store staples (like dewalt and Milwaukee, but I did see a good bit of Hitachi). Even their nails and screws were a brand ive never heard of.
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Slugworth posted:Lumber is way cheaper than Home Depot, similar quality. This is very much not a glowing endorsement. I got so tired of sorting through a pile of tubafers that I've stopped even bothering and just go to the real lumberyard and pay more for non-reject lumber.
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Okay, I'm glad you are reporting the place also has a unique vibe because I definitely was very confused walking around. Especially once I hit the few aisles of groceries.
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Motronic posted:This is very much not a glowing endorsement.
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I dont mind it depending on what I'm using it for. Crown em all the same way framing, ain't no thang
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Slugworth posted:Lumber is way cheaper than Home Depot, similar quality. Tools are mainly garbage. Layout is..... labyrinthine. Some have an actual live pianist on the weekend, which is wildly unnecessary. All in all, Menards is just weird as poo poo, but will usually have whatever you weren't able to find at Home Depot. There's one real close to me that does the live pianist thing, right at the top of their cart escalator. Last time I was there, some dude was banging out video game music on it.
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Almost forgot, I hit up a few garage sales this weekend and picked up some new toys.  An ooooooold #78, Record #4, Miller falls bullnose plane, disston D8, couple odds and ends.
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:I dont mind it depending on what I'm using it for. Crown em all the same way framing, ain't no thang Crown is expected. Dog legs and knots so bad they are falling out are what I seem to find. Always on top, because someone else has been sorting the pile. My local lumber yard is also closer than the closest LowesDepot, so that helps with my decision.
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PitViper posted:FWIW, I never buy any sort of construction/deck screw from Menards anymore. I've had way too many of them snap the heads off when driving them with an impact driver, which I've never had happen with whatever brand I buy from Lowes/Home Depot. Slugworth posted:Lumber is way cheaper than Home Depot, similar quality. Tools are mainly garbage. Layout is..... labyrinthine. Some have an actual live pianist on the weekend, which is wildly unnecessary. All in all, Menards is just weird as poo poo, but will usually have whatever you weren't able to find at Home Depot. Slugworth posted:Layout is..... labyrinthine.
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Just in case anyone didn't know: Live near both a Menards and a Home Depot? You can get HD to honor Menard's 11% sale!
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Any thoughts on this small HF workbench? I've been used my ex's chest freezer as a makeshift work table for the past year and now that that is finally disappearing I'd like to replace it with an actual table. It seems to have good reviews and a great price.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Any thoughts on this small HF workbench? I've been used my ex's chest freezer as a makeshift work table for the past year and now that that is finally disappearing I'd like to replace it with an actual table. It seems to have good reviews and a great price. You should make this one instead
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Any thoughts on this small HF workbench? I've been used my ex's chest freezer as a makeshift work table for the past year and now that that is finally disappearing I'd like to replace it with an actual table. It seems to have good reviews and a great price. lovely mdf top and thin steel legs. Floor model wobbles when I poke it. Not sure your intended use for the bench but if you have a circular saw and a drill you can make a solid bench out of 2x4s, 3/4" plywood, and some 3" screws.
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Is the WEN 4208 really that bad as a first drill press? It's on Amazon for $81 right now and I've got about $55 in reward points dropping this month, not worth bothering with for $26 actual dollars? WEN 4208 8 in. 5-Speed Drill Press https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HQONFVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IrrEDb44SE1BR Bob Mundon fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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I bought that one for my brother as a Christmas gift 2 years ago. I know he's used it to drill walnut and aluminum and he never complained to me (which doesn't mean much since it was a gift). He hasn't bought a replacement, though, so it must be fairly good.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Any thoughts on this small HF workbench? I've been used my ex's chest freezer as a makeshift work table for the past year and now that that is finally disappearing I'd like to replace it with an actual table. It seems to have good reviews and a great price. assuming you have access to a saw, almost any table you build will be cheaper and better than a table you have to assemble my favorite general workbench design type is to use a 4x4 lagged into the wall as the back support, so you only need legs on the front. OBAMNA PHONE fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Bob Mundon posted:Is the WEN 4208 really that bad as a first drill press? It's on Amazon for $81 right now and I've got abou $55 in reward points dropping this month, not worth bothering with for $26 actual dollars? I got it for forty bucks and at that price I would recommend it, but I have to think there are better options in the vicinity of eighty. Adjusting the table is annoying and the press doesn’t have a great depth capacity, so it’s frequently necessary when changing bits. It’s not the easiest to clamp onto. It had no problem drilling ten-millimetre holes through mild steel, but I did stall it with dull forstner bits in hardwood. The motor gets hot after a few minutes, but I couldn’t smell it so it was probably within acceptable limits.
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BraveUlysses posted:assuming you have access to a saw, almost any table you build will be cheaper and better than a table you have to assemble Are there instructions for a simple table?I'd love to do something like this
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Are there instructions for a simple table?I'd love to do something like this The woodworking thread recommended this table to me a couple years back which I built as a novice and it's been great: https://woodgears.ca/workbench/
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https://woodworkingformeremortals.com/workbench-mere-mortals/ This might be more involved that you were looking for, but the joinery he uses on the legs is the important bit. You could skip all the extra shelving, etc. if you wanted and just focus on the skirt, legs, and bottom shelf supports. Two layers of 3/4" ply on the top is kind of overkill, too, probably 1 layer is good enough unless your bench is >3ft wide.
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tangy yet delightful posted:The woodworking thread recommended this table to me a couple years back which I built as a novice and it's been great: https://woodgears.ca/workbench/ Nevets posted:https://woodworkingformeremortals.com/workbench-mere-mortals/ Wow, both of these are at least possible for me to try to make, thank you!
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Are there instructions for a simple table?I'd love to do something like this i can break it down a bit: BraveUlysses posted:I still think DIY is the better way to go for a cheap workbench you need: 4x4x8 qty 2 2x4x8 qty 2 sheet of plywood Screws Pocket hole jig circular saw lagged the back 4x4x8 to the wall. Cut 2x4 for left, right and center supports (depends on how deep you want the bench) Cut 4x4 for front legs Put a pair of pocket holes in each of the supports. attach supports to the back 4x4 put the legs in position and fasten to side supports attach the remaining 2x4 to the front and throw some plywood on top, trim as needed OBAMNA PHONE fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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